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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Trucks / October 2004

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Toyota Engine Oil Sludge

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Charlene Blake - 19 Oct 2004 04:47 GMT
Toyota's estimate of engine oil sludge complaints was 3,200 in 2002.
Why then does a Toyota spokesperson, John Hanson, say in a recent
article that there are only about the same number of complaints to
date?  What kind of deceit is that?

With over a thousand dealerships nationwide and several cases of
sludge in a months time, how in the world did Toyota come up with that
number?  Even if not all owners are reporting the problem, are we to
believe that Toyota is naive enough not to know better?

Toyota is making the details of its "Customer Support Program for
Engine Oil Gelation" very hard to find even on its own web site.
Toyota is contributing to the shut down of discussion of the matter on
several web sites, including Edmund's Town Hall, which close the
discussion right after it began!

Toyota is taking lots of money from new Toyota owners for extended
warranties and denying the claims when sludge hits.  Does it know this
will happen?  Isn't this fraud?!?  Is any information given out to
prospective buyers who are shopping for a "certified used" Toyota?
Are they told about the CSP  at a bare minimum?  No, they are not.
Are they duped into buying an extended warranty which will turn out to
be bogus for sludge repairs?  Sure, they are.

How long will Toyota go on denying this problem is related to engine
design or component malfunction?  How long will it keep that
"proprietary data" hidden from the Toyota owners and the buying
public?  How long will this company secretly fight those who wish to
speak out about the matter?  How long will it keep up this charade?

Many Toyota owners would like to know the answers to these questions.
Many cannot believe that a company can carry out its business in this
manner and still be expected to be respected in the marketplace.

Toyota Owners Unite for Resolution

http://www.petitiononline.com/TMC2003/petition.html

Charlene Blake
cblake@erols.com
rdel - 20 Oct 2004 00:27 GMT
Here you go again..

> Toyota's estimate of engine oil sludge complaints was 3,200 in 2002.
> Why then does a Toyota spokesperson, John Hanson, say in a recent
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> Charlene Blake
> cblake@erols.com
Pookerz - 20 Oct 2004 01:32 GMT
Hey give her a little credit, she's updated the wording a bit in the last
few years. Still utter nonsense but it's got a fresh new look!

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> Here you go again..
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scott and barb - 26 Oct 2004 02:57 GMT
Gotta warm up that engine!
> Hey give her a little credit, she's updated the wording a bit in the last
> few years. Still utter nonsense but it's got a fresh new look!
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> >> Charlene Blake
> >> cblake@erols.com
 
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