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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Trucks / July 2006

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e@earthlink.net - 25 Jul 2006 22:57 GMT
My understanding is the new tacomas(2004+) are mid size pick-up truck.
and pre 2004 Tacomas are compact pick-up trucks.  Am I correct?  Are the
new Tacomas considered compact as well?  Because to me, the newer(2004+)
Tacomas look a little big to be considered a compact..

Thanks alot in advance.
Butzmark - 25 Jul 2006 23:34 GMT
>My understanding is the new tacomas(2004+) are mid size pick-up truck.
>and pre 2004 Tacomas are compact pick-up trucks.  Am I correct?  Are the
>new Tacomas considered compact as well?  Because to me, the newer(2004+)
>Tacomas look a little big to be considered a compact..
>
>Thanks alot in advance.

The size changed with the '05.
e@earthlink.net - 26 Jul 2006 01:30 GMT
Oh.  sorry.  with corrections:
are 2005+ Tacomas considered mid-sized pick-up trucks or is it still
considered compact pick-up trucks?

Thanks alot in advance.

> >My understanding is the new tacomas(2004+) are mid size pick-up truck.
> >and pre 2004 Tacomas are compact pick-up trucks.  Am I correct?  Are the
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>
> The size changed with the '05.
Mike W - 26 Jul 2006 01:49 GMT
I would call the 2005+ Tacoma a mid size.  When looking around at the
dealers, I saw a Taco right next to an '06 Tundra and they look fairly
close, but of course the Tundra is still larger.   The differences will be
more obvious again with upcoming release of the new full size Tundra.  It
makes you wonder if Toyota may have screwed up by upsizing both pickups with
the recent gas prices.  The two slightly smaller than average trucks may
have been a distinguishing point in their product line which will now be
lost.

> Oh.  sorry.  with corrections:
> are 2005+ Tacomas considered mid-sized pick-up trucks or is it still
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>> The size changed with the '05.
S.Lewis - 26 Jul 2006 02:04 GMT
>I would call the 2005+ Tacoma a mid size.  When looking around at the
>dealers, I saw a Taco right next to an '06 Tundra and they look fairly
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>may have been a distinguishing point in their product line which will now
>be lost.

Yep to that last part. Bigger and bigger still.

Given the time necessary to engineer a new platform, I'm guessing that the
much larger 2005+ Tacomas were probably conceived before the global fuel
scenario was full appreciated.

I feel lucky. I've got an '00 Prerunner (4x2) with the 2.7/4cylinder
powerplant. While I feel like even this truck is so long (nearly 18', close
to a Dodge Grand Caravan), it still manages respectable fuel mileage (wish
there'd been an option for a stick).

Likewise but somewhat OT, I bet Subaru engineers are kicking themselves in
the crotch over the fact that their entire lineup is AWD since around 1995
(?).  Any of those smaller sedans/hatchbacks/wagons would still get good to
excellent mileage as front-wheel only, but now only have modest mileage at
best.

Bottom line: I like the aesthetics of the new Toyota line, but I'm glad I
have one of the "old" compact trucks.
Mike W - 26 Jul 2006 02:45 GMT
I haven't researched the fuel economy numbers for the new Tacoma vs old, but
one dealer told me that the 4 cyl. city/highway is actually 1-2 MPG better
on the '05+ because of the weight shaved due to the composite bed.  I doubt
that will be the case with the new Tundra, especially with the 5.7L engine.
There is suppposed to be 2 or 3 engines in the option list though so we'll
see.

>>I would call the 2005+ Tacoma a mid size.  When looking around at the
>>dealers, I saw a Taco right next to an '06 Tundra and they look fairly
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> Bottom line: I like the aesthetics of the new Toyota line, but I'm glad I
> have one of the "old" compact trucks.
Bob Palmer - 30 Jul 2006 04:53 GMT
>I haven't researched the fuel economy numbers for the new Tacoma vs old,
>but one dealer told me that the 4 cyl. city/highway is actually 1-2 MPG
>better on the '05+ because of the weight shaved due to the composite bed.
>I doubt that will be the case with the new Tundra, especially with the 5.7L
>engine. There is suppposed to be 2 or 3 engines in the option list though
>so we'll see.
I have a 2005 Tacoma regular cab with the 2.7L 4CYL engine. I get between
20-25 MPG depending on the situation. Looking at the smaller 2004 and
earlier with the 2.7L I notice that the MPG is about rated the same. I know
the 2005 is about 250LBS heavier than a comparable earlier model. I am very
pleased with this pickup. It is approaching 2 years and it has given no
trouble. It feels solid and I am impressed with the integrity of the build.
jim menning - 26 Jul 2006 02:01 GMT
> My understanding is the new tacomas(2004+) are mid size pick-up truck.
> and pre 2004 Tacomas are compact pick-up trucks.  Am I correct?  Are the
> new Tacomas considered compact as well?  Because to me, the newer(2004+)
> Tacomas look a little big to be considered a compact..
>
> Thanks alot in advance.

By whose standards?

From the 2006 Consumer Reports cars report, the Tacoma is a "Compact", the Tundra is
a "Full-sized" truck.

The EPA fuel mileage guide makes no distinction between the two.

Insurance companies may have different opinions.

jim menning
Mike Harris - 27 Jul 2006 20:06 GMT
>> My understanding is the new tacomas(2004+) are mid size pick-up truck.
>> and pre 2004 Tacomas are compact pick-up trucks.  Am I correct?  Are the
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> By whose standards?

By JD Power & Associates standards.
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Mike Harris
Austin, TX
jim menning - 27 Jul 2006 20:48 GMT
>>> My understanding is the new tacomas(2004+) are mid size pick-up truck.
>>> and pre 2004 Tacomas are compact pick-up trucks.  Am I correct?  Are the
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> Mike Harris
> Austin, TX

They classify it as a "mid-size".

http://www.jdpower.com/autos/content/reviews/review.asp?id=185

jim menning
B A R R Y - 27 Jul 2006 16:23 GMT
> My understanding is the new tacomas(2004+) are mid size pick-up truck.

That's 2005+.
e@earthlink.net - 27 Jul 2006 19:53 GMT
Yes I made a mistake.  I meant 2005+

> > My understanding is the new tacomas(2004+) are mid size pick-up truck.
>
> That's 2005+.
 
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