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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Trucks / September 2006

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22re Head Interchangability: a cautionary tale

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David Floyd - 18 Sep 2006 01:24 GMT
Just a bit of info learned the hard way.
I have a 93 pickup 22re, which was replaced due to terminal body cancer
by a 92 pickup with the same 22re.
Looking ahead, I held onto the 93 as an organ donor.
So...
I thought a had a head gasket issue.  Pulled the head to find a burned
exhaust valve on the #3.
So, thinking that my foresight finally paid off and I could swap heads
until I could have the one with the burned valve revived, I went to
work.
All went well until I tried to install the head off the parts truck.
No dice.  Very very similar, but would not slide over the locating
pins.  Different distance between them (off by maybe 1/16).  On closer
inspections exhaust ports were a different shape too.  Found later that
the timing chain guides are a different design as well (92 had shorter
reach on bolts).  Noticed at least one different casting mark as
well-one marked "7," the other "17" on side of head.
So...
Was there a change in head design between 92&93 or am I looking at
something more fishy, i.e. maybe the 92 had the motor swapped before I
bought it?
Wasted a weekend on this.

One more thing...
Bought a new timing kit on ebay from engnbldr.com.  While I understand
the new chain should be tight, I found it to be WAY TIGHT, and one link
shorter than the one I removed.  i do not have all week to work on this
so I used the new sprokets with the old chain. It fits, but when
aligned properly there is more slack than I expected on the driver's
side (the side without the tensioner).  With the guides and tensioner
installed there is no danger of it jumping a tooth, but I expected it
to be tighter.  Any experiences would be helpful before I put the cover
back on tomorrow.
Mike K - 18 Sep 2006 03:25 GMT
I had a similar problem with a 87 pickup, found out the engine was a 84.
early 22re motors have a taller deck. the change in deck was in the mid 80's
the timing chains were a different length and the chain guides were
different
to me it seems like the 92 had an early 80's motor or toyota made another
change in the 90's
Mike
> Just a bit of info learned the hard way.
> I have a 93 pickup 22re, which was replaced due to terminal body cancer
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> to be tighter.  Any experiences would be helpful before I put the cover
> back on tomorrow.
sidneybek@yahoo.com - 25 Sep 2006 01:59 GMT
In North America the 22R & 22R-E s are used in the following:

22R
1981-82 Toyota Corona
1981-83 Celica
1981-87 Toyota pickup (up to 1990 on 2wd)
1984-87 Toyota 4-Runner

22R-E  (22REC=California emissions=extra charcoal canister)
1983-85 Celica
1985-95 Toyota pickup
1985-95 Toyota 4-Runner

22RTE (Turbo EFI)
1985-87 Toyota 4-Runner
1985-87 Toyota pickup

22R Series tech data:

http://www.babcox.com/editorial/ar/ar119838.htm
http://www.babcox.com/editorial/ar/ar400108.htm
http://www.toyotaperformance.com/4_cyl_tech.htm
http://www.lcengineering.com/TechNotes/TechNote48.htm
http://www.toysport.com/Technical%20Information/22r_tech_notes.htm
http://www.off-road.com/toyota/tech/other/toy_motor.html
http://www.off-road.com/toyota/tech/other/4_dts.html
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/faq/parts
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/9975/dataBySubject/Engine.html
http://www.toyota-mods.org/engines.txt
http://www.toyotagtturbo.com/engines2.html
http://www.engnbldr.com/ToyotaHotlicks.htm
http://www.bitwalla.com/cruisers/info/engines.html
http://www.off-road.com/tlc/faq/engine.html
http://www.jnc.farpost.com/toytech.html
http://lcengineering.com/TechNotes.htm
http://www.buschtaxi.net/de/01info/motoren.html
http://www.landcruiser.hu/motorok.html
http://www.toysport.com/Technical%20Information/Transmissions.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_transmissions

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1985 Toyota 4-Runner,solid front straight axle,factory cruise
control,sunroof,22R-E,W56,RN60LV-MSEK,rusted rear step/towing chrome
bumper with 251 000 KM
 
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