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Yard of gravel in a Tundra?
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Jeff - 21 Nov 2006 19:33 GMT Any reason my '06 Access Cab couldn't take a whole yard of gravel? Don't want to break a shock or anything... standard suspension, V8, LS rear differential, BFG AT's.
Quick answers appreciated!
-jeff
B A R R Y - 21 Nov 2006 19:53 GMT > Any reason my '06 Access Cab couldn't take a whole yard of gravel? > Don't want to break a shock or anything... standard suspension, V8, LS > rear differential, BFG AT's. A yard of gravel weighs ~ 2800 pounds. Add driver,passenger, and fuel weight (gas weighs ~ 6 lbs./gal), look up the total payload listed in your manual, and decide for yourself.
BTW, shocks don't hold the truck up.
Jeff - 22 Nov 2006 02:12 GMT Thanks you guys. I hooked up my trailer and did a half-yard in the trailer and another half in the truck. Worked out fine. I need to do it again tomorrow... nothing like flat land in Oregon...
Should I admit that I hauled many a WHOLE yard in my ol' faithful '86 Nissan 4-banger before she finally gave up the ghost at almost 200K? (Blown head gasket, wife kept driving) Anyway, I'm trying to be gentler to this truck, since it's sort of a gentleman's truck anyway...
-jeff
> > Any reason my '06 Access Cab couldn't take a whole yard of gravel? > > Don't want to break a shock or anything... standard suspension, V8, LS [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > BTW, shocks don't hold the truck up. Mike Harris - 22 Nov 2006 02:32 GMT 'scuse the top post, folks.
The most I've hauled in my 95 Tacoma was a 2,200 lb "Little Giant" power hammer. I'd found out only after the fact how heavy the doggone thing was.
I managed this with no permanent damage - but as a general rule I can't recommend exceeding the GVWR by a factor of three in practice. It's not so much what suspension components might break, as difficulty in stopping, instability in curves which could lead to roll overs, tire blow outs and etc.
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> Thanks you guys. I hooked up my trailer and did a half-yard in the > trailer and another half in the truck. Worked out fine. I need to do [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> >> BTW, shocks don't hold the truck up. SnoMan - 22 Nov 2006 14:45 GMT >The most I've hauled in my 95 Tacoma was a 2,200 lb "Little Giant" power >hammer. I'd found out only after the fact how heavy the doggone thing >was. I saw my father inlaw haul 7000 lbs of gravel twice in a stock 3/4 ton jeep P/U in the early 80's for lane repair on his farm. Hauled it 20 miles too. (I would have never tried it) It did not hurt it because I still have truck today and it is still striaght. The orignal poster was wise to split load between truck and trailer as it is better to be safe than sorry. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com
Jeff - 22 Nov 2006 06:17 GMT > > Any reason my '06 Access Cab couldn't take a whole yard of gravel? > > Don't want to break a shock or anything... standard suspension, V8, LS [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > weight (gas weighs ~ 6 lbs./gal), look up the total payload listed in > your manual, and decide for yourself. As an update, the cargo capacity for a Tundra is a little over 2000 lbs...
Thanks for the help, guys!
-jeff
B A R R Y - 22 Nov 2006 13:09 GMT > As an update, the cargo capacity for a Tundra is a little over 2000 > lbs... Including you, passengers, fuel and aftermarket accessories, like caps and bedliners, not just what's in the bed. <G>
I've overloaded the crap out of trucks, but luckily never had to make a panic stop or maneuver. When I was young and stupid, I towed a 300ZX on a tandem trailer, with a four banger 4x2 Toyota "Pickup", using the bumper hitch. The trailer would push the truck right through stop signs, if I didn't plan far enough ahead!
Jeff Strickland - 22 Nov 2006 20:17 GMT I was in traffic court yesterday (11/21), and one of the people in front of the judge before me was a kid that slid through a stop sign while pulling a trailer. I sh.t you not, this guy wanted to use his boat and trailer as defense for his stop sign violation.
The judge was not moved.
>> As an update, the cargo capacity for a Tundra is a little over 2000 >> lbs... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > hitch. The trailer would push the truck right through stop signs, if I > didn't plan far enough ahead! Bonehenge - 22 Nov 2006 21:52 GMT >I was in traffic court yesterday (11/21), and one of the people in front of >the judge before me was a kid that slid through a stop sign while pulling a >trailer. I sh.t you not, this guy wanted to use his boat and trailer as >defense for his stop sign violation. > >The judge was not moved. But the truck was! Just like mine! <G>
Jeff Strickland - 22 Nov 2006 20:11 GMT YARD is a measure of volume, the limitation on your Tundra is WEIGHT. Surely a yard of gravel weighs far too much for your Tundra.
> Any reason my '06 Access Cab couldn't take a whole yard of gravel? > Don't want to break a shock or anything... standard suspension, V8, LS [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > -jeff Jeff - 23 Nov 2006 05:57 GMT > YARD is a measure of volume, the limitation on your Tundra is WEIGHT. Surely > a yard of gravel weighs far too much for your Tundra. Yeah, 27 cubic feet.
A tundra hauls 1/2 yard nicely; a little low in the back but that's to be expected with over 1000 lbs back there! I don't think I'd do a yard. In fact, as much of a pain as it is to get it OUT of the Tundra compared to my utility trailer I may just get 1/2 yard at a time.
The grooves in the bed, like any truck has, make it a real pain to get it all out and the cleanup is a pain. I suppose a guy could make a plywood bottom for the bed that had cutouts for the wheelwells... still a pain.
I never used to bother to clean the bed on my old Nissan beater, and the small gravel and dust eventually forms a concrete-like substance that is almost impossible to get out of the grooves.
-jeff
Jeff Strickland - 23 Nov 2006 16:31 GMT >> YARD is a measure of volume, the limitation on your Tundra is WEIGHT. >> Surely >> a yard of gravel weighs far too much for your Tundra. > > Yeah, 27 cubic feet. Well, what weighs more, a yard of gravel or a yard of feathers?
Weight is the determining factor when hauling heavy stuff, volume is the measurement for light stuff. As a practical matter, I can't think of anything that would exceed the half-yard limitation and not exceed the weight limitation. but, it is easy to find stuff that exceeds the weight limits and doesn't come close to stretching the volume limits.
Get a trailer with good brakes and haul your gravel.
bearman - 23 Nov 2006 18:16 GMT >> YARD is a measure of volume, the limitation on your Tundra is WEIGHT. >> Surely [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > -jeff I use a tarp on the bottom of the bed..
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Jeff - 23 Nov 2006 23:53 GMT > >> YARD is a measure of volume, the limitation on your Tundra is WEIGHT. > >> Surely [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > -- > Bearman Hmmm.... would wreck the tarp but it might be worth it... tarps are cheap and I have a couple old ones anyway...
-jeff
Noon-Air - 23 Nov 2006 16:42 GMT YARD is where I park my Tundra, WEIGHT is how much I haul....The most I have ever burdened my Tundra with is a pallet of refrigerant.... 40 cans to a pallet each can is approximately 38 lbs, plus the weight of the pallet itself. Thats around 1600 lbs. I have no desire to put any more weight that that in *MY* Tundra, but you can do what you want with yours.
> YARD is a measure of volume, the limitation on your Tundra is WEIGHT. > Surely a yard of gravel weighs far too much for your Tundra. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> >> -jeff Ralph Mowery - 24 Nov 2006 02:23 GMT > YARD is a measure of volume, the limitation on your Tundra is WEIGHT. > Surely a yard of gravel weighs far too much for your Tundra. While yards are volume, some things are sold by the yard . You need to know how much a yard of material weighs. If you think of a yard of cement weighs about 4000 lb, then a yard of most anything else will weigh less. Wood is often sold by the board foot. I doubt that anyone would ask for 100 lb of wood.
Jeff Strickland - 24 Nov 2006 02:37 GMT >> YARD is a measure of volume, the limitation on your Tundra is WEIGHT. >> Surely a yard of gravel weighs far too much for your Tundra. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Wood is often sold by the board foot. I doubt that anyone would ask for > 100 lb of wood. You are telling me -- who already said that volume and weight are not related -- that one must know the weight of the load one wishes to carry.
It is not important how stuff is sold when wanting to figure out if it fits in the truck. It matters how much it weighs if it is heavy, and how big it is if it is light. Two yards of feathers might fit the weight limit, but is surely too large to fit in the truck.
Noon-Air - 24 Nov 2006 02:57 GMT >>> YARD is a measure of volume, the limitation on your Tundra is WEIGHT. >>> Surely a yard of gravel weighs far too much for your Tundra. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > big it is if it is light. Two yards of feathers might fit the weight > limit, but is surely too large to fit in the truck. and a couple of yards of beer make for several pit stops
Jeff Strickland - 24 Nov 2006 03:54 GMT >>>> YARD is a measure of volume, the limitation on your Tundra is WEIGHT. >>>> Surely a yard of gravel weighs far too much for your Tundra. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> limit, but is surely too large to fit in the truck. > and a couple of yards of beer make for several pit stops I've been known to leave beer in the yard, if you know what I mean, but I've not seen "yards of beer." I measure my beer by the 36-pack, so leaving a sixer or two in the yard is not uncommon.
Peter Bogiatzidis - 24 Nov 2006 06:57 GMT Take a look at the following link:
http://www.answers.com/topic/yard-of-ale
Peter.
>>>>> YARD is a measure of volume, the limitation on your Tundra is WEIGHT. >>>>> Surely a yard of gravel weighs far too much for your Tundra. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > I've not seen "yards of beer." I measure my beer by the 36-pack, so > leaving a sixer or two in the yard is not uncommon. Jeff Strickland - 24 Nov 2006 15:09 GMT > Take a look at the following link: > > http://www.answers.com/topic/yard-of-ale > > Peter. I've seen that before. It should fit in a Tundra without too much trouble ;-)
TOM - 24 Nov 2006 15:44 GMT >>>>> YARD is a measure of volume, the limitation on your Tundra is >>>>> WEIGHT. Surely a yard of gravel weighs far too much for your Tundra. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > I've not seen "yards of beer." I measure my beer by the 36-pack, so > leaving a sixer or two in the yard is not uncommon. I was about to comment that this thread had turned into the usual pi**ing contest, but now I don't have to... :>))
 Signature Tom - Vista, CA
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