I've got a 198x toyota (something from the 80's) that I just droped a
new engine into. I'm having problems with the charging circuit on.
It will charge to 11.71 volts while running and if put under load
(like turning on lights or wipers) it will drop off. I have a new
alternator, new voltage regulator, and new battery. I am assuming
that it must be a wiring problem of some sort as I figure the
alternator is not getting triggered when it is supposed to be.
The engine is from a 1983, and the truck is mostly a 1980
Thanks Stephen
Scotty - 16 Aug 2007 08:45 GMT
> I've got a 198x toyota (something from the 80's) that I just droped a
> new engine into. I'm having problems with the charging circuit on.
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>
> Thanks Stephen
How long is the piece of string?
I see that you must have a Multimeter but time to invest in a visit to the
auto sparky I think.
Hmm does it have a good earth from engine to Chassis? Start/crank okay?
Mike - 16 Aug 2007 15:17 GMT
> I've got a 198x toyota (something from the 80's) that I just droped a
> new engine into. I'm having problems with the charging circuit on.
> It will charge to 11.71 volts while running and if put under load
> (like turning on lights or wipers) it will drop off.
Your alternater is NOT charging. Your voltage reading of 11.7 volts
indicates your battery is discharging. A fully charged battery will read
around 12.6 volts.
I have a new
> alternator, new voltage regulator, and new battery. I am assuming
> that it must be a wiring problem of some sort as I figure the
> alternator is not getting triggered when it is supposed to be.
You need a wiring diagram for your year truck and a multimeter. Check all
the charging system wires for continuity and proper voltage.
> The engine is from a 1983, and the truck is mostly a 1980
>
> Thanks Stephen
OldPhart - 16 Aug 2007 15:21 GMT
| I've got a 198x toyota (something from the 80's) that I just droped a
| new engine into. I'm having problems with the charging circuit on.
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|
| Thanks Stephen
First of all, 11.71 volts is not charging at all. A charged 12 vdc
battery should be over 12.6 vdc without the alternator on. with the
engine running the voltage should read anywhere from 13 to 14.5 vdc,
depending on the state of the battery. I would put the battery on a good
charger and get it fully charged. I.E., 13.2 vdc or so fresh off of the
charger. Then see if the alternator is working or not.
I had an '87 that did not charge right when I bought it. We found out
later that there was two different alternators for that year and the
previous owner had put in the wrong one. Both had internal regulators.

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Jeff Strickland - 16 Aug 2007 19:13 GMT
The only thing I can think of is Grounding.
You need to make sure you have ground straps from the battery to the engine
and the body. The alternator is mounted to the engine, so it should ground
to the block, but the block has to be grounded to the battery. It is
possible tyo have too many ground points, but it is far easier to have too
few. Lack of proper grounding creates what is effectively an open loop that
is very unstable. Obvioulsy, the engine will ev entually be grounded through
the various casings and other components, but this ground is very poor even
on a good day. What you really need is a heavy guage wire from the battery
to the engine, and another from the engine to the body. Some will say that a
ground from both the engine and body to the frame is also a good strategy
because there are body mounted components that are physically grounded to
the frame.
Since you just replaced the motor, I have to wonder if the ground straps
were attached. If you have to attach ground straps, I suggest stranded
10-guage wire (as opposed to solid wire). You can go as heavy as you want,
and I recall the battery cables are something like 4-guage -- where lower
guage numbers equate to heavier weight wire. Heavier is better, and good
connections are a must. Clean metal is far better than painted surfaces.
One other thing I can think of is a defective alternator. You can remove
this component easily enough, and they will test it at the auto parts store
for free.
> I've got a 198x toyota (something from the 80's) that I just droped a
> new engine into. I'm having problems with the charging circuit on.
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>
> Thanks Stephen
Ernie Leimkuhler - 17 Aug 2007 03:31 GMT
> I've got a 198x toyota (something from the 80's) that I just droped a
> new engine into. I'm having problems with the charging circuit on.
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>
> Thanks Stephen
I had the same problem with my '85 truck.
Turns out I got a bad rebuilt alternator.
The second one worked fine.
Take the "new" alternator back to where you got it and have them test it.
Toshi38@gmail.com - 17 Aug 2007 08:19 GMT
On Aug 16, 7:31 pm, Ernie Leimkuhler <stagesm...@mindspring.com>
wrote:
> In article <1187249615.041688.66...@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
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> The second one worked fine.
> Take the "new" alternator back to where you got it and have them test it.
ya I already got a new alternator to replace the first new alternator
with no difference (never had it tested although i think i might take
it by wally world cuz i hear they test them) (I have a good multi
meter (fluke 289)) and will attempt to follow through the wiring
diagram. I think the ground to the battery might help so i'll try and
rig one of those up on tomaro or saturday depending when I have time
off work.
Thanks for all the quick reply's guys
Toshi38@gmail.com - 22 Aug 2007 02:02 GMT
On Aug 17, 12:19 am, "Tosh...@gmail.com" <Tosh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 16, 7:31 pm, Ernie Leimkuhler <stagesm...@mindspring.com>
> wrote:
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> Thanks for all the quick reply's guys
well i have added another ground strap from battery to engine mount,
and i've replaced the voltage regulator. I knoticed that the charge
lamp relay is non-existant could this have anything to do with it?
Andersen@Scott.US - 22 Aug 2007 03:13 GMT
On Aug 21, 6:02 pm, "Tosh...@gmail.com" <Tosh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 17, 12:19 am, "Tosh...@gmail.com" <Tosh...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> and i've replaced the voltage regulator. I knoticed that the charge
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I have the same problem. Did you find anything? I have tried all these
too. I havent tried the other altenator though. I do have an adaptor
fotr it.
Let me know when you solve the problem.
Thanks,
Scott
Andersen@Scott.US - 26 Aug 2007 01:48 GMT
On Aug 21, 7:13 pm, Ander...@Scott.US wrote:
> On Aug 21, 6:02 pm, "Tosh...@gmail.com" <Tosh...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Hi,
I found my problem,
Email me for more detailed info.
I was using the wrong alternator with two wires crosed.
Andersen@Scott.US
Scott