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Illegal Immigrant wants to "fix the broken law"
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Jeff Strickland - 21 Aug 2007 01:16 GMT She has been arrested and they (the government) has deported her back to Mexico. Her issue is that her son is an American citizen. The broken law is that her son is an American just because she managed to get here before she delivered. The son should be of the same citizenship as the mother. Period.
If the mother was a LEGAL immigrant, then her child(ren) should automatically be American citizens upon birth, but if the mother is an illegal immigrant then the child(ren) should be citizens of wherever themother is from, not citizens of America.
This case has been smoldering for 10 years. 10 years. She was captured and deported, then she came back and used a forged SSN, and gave birth, AFTER she lost a deportation hearing but remained here anyway. Now, she has the balls to suggest that the government is to blame for ripping her son from her arms, but5 her choice TODAY was to return to Mexico alone or with her child. She elected to leave her child behind.
The broken law is the one that gives a mother the choice. The law should be fixed, and the fix is to NOT grant automatic citizenship to a baby that has the good fortune to be born before his mother gets caught. Then, when the mother is ultimately caught, the baby goes where the mother goes.
Jeff Strickland - 21 Aug 2007 01:22 GMT > She has been arrested and they (the government) has deported her back to > Mexico. Her issue is that her son is an American citizen. The broken law [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > has the good fortune to be born before his mother gets caught. Then, when > the mother is ultimately caught, the baby goes where the mother goes. Fuller Rath - 21 Aug 2007 01:56 GMT sh.t what we need is to send all the illegal white immigrants that stole Amerika from the Natives back to Europe. That would solve a lot of problems...
: > She has been arrested and they (the government) has deported her back to : > Mexico. Her issue is that her son is an American citizen. The broken law [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] : > has the good fortune to be born before his mother gets caught. Then, when : > the mother is ultimately caught, the baby goes where the mother goes. Sir F. A. Rien - 21 Aug 2007 02:24 GMT "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> found these unused words:
>> She has been arrested and they (the government) has deported her back to >> Mexico. Her issue is that her son is an American citizen. The broken law [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> has the good fortune to be born before his mother gets caught. Then, when >> the mother is ultimately caught, the baby goes where the mother goes. Other than saying you might have a point, it has -=nothing=- to do with Toyotya Trucks ... !!!
Jeff Strickland - 21 Aug 2007 03:20 GMT > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> found these unused words: > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > Other than saying you might have a point, it has -=nothing=- to do with > Toyotya Trucks ... !!! Point well taken.
I also post to alt.autos.toyota, where these sorts of political topics come up frequently. I posted my diatribe to the wrong group, twice.
President Hillary - 21 Aug 2007 03:52 GMT > Other than saying you might have a point, it has -=nothing=- to do with > Toyotya Trucks ... !!! Since this is *not* a moderated forum, how do you propose to stop anyone who wants to post anything about anything, on OR off topic ???????????
Leythos - 21 Aug 2007 04:10 GMT > > Other than saying you might have a point, it has -=nothing=- to do with > > Toyotya Trucks ... !!! > > Since this is *not* a moderated forum, how do you propose to > stop anyone who wants to post anything about anything, on OR > off topic ??????????? Complaints to many ISP's will get the users reprimanded or even their account suspended for continued abuses.
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Fuller Rath - 21 Aug 2007 04:26 GMT That's a stretch since many ISPs would rather have their monthly $$$$ from the subscriber. After all, with unregulated crapitalism, the buck rules all.
: > > Other than saying you might have a point, it has -=nothing=- to do with : > > Toyotya Trucks ... !!! [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] : Complaints to many ISP's will get the users reprimanded or even their : account suspended for continued abuses. President Hillary - 21 Aug 2007 13:38 GMT >> > Other than saying you might have a point, it has -=nothing=- to do with >> > Toyotya Trucks ... !!! [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Complaints to many ISP's will get the users reprimanded or even their > account suspended for continued abuses. Nonsense! Virtually all the major ISPs and most of the smaller ISPs still around have long ago written off the few crybabies and self-appointed NetKKKops who badger them with their petty malcontent whining about Usenet, particularly when it involves differences of opinion in *unmoderated* forums. The TOS of major ISPs don't even mention Usenet anymore. Flooding and excessive x-posting 'might' get the attention of a few ISPs, but posting of a subject *you* happen to not think should be posted is of little consequence to an ISP. Put in simple language, you are pissing in the wind. Moreover, when someone marks a post as "OT," you should have enough common sense to either not read it or use your filters to block the poster.
Leythos - 21 Aug 2007 15:52 GMT > > Complaints to many ISP's will get the users reprimanded or even their > > account suspended for continued abuses. > > Nonsense! Sorry, but you don't have enough experience if you think so. Sending full headers with the complaint will often get an abuser removed.
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President Hillary - 21 Aug 2007 17:17 GMT >> > Complaints to many ISP's will get the users reprimanded or even their >> > account suspended for continued abuses. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Sorry, but you don't have enough experience if you think so. Sending > full headers with the complaint will often get an abuser removed. Oh, I understand now, thanks for clearing things up. In other words, you are either a Fuckwit or a self-appointed NetKKKop or maybe even both. So which is it?
Leythos - 21 Aug 2007 18:56 GMT > >> > Complaints to many ISP's will get the users reprimanded or even their > >> > account suspended for continued abuses. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > you are either a Fuckwit or a self-appointed NetKKKop or maybe > even both. So which is it? I didn't report anyone for the OT post, I was correcting misinformation about how they can be stopped - are you always such a nasty person?
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President Hillary - 21 Aug 2007 19:23 GMT >> >> > Complaints to many ISP's will get the users reprimanded or even >> >> > their [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I didn't report anyone for the OT post, I was correcting misinformation > about how they can be stopped - are you always such a nasty person? I see, now you are back pedaling. Do you always shift position on things so quickly?
Fuller Rath - 22 Aug 2007 02:18 GMT Bullshit
: > > Complaints to many ISP's will get the users reprimanded or even their : > > account suspended for continued abuses. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : Sorry, but you don't have enough experience if you think so. Sending : full headers with the complaint will often get an abuser removed. President Hillary - 21 Aug 2007 02:11 GMT They are called "Anchor Babies," and illegals use them to ultimately bring their entire families to the U.S. The Anchor Baby loophole in U.S. immigration law is but one broken part of U.S. immigration law. Don't count on either Democrats OR Republicans to fix the loophole. George Bush AND Hillary Clinton both suuport illegal immigration.
American has been sold out, and just around the corner is the North American Union (NAU). The NAU will dismantle national borders between Mexico, USA, and Canada. After that comes the one world government. STAY TUNED!
rigger - 21 Aug 2007 17:45 GMT > They are called "Anchor Babies," and illegals use them to ultimately > bring their entire families to the U.S. The Anchor Baby loophole in [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > borders between Mexico, USA, and Canada. After that comes the > one world government. STAY TUNED!
> bring their entire families to the U.S. The Anchor Baby loophole in
> U.S. immigration law is but one broken part of U.S. immigration law.
ATTENTION ************************************** There is NO "anchor baby loophole." It's clear in United States law that NO "fruits of a poisonous tree" are legal. Read it again:
>It's clear in United States law that NO "fruits of a poisonous tree" >are legal. It's very simple to understand: If you are breaking the law/ commiting a crime then acts which might normally be considered legal which result from your action are now illegal. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PROFIT FROM YOUR CRIME
No child of any ILLEGAL immigrant has citizenship. (And we shouldn't be paying their damn hospital bills either).
dennis in nca
Jeff Strickland - 21 Aug 2007 18:20 GMT > No child of any ILLEGAL immigrant has citizenship. > (And we shouldn't be paying their damn hospital bills > either). Technically you are wrong. Anybody that has the good fortune to be born on American soil is automatically an American citizen, regardless of the immigration status of the parent(s)/mother. Since the child is a citizen, he or she can apply for immediate family members -- parents, brothers, sisters -- to become resident aliens (legal immigrants).
This baby is what is termed an anchor baby. Like a boat, one throws the anchor overboard and waits for it to catch a hold of something. The baby is the anchor to legal immigration status.
This is the "broken law" that needs to be fixed.
Fuller Rath - 21 Aug 2007 21:16 GMT It's called "amending the constitution." Good luck on that one!
: > No child of any ILLEGAL immigrant has citizenship. : > (And we shouldn't be paying their damn hospital bills [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] : : This is the "broken law" that needs to be fixed. Dean - 22 Aug 2007 03:03 GMT TAKE IT TO A GROUP THAT CARES.
>She has been arrested and they (the government) has deported her back to >Mexico. Her issue is that her son is an American citizen. The broken law is [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >the good fortune to be born before his mother gets caught. Then, when the >mother is ultimately caught, the baby goes where the mother goes. President Hillary - 22 Aug 2007 16:03 GMT > TAKE IT TO A GROUP THAT CARES. f.ck YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sir F. A. Rien - 22 Aug 2007 17:01 GMT "President Hillary" <AlGore@stuerogals.net> found these unused words:
>> TAKE IT TO A GROUP THAT CARES. > >f.ck YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Only if you bring Monica with you ...
Fuller Rath - 22 Aug 2007 21:13 GMT No, bring Jenna. Her c.nt is wide enough to accommodate the entire population of Boston
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: "President Hillary" <AlGore@stuerogals.net> found these unused words: : [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : > : Only if you bring Monica with you ... Dean - 22 Aug 2007 18:53 GMT >> TAKE IT TO A GROUP THAT CARES. > >f.ck YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well, that certainly shows how intelligent and mature you are! You have a good day, and go away.
Kalib Aharaq - 22 Aug 2007 20:41 GMT "Dean" <garrisnews@pobox.com> blubbered & whined in a message: //// SNIP /////
Awwwwww shuddup Fuckwit !
Dean - 23 Aug 2007 00:32 GMT >"Dean" <garrisnews@pobox.com> blubbered & whined in a message: >//// SNIP ///// > >Awwwwww shuddup Fuckwit ! Oh, such a display of intelligence. Well, that's what the old kill files are for. Bye Bye.
Kalib Aharaq - 23 Aug 2007 02:05 GMT >>"Dean" <garrisnews@pobox.com> blubbered & whined in a message: >>//// SNIP ///// [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Oh, such a display of intelligence. Well, that's what the old kill > files are for. Bye Bye. Come now, who are you fooling? You will be checking hourly to read "the latest." You can't resist.
Kalib Aharaq - 22 Aug 2007 16:32 GMT > TAKE IT TO A GROUP THAT CARES. You must be a neo-liberal leftist Democrat facist. They are the only kind who fear a free, open, & robust discussion of ideas. Sent your check to Hillary, Inc. yet?
Dean - 22 Aug 2007 18:54 GMT >> TAKE IT TO A GROUP THAT CARES. > >You must be a neo-liberal leftist Democrat facist. They are the >only kind who fear a free, open, & robust discussion of ideas. >Sent your check to Hillary, Inc. yet? I do like to see free, open, & robust discussion of ideas, as long as they are in the appropriate group.
Kalib Aharaq - 22 Aug 2007 20:43 GMT >>> TAKE IT TO A GROUP THAT CARES. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I do like to see free, open, & robust discussion of ideas, as long as > they are in the appropriate group. And of course, *you* as the self-appointed NetKKKop get to decide what is and is not a so called 'appropriate' group. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA go f.ck yourself
Leythos - 22 Aug 2007 20:51 GMT > And of course, *you* as the self-appointed NetKKKop get to > decide what is and is not a so called 'appropriate' group. > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA > go f.ck yourself And some lamer telling a person in a Toyota group about being a netkop in a completely off topic thread.... Why do you zealots and trolls always resort to NASTY/RUDE comments when you've been exposed?
 Signature Leythos - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
Kalib Aharaq - 22 Aug 2007 21:48 GMT >> And of course, *you* as the self-appointed NetKKKop get to >> decide what is and is not a so called 'appropriate' group. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > in a completely off topic thread.... Why do you zealots and trolls > always resort to NASTY/RUDE comments when you've been exposed? Now that's REALLY funny, coming from a Troll like you. Upset because you are getting no where with your Trolls?
Fuller Rath - 22 Aug 2007 21:12 GMT Spoken by a true reich wing girly boy who wears a bra on his head.
: > TAKE IT TO A GROUP THAT CARES. : : You must be a neo-liberal leftist Democrat facist. They are the : only kind who fear a free, open, & robust discussion of ideas. : Sent your check to Hillary, Inc. yet? Kalib Aharaq - 22 Aug 2007 21:49 GMT > Spoken by a true reich wing //SNIP// FLUSHED
gone!
Fuller Rath - 23 Aug 2007 01:35 GMT What kind of a name is "Kalib Aharaq" anyway? Sounds mighty suspicious to me..
: > Spoken by a true reich wing //SNIP// : : FLUSHED : : gone!
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