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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Trucks / March 2008

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96 5VZ 4Runner fails SMOG test

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Joseph Wind - 10 Mar 2008 06:09 GMT
A friend of mine has a 94 5VZ 4Runner. It failed on the 15mph test, too much
NO more than double allowed.  It passed fine on the 25mph test, but still in
the upper limits.  CO2 and HC levels are within normal or below average.

The SMOG tech suggested it was running too lean.  I don't think it's the
CAT, IMHO, but I'm leaning towards clogged injectors or bad MAF sensor, but
usually it would run rich if the MAF is bad.  The EGR valve was recently
replaced, but I'm not sure if it was replaced before or after the SMOG test.

What else would cause the NO to be so high?

TIA

JW

P.S.  I'm referring to California SMOG test.
Mike - 11 Mar 2008 00:58 GMT
>A friend of mine has a 94 5VZ 4Runner. It failed on the 15mph test, too much
>NO more than double allowed.  It passed fine on the 25mph test, but still in
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>
> P.S.  I'm referring to California SMOG test.

High NO would be casued by an inoperative EGR system.
al - 11 Mar 2008 01:03 GMT
> >A friend of mine has a 94 5VZ 4Runner. It failed on the 15mph test, too much
> >NO more than double allowed.  It passed fine on the 25mph test, but still in
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High NO implies higher than normal combustion temperatures.  A lean
mixture can cause that.  A faulty thermostat or a malfunctioning
cooling system can raise temperatures too.  Is the temperature gauge
reading high?  A faulty EGR system, which cools engine temperatures by
inserting recycled exhaust gas into the cylinder, can also cause
combustion temperatures to get high.  In exteme cases, noticeable
pinging can be heard.  Good luck.  Al
Joseph Wind - 12 Mar 2008 21:05 GMT
>>A friend of mine has a 94 5VZ 4Runner. It failed on the 15mph test, too
>>much NO more than double allowed.  It passed fine on the 25mph test, but
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> High NO would be casued by an inoperative EGR system.
Thanks for the Replies!

The EGR was replaced before the test and engine temp is normal.  Unless the
new EGR is bad or the vacuum lines are leaking clogged, I don't know what
else to think of.  Also the engine runs normal, no unusual pinging or miss
fires at idle.  We're gonna try to clean the intake and throttle body, it
did seem a bit dirty, and replace the air filter.
johngdole@hotmail.com - 13 Mar 2008 04:50 GMT
Like others said, check your EGR system. Also too advanced engine
timing or lean mixture can do it too. Check things that raise
combustion temperature.

Check following:
http://www.asashop.org/autoinc/oct2004/techtips.htm

> A friend of mine has a 94 5VZ 4Runner. It failed on the 15mph test, too much
> NO more than double allowed.  It passed fine on the 25mph test, but still in
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> P.S.  I'm referring to California SMOG test.
al - 14 Mar 2008 02:14 GMT
On Mar 12, 11:50 pm, johngd...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Like others said, check your EGR system. Also too advanced engine
> timing or lean mixture can do it too. Check things that raise
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>
> - Show quoted text -

When the EGR system fails it is often not the EGR valve.  The EGR
system must be checked.  That includes the vacuum lines but most
importantly the passageways that carry the exhaust gas.  Given the
corrosive nature of exhaust gas, problems with components that it
routinely contacts are not unusual.  Good luck.  Al
Handyman - 14 Mar 2008 14:34 GMT
> On Mar 12, 11:50 pm, johngd...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
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> corrosive nature of exhaust gas, problems with components that it
> routinely contacts are not unusual.  Good luck.  Al

To start with, wasn't the 94 4runner a 3VZ 3.0 liter not a 5VZ?  If
so, I have seen the EGR modulator (Toyota pt # 25870-65010) get a
pinhole leak in the diaphram.  The modulator is located right above
the power steering pump and is mounted in a clip on the intake
plenum.  You should be able to rev the engine and see if the stem to
the valve on the EGR valve is moving when you increase the engine
RPMs, if it is not, you either have a stuck EGR valve or a vacuum leak
leading to it.
Joseph Wind - 20 Mar 2008 21:17 GMT
It's a 96, I'm familiar with what your describing, I have a 93 with a 3VZ.
My friend is supposed to get it retested this week.

> To start with, wasn't the 94 4runner a 3VZ 3.0 liter not a 5VZ?  If
> so, I have seen the EGR modulator (Toyota pt # 25870-65010) get a
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> RPMs, if it is not, you either have a stuck EGR valve or a vacuum leak
> leading to it.
 
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