Navigation is not offered in the U.S., it appears to be offered in Europe.

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>>>>I am ordering a new RAV4 now, with full map NAVI,
>>>> and I wonder:
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> Navigation is not offered in the U.S., it appears to be offered in Europe.
Yes, here in Norway the NAV system is an option on the RAV4 Executive and is
standard on the X (177 hp Diesel).
Now we just have to wait 4 months for our new car.
Our 2000 Corolla 1.8 4WD has gone 150 000 km and is still OK, but we want
more ground clearence and a higher sitting position. My wife does most of
the driving, she is a nurse and has to get to work in all weather and road
conditions. .
We have tried both the old and new RAV4s several times on long trips and in
snowy woodland roads, and think they are great to drive. A Landcruiser would
certainly be be fine too, but that costs twice as much here.
We could however do well without the RAVs unpractical sidehinged back door
with spare wheel, but runflat tires are not desireable since wee need both
summer and winter tires.
Before that 2000 Corolla we had a 1988 Corolla 1.6 4WD which we sold at 360
000 km, and the buyer is still happy with it. He may have changed the first
clutch now.
We also occasionally see the 1985 Tercel 4WD that we sold in 88, It is ugly
now but still running fine.
So Toyota 4WD is the only way.
Asbjørn
Ray O - 20 Oct 2006 22:14 GMT
>>>>>I am ordering a new RAV4 now, with full map NAVI,
>>>>> and I wonder:
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> Asbjørn
I think the Rav4 is a very practical commuting vehicle for people who
frequently drive on snowy roads or who have to travel on untreated roads.
They are popular in the U.S., and I cannot remember the last time someone
posted a question about a problem with a Rav4 in this newsgroup. I did see
a question in another group pertaining to wind noise at highway speeds in
his 2007 Rav4, but that is the only problem I can remember anyone
mentioning.
Regarding the side-hinged back door and externally mounted spare wheel,
mounting the spare in the cargo area would reduce available interior cargo
space, and at least for the first generation Rav4, it looks like there is
not enough room to fit the spare underneath the vehicle between the rear
differential and rear bumper. That leaves mounting the spare on the rear,
and with a rear-mounted spare, a lift back rear hatch would either be heavy
if the spare is attached to the hatch or would require swinging the spare
mounting bracket out of the way each time the hatch is opened. Mounting the
wheel on a side-opening door means that the spare does not have to be moved
out of the way every time the rear hatch is opened, and I suspect that a
side-opening hatch costs less than one that lifts because support struts are
not needed.

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Ron Jones - 22 Oct 2006 16:10 GMT
>> Yes, here in Norway the NAV system is an option on the RAV4 Executive and
>> is standard on the X (177 hp Diesel).
Isn't the Euro RAV4 on a different chassis than the US version?
Wish we had a diesel here in the states! Although my 3.5 L V6 is VERY nice
as its quiet and powerful. Gas milage is pretty good for such a large
engine. I've averaged 23 mpg over the first 5,000 miles in mixed driving.
Best tank was 28 on all highway.
BTW if you are looking for a good RAV4 forum, check out:
http://rav4world.com/forums/
EB - 22 Oct 2006 16:10 GMT
>>> Yes, here in Norway the NAV system is an option on the RAV4 Executive and
>>> is standard on the X (177 hp Diesel).
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> Isn't the Euro RAV4 on a different chassis than the US version?
I think it has to be, I read the wheelbase is shorter.
> BTW if you are looking for a good RAV4 forum, check out:
> http://rav4world.com/forums/
agreed, it's a great forum, and w/o the nut jobs who seem to
be ever-present :-)
Scott in Florida - 20 Oct 2006 22:34 GMT
>>>>>I am ordering a new RAV4 now, with full map NAVI,
>>>>> and I wonder:
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>Asbjørn
We in America don't have the benefit of the Toyota diesel engines.
I'd like to hear how they perform and what kind of gas (er oil)
mileage you get with a modern diesel.

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Asbjørn - 21 Oct 2006 18:41 GMT
>>>>>>I am ordering a new RAV4 now, with full map NAVI,
>>>>>> and I wonder:
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> Scott in Florida
From my 2006 (new generation) RAV4 brochure:
Engine Power , Torque Highway / mixed / city
driving,
2.0 litre VVT-i gasoline, 152 hp, 194 Nm 0.74 / 0.90 / 1.16 litre/10
km
2.2 litre D-4D Diesel 136 hp, 310 Nm 0.56 / 0.66 / 0.81 litre/10
km
2.2 litre D-4D Diesel 177 hp, 400 Nm 0.61 / 0.70 / 0.84 litre/10
km
Hope that you can do the convertions to US units yourselves.
The Diesel is much more comfortable to drive because of a wider RPM range
with higher torque.
And diesel is about 10 % cheaper than gasoline here.
Asbjørn
Scott in Florida - 21 Oct 2006 19:35 GMT
>>>>>>>I am ordering a new RAV4 now, with full map NAVI,
>>>>>>> and I wonder:
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>Asbjørn
Thanks for the figures.
I have NO idea why, but diesel is more expensive than gasoline in most
places here in the states. It did not used to be that way...
assuming the math is correct on the below site....then
http://www.onlineconversion.com/fuel_consumption.htm
For the 2.0 litre VVT i Gasoline
7.4 liters/100 km = 31.7857545 miles/gallon(US)
9 liters/100 km = 26.1349537 miles/gallon(US)
11.16 liters/100 km = 21.0765756 miles/gallon(US)
For the 2.2 litre D-4D 136HP
5.6 liters/100 km = 42.0026042 miles/gallon(US)
6.6 liters/100 km = 35.6385732 miles/gallon(US)
8.1 liters/100 km = 29.0388374 miles/gallon(US)
For the 2.2 litre D-4D Diesel 177 hp
6.1 liters/100 km = 38.5597678 miles/gallon(US)
7 liters/100 km = 33.6020833 miles/gallon(US)
8.4 liters/100 km = 28.0017361 miles/gallon(US)

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Ray O - 21 Oct 2006 19:44 GMT
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>> We in America don't have the benefit of the Toyota diesel engines.
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> Asbjørn
This site has a handy on-line converter:
http://www.eforecourt.com/l_100km_mpg_convert.htm

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