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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / January 2007How much should I pay for a Scion xA?
I went to the Toyota of Seattle showroom today and asked about a Scion xA basic model with power steering and automatic transmission. The salesperson of course quoted the sticker price of $14,160 plus around 10% tax which would run to approximately $15,600. I felt it was rather high for a car that small with so few accessories. I ended up telling the sales person that he should give me a better quote as the price was too high. He told me that the price was non-negotiable as Toyota had asked them to sell the car at that price and that he was not getting any commission off it. Is there anyone who got a 2006 Scion xA automatic transmission car for cheaper than the $15,600 quoted? Please do give me the contact number and address of the dealer gave you that offer and the price you got it for. > I went to the Toyota of Seattle showroom today and asked about a Scion > xA basic model with power steering and automatic transmission. The [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > and address of the dealer gave you that offer and the price you got it > for. In Seattle your gonna need a more sturdier car than a Toyota Scion. The accident rate is astronomical out there because of all the bad drivers and all the rain. Consider a VW Jetta which has the 5 star side impact crash test rating. Government Standard. East- > > I went to the Toyota of Seattle showroom today and asked about a Scion > > xA basic model with power steering and automatic transmission. The [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > East- Not to mention that the poor road designs in Washington state don't make matters any better for the high accident rates. Seattles roads are so horribly designed/constructed that it's as if some guy on an acid trip had put them together. East- That doesn't answer my question! > > > I went to the Toyota of Seattle showroom today and asked about a Scion > > > xA basic model with power steering and automatic transmission. The [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > East- > That doesn't answer my question! > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > > > East- Just keep shopping around. Try Autotrader.com. Try all the online stores. Check the Internet for prices far away from you. Consider that if you buy an out of state car you might have to shell out hundreds of extra dollars to get it licensed in Washington as opposed to an in-state car. But I would strongly suggest that you find yourself a more sturdy vehicle for Seattle. Look at those trucks your are competing with. Consider a new Hybrid. There are large Hybrids now, small ones, and medium sized ones. I have been driving for over 7 years. I have had a CLEAN driving history until one faitful night in downtown Seattle when some jerk decided to run a light. Which so happened to be my FIRST night spent in Seattle. The drivers there are awful. Always cutting everyone off. They never take their turn, nobody follows the "right of way" laws. It's Chaos I'm telling you. Chaos. My past experience with Seattle only goes to show what a bad town it is for driving in. As a matter of fact Seattle has been consistently ranked the top 5 of the worst cities to drive in for the USA. Right above San Francisco, and New York City. There's a reason why your insurance rates are so astronomically high out there in comparison to the rest of the country. East- > > That doesn't answer my question! > > [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > East- Maybe the OP lives there, already has some idea what he's up against and doesn't really need us to explain to him how traffic in Seattle works. My experience is that Seattle is no worse than any other metro area and better than some.  SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > > > That doesn't answer my question! > > > [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com I agree with you there. I had no problem in Seattle in a rented Geo Metro a few years back. > [...] Seattles roads are so horribly designed/constructed that > it's as if some guy on an acid trip had put them together. Too much coffee? (Or has Seattle quit that habit?) SignatureAndrew Stephenson >> I went to the Toyota of Seattle showroom today and asked about a Scion >> xA basic model with power steering and automatic transmission. The [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Consider a VW Jetta which has the 5 star side impact crash test rating. > Government Standard. UGH!!!! He wants something he can DRIVE, not sit in the dealer's waiting room reading magazines! Best idea VW ever had: The Jetta Trek. Then you had a bicycle you could ride while the car was being serviced. Hachiroku, Former (and NEVER again) Jetta owner... > East- I think it was amitsett@gmail.com who stated: >I went to the Toyota of Seattle showroom today and asked about a Scion >xA basic model with power steering and automatic transmission. The [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >and address of the dealer gave you that offer and the price you got it >for. A better place to ask this question is http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=4 The official policy of Scion is that the dealers sell at MSRP and there is no negotiation. -- He who laughs last thinks slowest >I think it was amitsett@gmail.com who stated: > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > The official policy of Scion is that the dealers sell at MSRP and > there is no negotiation. They didn't let us haggle either. Natalie > A better place to ask this question is > > http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=4 > > The official policy of Scion is that the dealers sell at MSRP and > there is no negotiation. Saturn also has a policy like that, but it's unenforceable (as well as borderline illegal) and dealers routinely negotiate on price. Since Scions are not exactly flying off the lot, it should be possible to negotiate a better deal. > Saturn also has a policy like that, but it's unenforceable (as well as > borderline illegal) and dealers routinely negotiate on price. Since > Scions are not exactly flying off the lot, maybe where YOU live. when i was looking for an indigo ink 5 speed xA, only one dealer in the greater LA area had one in stock, and that one came off the truck the evening before. >I went to the Toyota of Seattle showroom today and asked about a Scion >xA basic model with power steering and automatic transmission. The [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >and address of the dealer gave you that offer and the price you got it >for. I bought my Xa at Burien Toyota. It had 9K miles and I paid about 10 thousand. Got all of the service spiffs & warranty. These are good people. I live & drive in the south Sound area and have no complaints about the driving of others, other than the cell phone users. First avenue in a pot hole problem, but it is being worked on. Have a good new year. On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:19:16 -0800, amitsett wrote: > I went to the Toyota of Seattle showroom today and asked about a Scion xA > basic model with power steering and automatic transmission. The [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > cheaper than the $15,600 quoted? Please do give me the contact number and > address of the dealer gave you that offer and the price you got it for. Scion was set up as a non-negotiable priced car. You're getting a decent price on Scions. This works because they are in high demand and short supply. For example: 2006 Scion tC Base Invoice Price: $15,485 - $16,245 * Base List Price: $16,300 - $17,100 * 2006 Scion tC Hatchback Coupe 2D Excellent $20,105 This is the price for a USED Scion tC. Why is a USED tC selling for more? Because they CAN! The cars are in short supply, and the dealers can't RAISE prices, either. If this was marketed as a 'Toyota' you could very well see an ADMU (Additional Dealer Mark-Up) of $2500-$3000. Why? Because the dealer HAS the car! They do this on popular models to make what THEY think the car should sell for. But Scion dealer's hands are tied by the Factory, and they are told you WILL sell the car for this price, even though they know they could get more. Thing is, they know if YOU don't buy it, there are plenty who will. Perhaps another option would be a Honda Fit. Similar, a *little* less 'quirky' styling, and a lot of the same or similar stuff (same displacement engine, similar base equipment) Bear in mind, as the price of gas goes UP, so does the price of these cars...with the exception of Scion. Once a car is purchased from Toyota with a window sticker, the sticker price stays until the car is sold. > On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:19:16 -0800, amitsett wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > Scion. Once a car is purchased from Toyota with a window sticker, the > sticker price stays until the car is sold. Right. Of course, the waiting line gets longer. :-) SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/ wrote: > This is the price for a USED Scion tC. Why is a USED tC selling for more? because toyota will not take a buy out an upside-down loan and add it to the cost of a *new* scion. but they will for a used one! The salesman lied to you.........twice Find another dealer, WBMA ;) mike >I went to the Toyota of Seattle showroom today and asked about a Scion > xA basic model with power steering and automatic transmission. The > salesperson of course quoted the sticker price of $14,160 plus around > 10% tax which would run to approximately $15,600. > I ended up telling the sales person that he should give me a better > quote as the price was too high. He told me that the price was > non-negotiable as Toyota had asked them to sell the car at that price > and that he was not getting any commission off it. Doesn't Scion have fixed non-negotiable pricing like Saturn? Signaturetoyomoho I think it was toyomoho <toyomoho.2jp68b@no-mx.forums.yourdomain.com.au> who stated: >Doesn't Scion have fixed non-negotiable pricing like Saturn? Perzactly! The Toyota dealership (Toyota of Rochester (MN)) we bought our Camry from already had that, so it was a good fit for them to add Scion to their line. I really like shopping there 'cause there was no pressure and no haggling. They had decent prices on their cars, and if you didn't like what was on the lot, they'd cut you an equivalent good deal for one you would order from Toyota. And, of course. Scion. The BEST part is that the sales folk aren't paid on commission; their pay is based on customer satisfaction. So Arlyn Ness, our favorite sales guy of any we've ever met, didn't put ANY pressure on us to load up with options or to choose this model over that 'cause he'd get more from one or the other. He wanted us to be the car that was best for US. Period. That's also been our experience with the service department there. I *like* doing business with a place that treats me like I've been treated by Rochester Toyota/Scion! (They also sell Fords there, but the Toyota/Scion part is moving to new digs early in '07 -- YAAY!) -Don -- Everyone has a photographic memory; but some don't have film > So Arlyn Ness, our favorite sales guy > of any we've ever met, Hmmm...I know him! Now, I have never lived in Upstate New York at all. Must be a transplant... I think it was Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@AE86.gts> who stated: >> So Arlyn Ness, our favorite sales guy >> of any we've ever met, > >Hmmm...I know him! Now, I have never lived in Upstate New York at all. > >Must be a transplant... This Arlyn Ness isn't in Upstate New York. No New York at all. The "Toyota of Rochester (MN)" I refer to is in the Rochester in Minnesota, as was obviously NOT made clear by the tiny (MN) in my post. Sorry for any confusion. (I should know better 'cause of all the stories I know of about people going to Rochester, expecting to arrive in NY and wind up in MN instead!) -Don -- A day without sunshine is like, well, night > I think it was Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@AE86.gts> who stated: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > -Don Well, I was off by 800 miles? But that name still sounds familiar. And I'm NOT thinking of Elliot Ness or Areln Spector... I think it was Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@AE86.gts> who stated: >> This Arlyn Ness isn't in Upstate New York. No New York at all. The "Toyota >> of Rochester (MN)" I refer to is in the Rochester in Minnesota, as was [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> know of about people going to Rochester, expecting to arrive in NY and >> wind up in MN instead!) >Well, I was off by 800 miles? But that name still sounds familiar. And I'm >NOT thinking of Elliot Ness or Areln Spector... There's an Arlen Ness (note different spelling of the first name) who is a motorcycle customizer; might that be who you're thinking of? -- A day without sunshine is like, well, night > I think it was Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@AE86.gts> who stated: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > There's an Arlen Ness (note different spelling of the first name) who is a > motorcycle customizer; might that be who you're thinking of? I don't think so. Hmmm...ask him if he's ever been in New England... > I went to the Toyota of Seattle showroom today and asked about a Scion > xA basic model with power steering and automatic transmission. The [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > and address of the dealer gave you that offer and the price you got it > for. The answer is simple. If you want to get a good deal on a car. Don't get a scion. They will only sell at or above MSRP. They will not let you haggle. Look elsewhere. There are tons of other car companies out there. The idea that Toyota has quality superior to everyone else is just a misconception no days as their quality has fallen in recent years now that they've been mass producing cars in larger numbers now than ever before. In reality, your just paying for the name. And like I said. You live in Seattle after all. You need a more substantial car. If you MUST buy Japanese than I would strongly suggest that you look into Subaru. Subaru is a big seller in the pacific northwest. Probably because they offer the best AWD system in the market right now and it rains all the time over there. Subaru also has high ranking when it comes to crash worthiness. If you want something with a low price tag as a new car consider the KIA RIO. I think it starts at $11,000 and it does everything the scion does for much less and on top of that it has a 100,000 mile 10 year warrantee in case anything should happen. The toy on the other hand only has a 36,000 warrantee. Consider all your options first before considering a Scion. A car which is seriously over rated right now. If anything you can wait so many years for the coolness factor to cool off. Than you can haggle. Or buy used. East- >> I went to the Toyota of Seattle showroom today and asked about a Scion >> xA basic model with power steering and automatic transmission. The [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > East- Drive one... > Drive one... I drove a Scion tC yesterday and was not impressed. I'm 5'8" and there wasn't any head room at all in the drivers seat. In the back seat my head pressed up against the rear glass hatch back window. And Toyota made the car so boring to drive. The engine had no soul. There was no exhaust note. The driving experience was about as fun as riding the bus. East- >> Drive one... > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > East- I'm 6 feet. I have no problem. The only thing I don't like is the gas pedal is too close. And, I don't sit in the back seat. I have a Mazda that sounds REAL good. I put a $29 muffler on it. You're right...it SOUNDS better than my tC. Perhaps it's not that the CAR is boring to drive, but the driving method is boring. I have a blast in mine. It's even more fun than my Corolla GTS (and I didn't EVER think I'd say that about any car...the GTS is SOLID) and almost as much of a blast as my Supra. As a matter of fact, to 100 MPH it's .1 second slower than a NA Supra. Get a Honda...then you can put a $200 Fart Horn on it and make all the sound you want... Hear the voices in my head I swear to God it sounds like they're snoring But if you're bored then you're boring The agony and the irony, they're killing me, whoa! I think it was "eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com" <eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com> who stated: >> Drive one... > >I drove a Scion tC yesterday and was not impressed. I'm 5'8" and there >wasn't any head room at all in the drivers seat. In the back seat my >head pressed up against the rear glass hatch back window. You're looking at the wrong Scion, then. If it's headroom and backseat room you want, the Scion for you is the xB! >And Toyota >made the car so boring to drive. The engine had no soul. There was no >exhaust note. The driving experience was about as fun as riding the >bus. There are no boring cars; only boring drivers. -- I just got lost in thought; it was unfamiliar territory > The answer is simple. If you want to get a good deal on a car. Don't > get a scion. They will only sell at or above MSRP. They will not let > you haggle. Look elsewhere. i disagree. i LIKE the fact that the sticker price is the price you pay. no surprises, no having to choose "option packs" and have to negotiate the price and availability of *those* as well. i considered a yaris, but by the time id find one with all the stuff the xA has standard, it would ve cost even more. >> The answer is simple. If you want to get a good deal on a car. Don't >> get a scion. They will only sell at or above MSRP. They will not let [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > i considered a yaris, but by the time id find one with all the stuff the > xA has standard, it would ve cost even more. Let's put it this way: my 1985 Corolla GTS cost $13725 when I bought it. 1.6 Liter DOHC developing 112 BHp and Air Conditioning. The AC was it for Optional Eq. Oh, wait, it does have the LSD option (Oh, WOW, Man!) The Scion tC has power everything as standard, has the 'panoramic' roof, 17" allowys instead of 14, etc, etc, and has a 2.4l DOHC developing 165 HP. The MSRP on the car new was $17,275. I think $4,000 over TWENTY YEARS isn't really all that bad... If you had invested that $13725 at five or six percent per annum in 1985, you would have had $50000 or so, twenty years later. The $17000 in today's dollars is several times less what you paid in 1985 dollars - perhaps the equivalent of $5000 in 1985. >>> The answer is simple. If you want to get a good deal on a car. Don't >>> get a scion. They will only sell at or above MSRP. They will not let [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > The MSRP on the car new was $17,275. I think $4,000 over TWENTY YEARS > isn't really all that bad... > If you had invested that $13725 at five or six percent per annum in 1985, > you would have had $50000 or so, twenty years later. The $17000 in today's > dollars is several times less what you paid in 1985 dollars - perhaps the > equivalent of $5000 in 1985. That makes a Scion an even better deal! >>>> The answer is simple. If you want to get a good deal on a car. Don't >>>> get a scion. They will only sell at or above MSRP. They will not let [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> The MSRP on the car new was $17,275. I think $4,000 over TWENTY YEARS >> isn't really all that bad... |
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