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q1m7ot001@sneakemail.com - 12 Jan 2007 03:03 GMT
I have a 2006 Toyota Camry XLE and 2007 Rav 4 limited and would like
one remote starter fob that will start booth vehicles.  I was thinking
of having an Audiopage RS622 installed in booth vehicles.
Reliability is very important to me.  Any suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks
Ray O - 12 Jan 2007 05:25 GMT
>I have a 2006 Toyota Camry XLE and 2007 Rav 4 limited and would like
> one remote starter fob that will start booth vehicles.  I was thinking
> of having an Audiopage RS622 installed in booth vehicles.
> Reliability is very important to me.  Any suggestions are appreciated.
>
> Thanks

One of the most troublesome accessories I've seen are aftermarket security
systems and remote starter systems.  Most are installed with Scotch-lock
connectors which often work loose, or they cause other problems.  Someone
recently posted a question regarding his van that would randomly start by
itself - he'd come out to the driveway and find it running.  Turns out that
it was an old remote starter system that was causing the problem.  I've seen
aftermarket systems cause dead batteries or other no-start conditions.  Some
aftermarket systems are great, but more are less than reliable.
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B A R R Y - 12 Jan 2007 12:04 GMT
> One of the most troublesome accessories I've seen are aftermarket security
> systems and remote starter systems.  

-- Snip Ray's excellent technical data --

Not to mention the sheer waste of cars sitting and idling.
Moe - 12 Jan 2007 14:15 GMT
> I have a 2006 Toyota Camry XLE and 2007 Rav 4 limited and would like
> one remote starter fob that will start booth vehicles.  I was thinking
> of having an Audiopage RS622 installed in booth vehicles.
> Reliability is very important to me.  Any suggestions are appreciated.
>
> Thanks

I put a Bulldog remote starter/door lock on my Toyota 3 years ago.
Works great.  Installation wasn't to difficult.  Sams has them at a good
price.
   It's 20 degrees outside,  if I go any where today you better believe
I'll start the car 5 or 10 minutes from inside the house before I go any
where.
  http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/
Don Fearn - 12 Jan 2007 22:12 GMT
I think it was Moe <BubbleleLand@Fat.City> who stated:

>I put a Bulldog remote starter/door lock on my Toyota 3 years ago.
>Works great.  Installation wasn't to difficult.  Sams has them at a good
>price.
>    It's 20 degrees outside,  if I go any where today you better believe
>I'll start the car 5 or 10 minutes from inside the house before I go any
>where.

What a waste. Wasting fuel and wearing the engine unnecessarily. The
BEST way to warm up an engine is to drive the car gently as soon as
it's started; that's also the quickest way to warm it up.

Twenty degrees?? Hardly cold. Minus twenty maybe . . . .

-Don in TROPICAL Minnesota

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Moe - 13 Jan 2007 00:52 GMT
> I think it was Moe <BubbleleLand@Fat.City> who stated:
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Light travels faster than sound; this is why some people appear bright
> until you hear them speak
 Waste?  I'll match my carbon footprint to anyone's.  I'm so cheap I
use a rented opossum for a watchdog.  But remotely warming the car up on
cold days is one thing I'll spend a dime on.   Reminds me, gas is now
1.85 here.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 13 Jan 2007 03:23 GMT
>> I think it was Moe <BubbleleLand@Fat.City> who stated:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> cold days is one thing I'll spend a dime on.   Reminds me, gas is now 1.85
> here.

Shaddup...

$2.33 here...
Cathy F. - 13 Jan 2007 03:48 GMT
>>> I think it was Moe <BubbleleLand@Fat.City> who stated:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> $2.33 here...

$2.47 here; well, as of a couple of days ago.

But I love my remote starter; was sick of scraping ice each winter.

Cathy
Wickeddoll® - 13 Jan 2007 03:58 GMT
>>>> I think it was Moe <BubbleleLand@Fat.City> who stated:
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> Cathy

Lowest around here is $2.18

I remember everyone making a fuss when gas went over a dollar a gallon...

Natalie
Don Fearn - 13 Jan 2007 13:28 GMT
I think it was "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958diespammersdie@yahoo.com>
who stated:

>I remember everyone making a fuss when gas went over a dollar a gallon...

Heh, heh, heh . . . I remember the fuss when gas went over 50 cents a
gallon . . . !

-Don (feeling old)

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Andrew Stephenson - 13 Jan 2007 14:09 GMT
In article <7hYph.1261$Wz.238@trndny06>
      Trueno@AE86.gts
      "=?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?=" writes:

> > [...]  Reminds me, gas is now 1.85 here.
>
> Shaddup...
>
> $2.33 here...

Just so you can all feel better about life: GBP 0.849/litre here,
the other day before latest price drops of GBP 0.02 or so.  (Erm,
in foreign-speak that'd be 3 cowrie shells or $6.27/funnygallon.)
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Bruce L. Bergman - 13 Jan 2007 20:15 GMT
>> > [...]  Reminds me, gas is now 1.85 here.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>the other day before latest price drops of GBP 0.02 or so.  (Erm,
>in foreign-speak that'd be 3 cowrie shells or $6.27/funnygallon.)

 Roughly half of the USA'n retail price for Gasoline and Diesel is in
taxes and fees leveled at all levels of extraction, refining and
transport, wholesale distribution and retail sale, so if you are
paying triple what we are...

 Gee, I thought the Queen repealed the 95% top tax rate - the one
that inspired the line "That's one for you, nineteen for me."  And the
reason why the Beatles left England and 'Mr. Tax Man' to live in
greener pastures where you keep most of what you earned (as did
everyone else with lots of money and any common sense in those days).

 Let's see, we had that 'little Tea Tax protest' in Boston Harbor in
December 1773, what could you lot do that would have the same sort of
lasting impact on public policy...?  ;-)

 --<< Bruce >>--
Andrew Stephenson - 13 Jan 2007 23:57 GMT
>   Let's see, we had that 'little Tea Tax protest' in Boston
> Harbor in December 1773, what could you lot do that would have
> the same sort of lasting impact on public policy...?  ;-)

Well, a drunken gang of our lads could raid McDonalds costumed as
Beefeaters and chuck all their buns in the Thames.  That any use?
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Hachiroku ハチロク - 14 Jan 2007 02:51 GMT
>>   Let's see, we had that 'little Tea Tax protest' in Boston
>> Harbor in December 1773, what could you lot do that would have the same
>> sort of lasting impact on public policy...?  ;-)
>
> Well, a drunken gang of our lads could raid McDonalds costumed as
> Beefeaters and chuck all their buns in the Thames.  That any use?

You talking buns, or *buns*?
Andrew Stephenson - 14 Jan 2007 13:32 GMT
In article <9Vgqh.8714$Ch1.4250@trndny04>
      Trueno@AE86.gts
      "=?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?=" writes:

> >>   Let's see, we had that 'little Tea Tax protest' in Boston
> >> Harbor in December 1773, what could you lot do that would have the same
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> You talking buns, or *buns*?

:-)  Hah.  Overlooked that interpretation.  Let's be _thorough_.
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Hachiroku ハチロク - 14 Jan 2007 02:50 GMT
> In article <7hYph.1261$Wz.238@trndny06>
>       Trueno@AE86.gts
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> other day before latest price drops of GBP 0.02 or so.  (Erm, in
> foreign-speak that'd be 3 cowrie shells or $6.27/funnygallon.)

You have our sympathy.

I guess British Petroleum is making all their profits off you guys, eh?
sharx35 - 14 Jan 2007 08:58 GMT
>> I have a 2006 Toyota Camry XLE and 2007 Rav 4 limited and would like
>> one remote starter fob that will start booth vehicles.  I was thinking
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> I'll start the car 5 or 10 minutes from inside the house before I go any
> where.

20 degrees. That's barely below freezing. What an incredible wimp you are.
Up here in Edmonton, we don''t plug in our block heaters or start the car
early, UNLESS it is below MINUS 25 Celsius, i.e. 13 BELOW Fahrenheit.

>   http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/
Hachiroku ハチロク - 13 Jan 2007 00:36 GMT
> I have a 2006 Toyota Camry XLE and 2007 Rav 4 limited and would like one
> remote starter fob that will start booth vehicles.  I was thinking of
> having an Audiopage RS622 installed in booth vehicles. Reliability is very
> important to me.  Any suggestions are appreciated.
>
> Thanks

The only trouble with this is, they work up to 1/4 mile away, so when you
say you want to start both vehicles,you *will* be starting both vehicles!
There's no way to differentiate, unless the mfg allows something like one
push for one starer and two for the other.

As far as programming, the remote starters are programmed to the fobs. You
will have to perform both programmings at the SAME time in order to have
one fob control both cars.
sharx35 - 14 Jan 2007 09:01 GMT
>> I have a 2006 Toyota Camry XLE and 2007 Rav 4 limited and would like one
>> remote starter fob that will start booth vehicles.  I was thinking of
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> will have to perform both programmings at the SAME time in order to have
> one fob control both cars.

WHY have ONE key or FOB  control more than ONE car? Stupid. Every remote
starter has a DIFFERENT frequency, just like remote garage door openers.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 14 Jan 2007 17:57 GMT
>>> I have a 2006 Toyota Camry XLE and 2007 Rav 4 limited and would like
>>> one remote starter fob that will start booth vehicles.  I was thinking
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> WHY have ONE key or FOB  control more than ONE car? Stupid. Every remote
> starter has a DIFFERENT frequency, just like remote garage door openers.

Alarms and starters can be 'taught' the code from the fob, so if both
starters are the same, they will work off one fob...

All the time...
Gary L. Burnore - 14 Jan 2007 19:44 GMT
>>> I have a 2006 Toyota Camry XLE and 2007 Rav 4 limited and would like one
>>> remote starter fob that will start booth vehicles.  I was thinking of
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>WHY have ONE key or FOB  control more than ONE car? Stupid.

Very.

>Every remote  starter has a DIFFERENT frequency, just like remote garage door openers.

The fobs can only be programmed to one control at a time.  As it
should be.

BTW, to the OP, you should also consider the laws of your state and
locality.  Many disallow allowing a car to run without an occupant,
some disallow long periods of idle.    Bet the neocons don't know
_WHY_. :)

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Hachiroku ハチロク - 14 Jan 2007 21:12 GMT
>>Every remote  starter has a DIFFERENT frequency, just like remote garage
>>door openers.
>
> The fobs can only be programmed to one control at a time.  As it should
> be.

Oh, no...they all have 'learning modes'.

If the control module and the fobs are of the same make and model, you can
program all the fobs to work with whatever control you're dealing with.
The control learns the code from the fob, not vice-versa.
Gary L. Burnore - 15 Jan 2007 00:27 GMT
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:12:21 GMT, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@AE86.gts>
wrote:

>>>Every remote  starter has a DIFFERENT frequency, just like remote garage
>>>door openers.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>program all the fobs to work with whatever control you're dealing with.
>The control learns the code from the fob, not vice-versa.

You just said two different things.   First you said you can program
all the fobs to work with whatever control, then you said the control
learns from the fobs.

Make up your mind and get back to me.  

As far as I can tell, just as with garage door openers,  you can't use
one fob with more than one car, but you can use more than one fob with
the same car.   The reason being that the communication during
programming tells the fob about the one controller.

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Hachiroku ハチロク - 15 Jan 2007 03:14 GMT
>>>>Every remote  starter has a DIFFERENT frequency, just like remote
>>>>garage door openers.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> the fobs to work with whatever control, then you said the control learns
> from the fobs.

You know what I'm saying.

> Make up your mind and get back to me.
>
> As far as I can tell, just as with garage door openers,  you can't use one
> fob with more than one car, but you can use more than one fob with the
> same car.   The reason being that the communication during programming
> tells the fob about the one controller.

Vice versa. THe controller reads the code from the fob and 'memorizes' it.
That's why, if you set both controllers to "learn" or Program mode at the
same time, it will work off whatever matching fobs are pressed within
10-20 seconds.
Gary L. Burnore - 15 Jan 2007 04:25 GMT
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 03:14:37 GMT, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@AE86.gts>
wrote:

>>>>>Every remote  starter has a DIFFERENT frequency, just like remote
>>>>>garage door openers.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>You know what I'm saying.

I know you just said two different things.

>> Make up your mind and get back to me.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Vice versa. THe controller reads the code from the fob and 'memorizes' it.

So then how many fobs can one controller learn?
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Hachiroku ハチロク - 15 Jan 2007 05:05 GMT
>>Vice versa. THe controller reads the code from the fob and 'memorizes'
>>it.
>
> So then how many fobs can one controller learn?

Every alarm I ever had came with two. In the old days you had to open the
fob and set switches, but now they match codes.
sharx35 - 15 Jan 2007 07:55 GMT
> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:12:21 GMT, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@AE86.gts>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> the same car.   The reason being that the communication during
> programming tells the fob about the one controller.

YOU can program ANY number of garage door openers to open the SAME garage
door. Otherwise, if you parked more than ONE vehicle in the SAME garage, you
would have problems.
 
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