The Truth About Toyota Engine Oil Sludge
Toyota engine oil sludge affects more than the few models and model
years covered in Toyota's "Customer Support Program for Engine Oil
Gelation." Toyota indicates that 1997-2002 Sienna, Camry, Avalon,
Solara, Highlander, Celica, Lexus RX300, and Lexus ES300 are the ones
that are sludge-prone. At the same time, it says that these vehicle
owners are to blame for the sludge condition. Toyota doesn't include
the earlier models or the later models, though. It also doesn't include
the Corolla, RAV4, and 4Runner despite the fact that some of these
owners are reporting sludge buildup and engine demise.
The class action lawsuit covers all the models and model years included
in the CSP, contrary to the poster's information above. I suppose that
Toyota will use any loopholes it can to limit the relief for its valued
customers.
Many Toyota owners are reporting that Toyota has required far more
engine oil change receipts than what it publicly has stated it would.
According to owner accounts, owners continue to be treated poorly in
Toyota's alleged effort to limit the number of vehicle owners who
qualify under the CSP. In many cases engines are being cleaned when
they need to be replaced.
Unfortunately, the class action lawsuit doesn't help those with models
not covered under the CSP. It doesn't help those who long ago traded
their vehicles when sludge clogged their engines. It doesn't help those
Toyota owners whose engines mysteriously threw rods through the engine
block. It doesn't do anything for the Toyota owners whose engines
spontaneously erupted in fire on the road for no apparent reason. No,
there are many Toyota owners left out.
Is Toyota really "listening" to online discussions/reports by its
vehicle owners? If so, why isn't the petition being addressed? Why
aren't these owners getting a fair resolution in their sludge or engine
failure cases? We know that Toyota is tracking the owner postings.
Interestingly enough, someone has been trying desperately to sabotage
the Toyota owner petition. Who would care to go to this length to
prevent Toyota owner organization? Who would want to end this petition?
Hmmmm....
Charlene Blake
cblake@erols.com
Toyota Owners Unite for Resolution
http://www.petitiononline.com/TMC2003/petition.html
Scott in Florida - 22 Jan 2007 04:11 GMT
>The Truth About Toyota Engine Oil Sludge
Charlene,
You want me to invite the MDT Toyota Tech back
to shoot you down again?
You are a liar....

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Scott in Florida
Wickeddoll® - 22 Jan 2007 04:28 GMT
"Scott in Florida"
cblake@erols.com wrote:
>>The Truth About Toyota Engine Oil Sludge
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> You are a liar....
Invite him back anyway. I miss him.
:-)
Natalie
Scott in Florida - 22 Jan 2007 04:40 GMT
>"Scott in Florida"
> cblake@erols.com wrote:
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>Natalie
I will....
gawd I thought Charlene was gone....LOL

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Scott in Florida
Coyoteboy - 22 Jan 2007 10:01 GMT
Maybe Toyota should sue for owners blaming the results of their own lack of
competence on Toyota, then trying to cash in on it?
Scott in Florida - 22 Jan 2007 15:37 GMT
>Maybe Toyota should sue for owners blaming the results of their own lack of
>competence on Toyota, then trying to cash in on it?
The Japanese are too honorable.
I really don't understand why they accept all these peoples claims
that they changed their oil.
It is obvious they did not change their oil.

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Scott in Florida
Coyoteboy - 23 Jan 2007 13:52 GMT
>>Maybe Toyota should sue for owners blaming the results of their own lack
>>of competence on Toyota, then trying to cash in on it?
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> It is obvious they did not change their oil.
Exactly, its very easy to provide dodgy evidence that's hard to refute but
also likely to be fake. For example its fairly common in the bike industry
to go to a shop and ask the friendly shop owner to provide a receipt that X
is worth the same as Y so the insurance company will shell out. Then the
shop owner gets a sale and the claimant gets a nice new item.
Shame for the big companies.
Wickeddoll® - 23 Jan 2007 01:27 GMT
> Maybe Toyota should sue for owners blaming the results of their own lack
> of
> competence on Toyota, then trying to cash in on it?
*high-five*
Natalie
Hachiroku ハチロク - 22 Jan 2007 16:13 GMT
>>"Scott in Florida"
>> cblake@erols.com wrote:
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> gawd I thought Charlene was gone....LOL
Nah, the Class Action is probably ramping up, and they need more
defendants so the Lawyers and the original filer(s) can make big money.
Every one else will get a coupon for a quart of oil...
Hachiroku ハチロク - 22 Jan 2007 05:08 GMT
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:53:39 -0800, cblake wrote:
> Charlene Blake
> cblake@erols.com
> Toyota Owners Unite for Resolution
1. How much do YOU stand to make off this Class-Action Rip-Off? It's well
known the only people who win anything in CSAs are the original
filers...and the Lawyers.
No thanks, I'll just change my oil.
2. Did you ever try changing your oil according to schedule?