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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / February 2007Did you like buying your Toyota?
I recently bought a 2007 RAV4 and, to make a long story short, decided to put up a website to help people buy cars. The focus of the site is not to sell anything, but rather to provide useful information to anyone about to buy a car. Hopefully it will help people save time & money and avoid getting scammed. At this point, the site is just getting started so I need input on what people are interested in. There's a survey at http:// surveys.zdecisions.com, and I would be most appreciative if you would take a few minutes and complete the survey. Thanks very much! -chasfs "chasfs" ... >I recently bought a 2007 RAV4 and, to make a long story short, decided > to put up a website to help people buy cars. The focus of the site is [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Thanks very much! > -chasfs Well, I'm not planning to buy a car anytime soon, but I had shopping of any kind (against my DNA, I know), so no, I didn't like it. It's a necessary evil. Buying my husband's Scion was cool. None of that "Let me talk to my manager" negotiation BS. Natalie I think it was "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958diespammersdie@yahoo.com> who stated: >Buying my husband's Scion was cool. None of that "Let me talk to my >manager" negotiation BS. Isn't that a good feeling? We got to experience that twice with Arlyn Ness, the guy who sold us both our xB and our Camry, because Arlyn works at Toyota of Rochester (MN) and they have a one-price policy for ALL the cars they sell. His job was to make us satisfied customers. The discounted prices were clearly marked on all the cars, and what he needed to do was find out from us what we wanted and then find the right car for us; a LOT easier and less pressure than any other car negotiation either my wife or I had ever experienced before. Since buying from Arlyn, I've referred several folks to the dealership, including my daughter who bought a Corolla from them (I couldn't talk her into an xB ;^) and my son has actually joined the company, working there as a mechanic. So it's always fun for me to drop in there -- to buy something, for service on a vehicle, or just to chat -- 'cause I get treated like family! -Don  SignatureHonk if you love peace and quiet "Don Fearn" <pooder@charter.net> ... >I think it was "Wickeddoll®" > who stated: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > couldn't talk her into an xB ;^) and my son has actually joined the > company, working there as a mechanic. Well, at least xBox love isn't genetic... > So it's always fun for me to drop in there -- to buy something, for > service on a vehicle, or just to chat -- 'cause I get treated like > family! > > -Don Hell, you are - you surrendered your children to them! LOL Natalie On Feb 15, 8:18 pm, "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958diespammers...@yahoo.com> wrote: > "chasfs" ... > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Natalie Thanks, Natalie! I'm curious - what do they do for pricing trade in value and dealer installed options? -chasfs http://zdecisions.com <chasfs@gmail.com> wrote in message "Wickeddoll®" wrote: > "chasfs" ... > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Natalie Thanks, Natalie! I'm curious - what do they do for pricing trade in value and dealer installed options? -chasfs http://zdecisions.com We didn't trade - we sold the previous car to my mom. (giving Hachi and Roy some tissues) They were great with the options, though. I liked how it was laid out very clearly for us. Natalie > We didn't trade - we sold the previous car to my mom. (giving Hachi and > Roy some tissues) "Issues isn't the word for it...I cringe every time I see one! >> We didn't trade - we sold the previous car to my mom. (giving Hachi and >> Roy some tissues) > > "Issues isn't the word for it...I cringe every time I see one! I saw an FX 16 on the road yesterday, it appeared to be in very good shape. It was the regular (not GTS) version, and a mini-Gremlin came to mind ;-) SignatureRay O (correct punctuation to reply) "Ray O" wrote com... > "Hachiroku ????" wrote ... >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > shape. It was the regular (not GTS) version, and a mini-Gremlin came to > mind ;-) mmmm... Gremlin...... (Tomes' first car) "Tomes" t... > "Ray O" wrote com... >> "Hachiroku ????" wrote ... [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > mmmm... Gremlin...... > (Tomes' first car) Oh, you poor thing. That car was the second "Pregnant Roller Skate" - the Bug was the first. My Echo has been labeled that as well. Natalie >>> "Hachiroku ????" wrote ... >>>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Oh, you poor thing. That car was the second "Pregnant Roller Skate" - > the Bug was the first. My Echo has been labeled that as well. Hey, that was one of the coolest cars I ever owned (right up there with the Corvair Van). I loved that thing. It was fast off of the line, reliable, and held 23 people while moving 3 feet one day. Tomes >>>> "Hachiroku ????" wrote ... >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > reliable, and held 23 people while moving 3 feet one day. > Tomes So it's a clown car. Thought so. :-) Natalie >>> "Tomes" wrote ... >>>> mmmm... Gremlin...... [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > So it's a clown car. Thought so. > :-) Of course it was. It served its purpose in many ways. :-) Tomes >>>> "Tomes" wrote ... >>>>> mmmm... Gremlin...... [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > :-) > Tomes Oh, yeah...I had a regular Corvair, and my roomate had a Pacer. Talk about a fun car! Slide the seats forward, pull out the headrests, and then recline the front seats all the way down... "Hachiroku ????" wrote ... >>>>> "Tomes" wrote ... >>>>>> mmmm... Gremlin...... [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > a fun car! Slide the seats forward, pull out the headrests, and then > recline the front seats all the way down... There is a Pacer that lives a few houses away from me. Has a big flower pasted onto the hood. See, I am a pretty big AMC fan, from having the Gremlin and my grandparents having their 'Grambler'. I always liked their styles, including the Javelin.. You know that the DeLorean is built on a Javelin frame... Tomes > "Hachiroku ????" wrote ... >>>>>> "Tomes" wrote ... [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Javelin frame... > Tomes You sure? Wait...you don't mean DeLorean, you mean the BRICKLIN! Yeah, it was. Had the 390 and everything. I actually got to drive one once a long time ago. It was fun, but cramped getting in and out. I 'looked' at a Gremlin when I bought my '78 Corolla 1200. If it hadn't had such an "Old Man" interior, I moght have bought one! (The Toyota dealer also sold AMC...my Dad bought a Rambler wagon there in '62, and we have bought 4 Toyotas there!) "Hachiroku ????" wrote ... >> "Hachiroku ????" wrote ... >>>>>>> "Tomes" wrote ... [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > we > have bought 4 Toyotas there!) Argh, It was the Bricklin, not the DeLorean. Sorry about that. The DeLorean was built on a Lotus Esprit frame. Actually, now that I read up on it again (for the first time since the 70's), they only used the AMC 360 engine (and later on the Ford 351). It says nothing about a Javelin underbody. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bricklin_automobile Another long held belief shot to hell.... Tomes > "Hachiroku ????" wrote ... > >>>>> "Tomes" wrote ... [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Javelin frame... > Tomes The Pacer was a package of mixed signals. It was supposed to be thrifty and fuel-efficient for its time, but those oversized expanses of glass weighed more than the steel they replaced. And yes, returning to the thread, I did like buying my Prius. It was a smooth, low-pressure experience. In August 2005 we paid list for a car on the lot. Shortly thereafter gas prices shot up and there was a queue of people paying $1K over list. SignaturePaul of Pemaquid Point "Bounding Maine" >>>> "Hachiroku ????" wrote ... >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > the Corvair Van). I loved that thing. It was fast off of the line, > reliable, and held 23 people while moving 3 feet one day. Tomes You had a Corvair Van? Those things were cool! I had a regular 1969 Chevy 108 (Long wheelbase) like a bus...you sat over the front tire... >>>> mmmm... Gremlin...... >>>> (Tomes' first car) [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Chevy > 108 (Long wheelbase) like a bus...you sat over the front tire... Yep, a 1964. The thing was that I could not keep it on the road. It did not have the original engine and it kept on snapping clutch shafts, so it had to move on to someone more mechanical than I was at the time. It was very cool tho, the driver sat over the front wheels on that too, with the pedals pressing straight down. There is one on a commercial now on TV, a red one just like mine was. The commercial has something to do with guys traveling around to all the hockey games or something like that, might be a local one. Tomes >>>>> mmmm... Gremlin...... >>>>> (Tomes' first car) [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > a local one. > Tomes LOL! Yeah...the Puck Heads! I get the itching for another old van every time I see it! >>>>>> mmmm... Gremlin...... >>>>>> (Tomes' first car) [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > LOL! Yeah...the Puck Heads! I get the itching for another old van every > time I see it! That's it - the Puck Heads. Every time I see it too I point it out to the kids who then give me THAT LOOK again.... Tomes >>>>>>> mmmm... Gremlin...... >>>>>>> (Tomes' first car) [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > kids who then give me THAT LOOK again.... > Tomes HAHAHAHA!!! They just don't know how COOL vans were! I remember in 1972 a friend's uncle had a Chevy C-20 van, he was a carpenter and had racks built into it. We were both 13 or 14 and were 'playing in a band', and I looked at it and said, this is COOL!!! My friend asked me if I was nuts, and I said, Think of what you could do with this!!! Especially for hauling around the equipment! As usual...ahead of my time... Now, if I could just get RICH on some of these ideas!!! ;) SignaturePan Newsreader 0.120 (Plate of Shrimp) Feisty-Fawn (Ubuntu 7.0) "Hachiroku ????" ... Wickeddoll® wrote: >> We didn't trade - we sold the previous car to my mom. (giving Hachi and >> Roy some tissues) > > "Issues isn't the word for it...I cringe every time I see one! There, there. Natalie On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:19:41 -0800, chasfs wrote: > On Feb 15, 8:18 pm, "Wickeddoll®" > <wickeddoll1958diespammers...@yahoo.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > -chasfs > http://zdecisions.com We go by Edward's, NADA or Kelly Blue Book. NADA is fairly neutral, Kelly tends to favor the seller. Should I have told you this? Uh...oh... But then, I don't sell cars anymore, so what do I care! So, you know, if they pull out a NADA book, you're going to get a fair shake. If they pull out a Kelly... And I bought a used Scion tC in September, and the car was valued $1200-1400 less than a new one, but $3000 less than Kelly's price for a used one, and $1000 less than NADA, so I think I got a good deal. I didn't even haggle the price, because it was what I was looking for at exactly the price I was looking for. Should have pushed them for the floor mats, though... >I recently bought a 2007 RAV4 and, to make a long story short, decided > to put up a website to help people buy cars. The focus of the site is [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Thanks very much! > -chasfs I like buying the cars (Toyotas), but I don't like the *process* of buying a car. Except it does make me feel good in the end, since I never give the salesperson what they wanted (MSRP, or anything near it), yet get what I want - both in terms of the car & thew cost. I always go in armed - knowing exactly which model, trim level, & options I want, along w/ the dealer cost for the basic vehicle & for each option. It usually takes three sessions, with me walking out the first two times, then the salesperson finally coming to grips with the fact that if he wants to make a sale, that he's going to have to come *way* down in price (to ~$200 - 400 over dealer cost). Otherwise, he realizes I'm going to walk, yet again. Cathy "Cathy F." ... > "chasfs" <chasfs@yahoo.com> ... >>I recently bought a 2007 RAV4 and, to make a long story short, decided [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Cathy Absolutely - sites like www.edmunds.com is great for getting the real scoop on a car, BTW. Natalie > "Cathy F." ... >> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Absolutely - sites like www.edmunds.com is great for getting the real > scoop on a car, BTW. Yep, I've used them, combined w/the Consumer reports print-out ($12), & the Kelley site. Cathy > Natalie >> "Cathy F." ... >>> [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Cathy I just buy Toyotas... >> Natalie SignaturePan Newsreader 0.120 (Plate of Shrimp) Feisty-Fawn (Ubuntu 7.0) |
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