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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / February 2007Celica DRL and Auto Headlights
Hey everybody. I just bought an 04 Celica GTS. I really, really hate the DRL and auto headlights. I did a Google search online which shows how to disable them for other Toyotas but couldnt find one specifically for the Celica. Has anyone found such a website?. The best ones are the ones with pictures on them and not just diagrams. TIA Bobby Jr. > Hey everybody. I just bought an 04 Celica GTS. I really, really hate > the DRL and auto headlights. I did a Google search online which shows [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Bobby Jr. If you have difficulty following diagrams and need pictures, then I recommend that you hire a competent technician to disable the DRL's for you and avoid creating other problems. The auto headlights are easy to get around - turn the headlight switch to the off position to turn the headlamps off and turn them to the on position to turn them on.  SignatureRay O (correct punctuation to reply) >> Hey everybody. I just bought an 04 Celica GTS. I really, really hate >> the DRL and auto headlights. I did a Google search online which shows [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > get around - turn the headlight switch to the off position to turn the > headlamps off and turn them to the on position to turn them on. Ray, why do you enable irresponsible a.sholes like him? >>> Hey everybody. I just bought an 04 Celica GTS. I really, really hate >>> the DRL and auto headlights. I did a Google search online which shows [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Ray, why do you enable irresponsible a.sholes like him? I try not to pass judgment and just answer people's questions. ;-) SignatureRay O (correct punctuation to reply) >> Hey everybody. I just bought an 04 Celica GTS. I really, really hate >> the DRL and auto headlights. I did a Google search online which shows [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >around - turn the headlight switch to the off position to turn the headlamps >off and turn them to the on position to turn them on. I'm a visual person and would prefer pictures. Anything wrong with asking if anyone has them? I'm a decent mechanic once I know how to do it. This is just the first car I've had that has DRLs so this is a new technology for me. When it's mechanical, I'm not too concerned but when it's electronic, I like being extra careful. You can't blame me for that can you? >>> Hey everybody. I just bought an 04 Celica GTS. I really, really hate >>> the DRL and auto headlights. I did a Google search online which shows [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > but when it's electronic, I like being extra careful. You can't blame > me for that can you? Nothing wrong with asking if anyone has pictures. Toyota technical publications rarely, if ever, include pictures, especially for electrical components and operations. An electrical wiring diagram provides much more information than pictures can. A problem with using pictures for electrical wiring is that wire colors and tracers do not show up well in pictures, especially if the wires are in a bundle with other wires, and pictures do not show the wire functions. For example, a brown wire with a green tracer would be difficult to differentiate from a black wire with a blue tracer, and there is no way to tell whether the wire is hot all the time, hot under certain conditions, or grounded. You may get lucky and find someone who has taken their own pictures and posted them on a web site, but I don't think the pictures will be very helpful. I agree that you should be extra careful when dealing with electrical systems. Many do-it-yourselfers and incompetent aftermarket shops cause lots of electrical problems. IMO, the problems arise because people are working without a clear understanding of electrical principles and how the system they are working on operates, and pictures do not provide enough of an explanation or understanding to make a difference. If you have an interest in learning more about how automotive systems operate, like what open and closed loop mean, or the principles behind the electrical systems like how relays and sensors operate, you may wish to take evening classes at your local high school or community college. Even if you understand the mechanical aspects of a car, so many systems are controlled or monitored by electronics that a basic understanding of electronics is needed to diagnose and service cars. I won't get into the pros and cons of DRL's here - a little searching will turn up thousands of posts from people who are knowledgeable and not so knowledgeable about the subject. ;-) SignatureRay O (correct punctuation to reply) >>>> Hey everybody. I just bought an 04 Celica GTS. I really, really hate >>>> the DRL and auto headlights. I did a Google search online which shows [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] >turn up thousands of posts from people who are knowledgeable and not so >knowledgeable about the subject. ;-) Thanks. I do know the pros and cons of DRL. I think anyone for or against it will agree that as I long as I use the light switch correctly, DRLs won't do me any more good. <snipped> > Thanks. I do know the pros and cons of DRL. I think anyone for or > against it will agree that as I long as I use the light switch > correctly, DRLs won't do me any more good. Read the directions all the way through and make sure you understand each step. If you have a question about the directions, feel free to ask - before you snip the wires! You don't want to end up in a situation in M*A*S*H where they were trying to diffuse a bomb - "cut the red wire... but first cut the blue wire!" SignatureRay O (correct punctuation to reply) >>>>> Hey everybody. I just bought an 04 Celica GTS. I really, really hate >>>>> the DRL and auto headlights. I did a Google search online which shows [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > against it will agree that as I long as I use the light switch > correctly, DRLs won't do me any more good. Long before DRL's came along, I started turning my head and taillights on....DAY and night. Whenever the car was in motion. > Long before DRL's came along, I started turning my head and taillights > on....DAY and night. Whenever the car was in motion. Good for you :) Shame all the research supporting DRLs is from arctic circle coutries (with 24hour lowlight/darkness for 6 months a year) or based on fleet data (which in itself isnt exactly a fair test when comparing to personal transport) compared to past fleet data from years back. No-one yet has carried out a parallel study of sensible length, with identical vehicles in the same area over a statistically significant number of vehicles - they're just piecing their data together from existing records, or in significantly different situations. Theres a reason there is complete dissagreement between countries official policies on this, its because some are willing to take advice on its face and others look at it sensibly. When that happens and proves it I'll convert, until then I'll use my common sense as to when lights need to be put on. Apart from anything I also ride a pedal cycle regularly on a long commute. I wonder how long it will take to realise that as soon as people get used to all moving vehicles having lights on even during the day, how long before pedal bikes which cant carry 100w of lights around and pedestrians end up being hit. If we all just used our eyes a little more the increase in safety across the board would outweigh the effect of almost every technological safety device. >> Long before DRL's came along, I started turning my head and taillights >> on....DAY and night. Whenever the car was in motion. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > the board would outweigh the effect of almost every technological safety > device. Well, of course, commonsense is recommended. However, common sense is VERY uncommon. On the highway, I can see an approaching vehicle having DRL's or headlights on, a LOT further away. On a single lane (each direction) road that makes passing a whole lot safer...easier to judge distance. > Well, of course, commonsense is recommended. However, common sense is > VERY uncommon. On the highway, I can see an approaching vehicle having > DRL's or headlights on, a LOT further away. On a single lane (each > direction) road that makes passing a whole lot safer...easier to judge > distance. As long as the DRLs are not high beam ones. If they are high beams one cannot even look at them to judge anything at all. Tomes >. On the highway, I can see an approaching vehicle having DRL's or >headlights on, a LOT further away. On a single lane (each direction) road >that makes passing a whole lot safer...easier to judge distance. Do you think? I've never noticed any difference. I suppose two converging light sources may indeed be easier for stereo vision to determine distance from in theory, but then i dont have a problem making out the headlights when they're off and two converging reflective items. Maybe for someone with sub-standard eyesight it may make it a tad easier to determine but IME i see no difference. > Hey everybody. I just bought an 04 Celica GTS. I really, really hate > the DRL and auto headlights. I did a Google search online which shows [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Bobby Jr. Irresponsible a.sholes like you cause accidents. By putting YOUR vehicle into "stealth" mode, it increases the chances that pedestrians and other motorists won't see it. > Irresponsible a.sholes like you cause accidents. By putting YOUR vehicle > into "stealth" mode, it increases the chances that pedestrians and other > motorists won't see it. Maybe he doesnt like the fact that forcing everyone in the US to have them on would cause ~4million extra tons of CO2 usage per year alone? I personally have yet to be shown any evidence that proves its any safer - IMO its not easier to see a car with lights on in the daylight than it is with them off. Maybe people should simply drive more carefully instead of constantly trying to create new "safety" features to take away their responsibility? If it was that much of a difference in accident rate with them on full-time a) it would have been introduced earlier and b) it'd be retro-fitted to cars much like seatbelts are these days in the UK. Much like in a few places where they've completely removed all road signage and found the area got massively safer because people had to slow down to know what was going on around them and take more care of their actions. But all thats a whole other can of worms. >> Irresponsible a.sholes like you cause accidents. By putting YOUR vehicle >> into "stealth" mode, it increases the chances that pedestrians and other [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >But all thats a whole other can of worms. Maybe he hasn't gotten laid in a while. Let's cut him some slack. >> Hey everybody. I just bought an 04 Celica GTS. I really, really hate >> the DRL and auto headlights. I did a Google search online which shows [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >into "stealth" mode, it increases the chances that pedestrians and other >motorists won't see it. What's with the hostility buddy? I live in Florida where DRLs are useless. At night, I know how to turn the lights on myself. What's with the "stealth mode" that you're talking about? There might be idiots out there that need to have things done for them. I can do them myself thank you. >> Hey everybody. I just bought an 04 Celica GTS. I really, really hate >> the DRL and auto headlights. I did a Google search online which shows [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > into "stealth" mode, it increases the chances that pedestrians and other > motorists won't see it. C'mon, Sharx! Don't hold back! Tell him how you *REALLY* feel! >>> Hey everybody. I just bought an 04 Celica GTS. I really, really hate >>> the DRL and auto headlights. I did a Google search online which shows [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > C'mon, Sharx! Don't hold back! Tell him how you *REALLY* feel! Up here, we have many idiots who drive around at NIGHT with NO lights on....using just the ambient street lighting. Granted, some of them are drunk or stoned. >>>> Hey everybody. I just bought an 04 Celica GTS. I really, really hate >>>> the DRL and auto headlights. I did a Google search online which shows [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > on....using just the ambient street lighting. Granted, some of them are > drunk or stoned. I thought all cars since 1988 had DRLs up there! The can't be THAT many Acadians left! >>>>> Hey everybody. I just bought an 04 Celica GTS. I really, really hate >>>>> the DRL and auto headlights. I did a Google search online which shows [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > I thought all cars since 1988 had DRLs up there! The can't be THAT many > Acadians left! There are lots of idiots up here, still locked into the adolescent greaser stage, who disable any safety device they can. >>>>>> Hey everybody. I just bought an 04 Celica GTS. I really, really hate >>>>>> the DRL and auto headlights. I did a Google search online which shows [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >There are lots of idiots up here, still locked into the adolescent greaser >stage, who disable any safety device they can. Hey, if the OP is bound and determined to disable the DRL's, he'll do it one way or the other. My only request would be to put a switch on that wire you plan to cut, so they can be /selectively/ disabled or enabled as needed. There are a few select times that disabling them makes sense, like if your alternator fails and you need to shed as much load as possible to get home. Or at a drive-in theatre (if you can even find one anymore) or approaching the guard gate at a military base. (But even they understand the problem with turning off DRL's, so if you aren't brighting them and approaching at a high rate of speed, they aren't likely to shoot first and ask questions later. You hope.) Besides, if they are required by law, the local constabulary can easily issue him a traffic ticket for inoperable DRL's, which should be enough incentive to not do it. --<< Bruce >>-- >>>>>>> Hey everybody. I just bought an 04 Celica GTS. I really, really >>>>>>> hate [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > to get home. Or at a drive-in theatre (if you can even find one > anymore) or approaching the guard gate at a military base. What percentage of REAL life driving would the above scenarios constitute? .0001 per cent? > (But even they understand the problem with turning off DRL's, so if > you aren't brighting them and approaching at a high rate of speed, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > --<< Bruce >>-- >>>>>> Hey everybody. I just bought an 04 Celica GTS. I really, really hate >>>>>> the DRL and auto headlights. I did a Google search online which shows [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >There are lots of idiots up here, still locked into the adolescent greaser >stage, who disable any safety device they can. Hey Sharx, Have you got any idea how I can remove my lap and shoulder seatbelts? Thanks for your info on how to disable my DRL, I've been able to get 4 pedestrians so far. Damn air bag needs to be taken out too. Why should I pay for gas to haul it around? --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000716-0, 02/22/2007 Tested on: 2/22/2007 2:39:11 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com >>>>>>> Hey everybody. I just bought an 04 Celica GTS. I really, really >>>>>>> hate [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Have you got any idea how I can remove my lap and shoulder seatbelts? Yes, a sharp Exacto knife, perhaps. Once the belts are gone, use it on your minuscule balls. > Thanks for your info on how to disable my DRL, I've been able to get 4 > pedestrians so far. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com >Hey everybody. I just bought an 04 Celica GTS. I really, really hate >the DRL and auto headlights. I did a Google search online which shows [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Bobby Jr. Man!!! This Toyota newsgroup isn't as nice as the Honda one where people actually offer answers rather than attacks. If you can help guys, thanks. If you don't have an answer, thanks for your silence. Bobby Jr. > Man!!! This Toyota newsgroup isn't as nice as the Honda one where > people actually offer answers rather than attacks. If you can help > guys, thanks. If you don't have an answer, thanks for your silence. It's not personal. The prat who calls himself sharkwhatever is a well known bucketmouth with no graces at all. Ignore him. Ray O is a helpful and knowledgeable bod; if he seemed abraisive it was an illusion. He likely interpreted your messages as from someone without a clue. Try him again and pretend you started off well. (We get a number of pushy creeps who come in claiming competences in this'n'that, so there's a "recognition period", as in any NG.) SignatureAndrew Stephenson "Andrew Stephenson" <ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk> wrote in message > It's not personal. The prat who calls himself sharkwhatever is a > well known bucketmouth with no graces at all. Ignore him. Ray O > is a helpful and knowledgeable bod; if he seemed abraisive it was [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > (We get a number of pushy creeps who come in claiming competences > in this'n'that, so there's a "recognition period", as in any NG.) Nicely put. >> Man!!! This Toyota newsgroup isn't as nice as the Honda one where >> people actually offer answers rather than attacks. If you can help [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > (We get a number of pushy creeps who come in claiming competences > in this'n'that, so there's a "recognition period", as in any NG.) We also have Brit faggots like Andrew. >> Man!!! This Toyota newsgroup isn't as nice as the Honda one where >> people actually offer answers rather than attacks. If you can help [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >(We get a number of pushy creeps who come in claiming competences >in this'n'that, so there's a "recognition period", as in any NG.) Thanks. I appreciate that. >>Hey everybody. I just bought an 04 Celica GTS. I really, really hate >>the DRL and auto headlights. I did a Google search online which shows [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Bobby Jr. Hey, Bobby...don't take it personally...Sharx lets us ALL have it at times! I can't really help you with your problem, but I can substantiate that DRL's can be a PITA. I have a friend that bought an '04 Corolla recently, and her complaint was that at night, the lights were on but the dash was dark. The DRL's were so bright that when they came on, she forgot to turn on the headlights. Her husband asked me the same question, so if you find an answer elsewhere, post it here, please! >>>Hey everybody. I just bought an 04 Celica GTS. I really, really hate >>>the DRL and auto headlights. I did a Google search online which shows [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > husband asked me the same question, so if you find an answer elsewhere, > post it here, please! If idiots didn't drive the problem would be solved. I've seen idiots not knowing about the dashboard light dimmer knob. And they DRIVE???!!??? >>>>Hey everybody. I just bought an 04 Celica GTS. I really, really hate >>>>the DRL and auto headlights. I did a Google search online which shows [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > If idiots didn't drive the problem would be solved. I've seen idiots not > knowing about the dashboard light dimmer knob. And they DRIVE???!!??? My Good Nature won out this afternoon; that and the fact that it was probably someone's Grandmother... She was going around the damn parking lot AGAINST the arrows...I was coming down one lane and she was coming around the corner. I had to get so close to one car to get out of her way it's a good thing either car didn't have just ONE MORE coat of paint!. So, I turn right, and start going UP the next row...and she's coming down! I parked my car and went into the store. I did my shopping and came out...and she was just locking up her car...one row further yet, and you could tell by the crazy angle she was parked that she had been going the wrong way yet AGAIN and had to crank the wheel against the stop to get into the space. I thought the better of it and just got in my car and left, hoping we never cross paths again... On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:16:59 GMT, Hachiroku +O+A+m+/ <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote: >>>Hey everybody. I just bought an 04 Celica GTS. I really, really hate >>>the DRL and auto headlights. I did a Google search online which shows [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >I can't really help you with your problem, but I can substantiate that >DRL's can be a PITA. >I have a friend that bought an '04 Corolla recently, and her complaint was >that at night, the lights were on but the dash was dark. The DRL's were so >bright that when they came on, she forgot to turn on the headlights. Her >husband asked me the same question, so if you find an answer elsewhere, >post it here, please! Will do. So far though, I've found diagrams but no pictures. I think I can do it with those. I just wanna make sure I don't screw it up. Electrical problems are the worst ones. As your expression goes, a real PITA (if I screw it up). Thanks, dude. > On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:16:59 GMT, Hachiroku +O+A+m+/ > <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Electrical problems are the worst ones. As your expression goes, a > real PITA (if I screw it up). Thanks, dude. Why not just LEAVE the wiring the way that the manufacturer made it? Maybe THEY know more than YOU about such things. > Man!!! This Toyota newsgroup isn't as nice as the Honda one where > people actually offer answers rather than attacks. If you can help > guys, thanks. If you don't have an answer, thanks for your silence. > > Bobby Jr. It's really just the one guy, Bobby. RayO knows what he is talking about and talks straight. I don't know how to do what you want to do, but I take a slightly different approach. Both of my Toyotas (a 98 and a 2007) have a third setting that turns on the LOW BEAMS and the tail lights (the regular lights) when the key is turned on and turns them off when you turn the key off and open the driver's door. This is what I do and I am happy with it this way. If you don't want the lights on at all during the day then this would not be for you. Hope this might help. Tomes >>Hey everybody. I just bought an 04 Celica GTS. I really, really hate >>the DRL and auto headlights. I did a Google search online which shows [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Bobby Jr. Anyone stupid enough to buy Honda needs ALL the help they can get. Ricers. |
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