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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / February 2007

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Trading like model car for different color

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Seerialmom - 24 Feb 2007 19:44 GMT
Just wondering if anyone has managed to do this without having to
cough up additional major bucks?  Let's say the local dealer has the
same model Yaris on his lot; perhaps it was a daily rental and has
close to the same mileage as mine.  Similar features; just the color I
want (mine is red, I'd prefer dark blue).  Is it a major hassle to
trade?  Or should I just wait 2 more years and "trade up" and get the
color I want then (I was desperate to buy before the registration on
my Festiva expired...otherwise I would have waited until a color I
wanted was available).
Mike Hunter - 24 Feb 2007 20:32 GMT
You are kidding, right?

mike

> Just wondering if anyone has managed to do this without having to
> cough up additional major bucks?  Let's say the local dealer has the
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> my Festiva expired...otherwise I would have waited until a color I
> wanted was available).
Seerialmom - 24 Feb 2007 20:46 GMT
> You are kidding, right?
>
> mike

Why would that be kidding?  I bought the car 7 months ago...not crazy
about the color "red"...I'd prefer a different a color like "blue".
So the question is whether or not dealers (let's say the one I bought
from) would trade mine for one they have on their lot with similar
features/mileage.  I realize they're in business to "sell" cars; but
perhaps they have 2 customers just chomping at the bit to buy a red
Yaris.
Ralph Mowery - 24 Feb 2007 21:35 GMT
>> You are kidding, right?
>>
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> perhaps they have 2 customers just chomping at the bit to buy a red
> Yaris.

I doubt he is kidding.  I worked with a guy that was about 50 years old and
his wife was about the same age.  They bought a new car, got home and his
wife just then noticed that it had a brown interior.  She said the last car
they had was brown inside and she wanted another color.  They turned around
and drove back to the dealer and got a car like it with a differant color.
Atleast it did not cost them anything to do that as it was a new car and
they only put about 15 miles on it.
I can see how after several months one could get tired of a color.

Not throwing off on the origional plster, but the man and woman above were a
couple of nut cases anyway.  They were always doing 'funny' things.
Man called his wife from work and had to ask her if he needed a haircut.
Now just how was she suspose to know what his hair looked like over the
phone ?
Jeff - 25 Feb 2007 03:32 GMT
<...>

> Not throwing off on the origional plster, but the man and woman above were
> a couple of nut cases anyway.  They were always doing 'funny' things.
> Man called his wife from work and had to ask her if he needed a haircut.
> Now just how was she suspose to know what his hair looked like over the
> phone ?

Gee, maybe they look at each other in the morning or during the day or
evening.

Sometimes couples are weird like that.

Jeff
Jeff - 25 Feb 2007 03:36 GMT
>> You are kidding, right?
>>
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> perhaps they have 2 customers just chomping at the bit to buy a red
> Yaris.

I agree with Mike. Not only does the dealer have paperwork and there are
registration fees to be paid, but the dealer has to inspect and clean the
car. And the dealer has to wonder and check for something wrong with the car
or some damage. And the dealer would want to make a profit off the deal.
That's what they are in business for.

Jeff
Art - 24 Feb 2007 20:56 GMT
A dealer does not do a transaction unless he is making a lot of money on it.
Wear blue tinted glasses.

> Just wondering if anyone has managed to do this without having to
> cough up additional major bucks?  Let's say the local dealer has the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> my Festiva expired...otherwise I would have waited until a color I
> wanted was available).
Seerialmom - 24 Feb 2007 21:23 GMT
> A dealer does not do a transaction unless he is making a lot of money on it.
> Wear blue tinted glasses.

Oh well...it was just an idea.  I suspected that would be the case but
didn't think it'd hurt to consider it.
quietguy - 26 Feb 2007 00:20 GMT
Why not just get a new paint job?

Should be a lot less (maybe just a grand or so) than what the dealer would charge
for a changeover

David - who wonders who would even consider changing a one owner car for an
ex-rental car

> > A dealer does not do a transaction unless he is making a lot of money on it.
> > Wear blue tinted glasses.
>
> Oh well...it was just an idea.  I suspected that would be the case but
> didn't think it'd hurt to consider it.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 26 Feb 2007 03:07 GMT
> Why not just get a new paint job?
>
> Should be a lot less (maybe just a grand or so) than what the dealer would
> charge for a changeover

To paint a car with good paint?! Try $2500-3200, to get almost as good a
finish as the one you're covering!

And bear in mind, if you get a cheapie, when you open the door, the jambs
will be red. When you open the hood the inside of the hood will be red.
When you go to trade the car, the guy looking at the trade for evaluation
will wonder *WTF*...he didn't like the color...right...and knock at least
$750 off for the repaint, more realistically $2000 suspecting an accident,
no matter WHAT you tell him! That makes the cost $3250-5200 for the
repaint!

Even doing it right there will be a lot of traces of red paint all over
the place. You can paint the inside of the hood, and TRY to do your best
on the engine compartment, but you're not going to get it all. The hatch
will have to be taken apart, as will the doors.

This is MUCH more trouble than it's worth! My advice to the OP is to take
a chance, call around to the dealers and see if you can get an even swap.
They may just have a customer holding out for a red one with low mileage
and would be willing to make a swap!

> David - who wonders who would even consider changing a one owner car for
> an ex-rental car
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>> Oh well...it was just an idea.  I suspected that would be the case but
>> didn't think it'd hurt to consider it.
Bonehenge - 24 Feb 2007 23:04 GMT
>A dealer does not do a transaction unless he is making a lot of money on it.
>Wear blue tinted glasses.

Think of the following:

Car Dealer = business

Buy = wholesale

Sell = retail

Kabeesh?
Jeff - 25 Feb 2007 14:52 GMT
Just get it painted. It will be cheaper.

Jeff
mack - 25 Feb 2007 18:33 GMT
> Just get it painted. It will be cheaper.
>
> Jeff

Now that is the WORST idea of all.   Repainting a car is not a good idea
unless the original color is so faded and full of scratches that it looks
disreputable, and painting a car a different color is a disaster, unless
your take the damn thing apart and paint it in all the places that never
show, like the inside of the hood and trunk, door jambs, etc.   and it costs
a fortune.
Better to decide you really like 'red'.   Or keep it a couple of years.
People are funny about buying cars.  I saw, a decade ago, while I was
purchasing a used Camry, a Ford Taurus in the shop of a GM dealer, which the
salesman pointed out. He said "look at the mileage" ...it was under 500
miles.  When I questioned him as to why it was a trade-in, he said that an
elderly couple had been looking at a Buick Century (small) but then bought
the Taurus elsewhere.  In less than 500 miles, they found that the Taurus
was too big, hard to park, etc. so they traded it in for the Buick which
they had liked in the first place.
As the salesman said wryly, it was the most expensive 500 miles they ever
drove.
sharx35 - 25 Feb 2007 18:33 GMT
> Just get it painted. It will be cheaper.
>
> Jeff

Agreed. What kind of idiot would just trade a car on account of colour?
Jeff Strickland - 26 Feb 2007 00:41 GMT
He opens his doors each day expecting to make enough money to cover the
costs. He isn't likely to trade his car for yours without a significant
contribution from your checkbook.

> Just wondering if anyone has managed to do this without having to
> cough up additional major bucks?  Let's say the local dealer has the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> my Festiva expired...otherwise I would have waited until a color I
> wanted was available).
 
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