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Mama Bear - 26 Feb 2007 19:56 GMT
Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was thinking
more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that much?!

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Ray O - 26 Feb 2007 20:40 GMT
> Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was thinking
> more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that much?!

The cost of valve adjustment depends on the prevailing labor rates in the
area, the number of valves, the method for adjusting valve lash, and how
much time it takes to access the valves.

The Corolla has shim type valve adjustment, and if the valves are not
making noise, I wouldn't bother unless you are going to keep the car for
over 300,000 miles.
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Mama Bear - 27 Feb 2007 04:54 GMT
"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom>  wrote :

>> Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was
>> thinking more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that much?!
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> making noise, I wouldn't bother unless you are going to keep the car
> for over 300,000 miles.

The reason I'm concerned is because I have 142,000 on it now and there
seems to be a little clackety noise from them.

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Ray O - 27 Feb 2007 05:02 GMT
> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom>  wrote :
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> The reason I'm concerned is because I have 142,000 on it now and there
> seems to be a little clackety noise from them.

I would have someone who is knowledgeable about your Corolla listen to the
engine first.  Some year Corollas have a fairly noisy valve train.
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Mama Bear - 27 Feb 2007 06:24 GMT
"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom>  wrote :

> I would have someone who is knowledgeable about your Corolla listen
> to the engine first.  Some year Corollas have a fairly noisy valve
> train.

Oh ok. I also wasn't aware about the shim type valves lasting so long.

I've changed the oil every 3000 miles since getting the car at 45,000 when
it was barely out of warranty.

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Ray O - 27 Feb 2007 16:39 GMT
> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom>  wrote :
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> I've changed the oil every 3000 miles since getting the car at 45,000 when
> it was barely out of warranty.

I'd spend that money on snow tires instead of a valve lash adjustment ;-)
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Mama Bear - 27 Feb 2007 23:32 GMT
"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom>  wrote :

>> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom>  wrote :
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> I'd spend that money on snow tires instead of a valve lash adjustment
> ;-)

Now now. :)

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Jeff - 26 Feb 2007 21:47 GMT
> Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was thinking
> more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that much?!

A valve adjustment on what vehicle? What did they bill you for (I mean what
parts)?

Jeff
Mama Bear - 27 Feb 2007 05:09 GMT
"Jeff" <news@googlemail.com>  wrote :

>> Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was
>> thinking more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that much?!
>
> A valve adjustment on what vehicle? What did they bill you for (I
> mean what parts)?

I was just checking pricing, haven't done it yet.

93 Corolla 1.8 liter EFI.

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Tegger - 27 Feb 2007 02:25 GMT
> Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was
> thinking more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that much?!

Who said you need one?

Shim-type valve adjustments last practically forever if you change your oil
frequently. But they take forever to adjust if you do in fact need
adjustment done, hence the cost.

Your $75 price would be in line for locknut-type adjusters. We're going
back to 1982 for that though...

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Mama Bear - 27 Feb 2007 05:13 GMT
Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m>  wrote :

>> Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was
>> thinking more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that much?!
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Your $75 price would be in line for locknut-type adjusters. We're
> going back to 1982 for that though...

Ok, I guess I don't know what's involved.

It's a 93 Corolla 1.8 liter EFI.

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Jeff - 27 Feb 2007 13:23 GMT
> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m>  wrote :
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>
> It's a 93 Corolla 1.8 liter EFI.

Go to a different mechanic and get a second opinion.

Jeff
JoeSpareBedroom - 27 Feb 2007 13:39 GMT
>> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m>  wrote :
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>
> Jeff

I have absolutely NO idea if this relates at all, but when my '82 Tercel had
180k miles, my mechanic finished an oil change and commented that the engine
sounded so quiet that it seemed weird for a car with so many miles. For his
own amusement (and no charge to me), he checked the compression and said it
was damned near perfect, according to specs for a new engine.
Mark - 27 Feb 2007 14:07 GMT
Rest assured that compression has nothing at all to do with valve
adjustment Joe.  Who told you that, the guys from Car Talk?

> >> Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m>  wrote :
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JoeSpareBedroom - 27 Feb 2007 14:09 GMT
Nope. Just a thought.

> Rest assured that compression has nothing at all to do with valve
> adjustment Joe.  Who told you that, the guys from Car Talk?
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Mama Bear - 27 Feb 2007 23:31 GMT
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com>  wrote :

>>> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m>  wrote :
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> he checked the compression and said it was damned near perfect,
> according to specs for a new engine.

This engine still passes emissions tests with about half, or less, of
the allowed emissions.

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JoeSpareBedroom - 28 Feb 2007 02:55 GMT
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com>  wrote :
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> the allowed emissions.
> - Mama Bear

Amazing, isn't it? Meanwhile, drive behind a 5 year old Chrysler mini-van,
and you need to wear a haz-mat suit. :-)  Do you know that in the U.S.,
Chrysler & Ford use much of the same machining equipment as Toyota's
American factories? The American manufacturers program the equipment to
produce a lower quality chunk of metal.
Mama Bear - 27 Feb 2007 23:30 GMT
"Jeff" <news@googlemail.com>  wrote :

>> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m>  wrote :
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>
> Go to a different mechanic and get a second opinion.

Well if like some people said here, it depends on some kind of shim
system, it may indeed take 3 hours to do it. And it may not really need
it. These valves may have been clackety from the start, I don't recall.

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dizzy - 28 Feb 2007 00:50 GMT
>Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was thinking
>more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that much?!

LOL  I get oil changes that are $75.

Idiot.
Tegger - 28 Feb 2007 01:50 GMT
>>Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was
>>thinking more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that much?!
>
> LOL  I get oil changes that are $75.
>
> Idiot.

Your oil changes are $75? Who's the idiot here?

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Mama Bear - 03 Mar 2007 03:42 GMT
Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m>  wrote :

>>>Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was
>>>thinking more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that much?!
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Your oil changes are $75? Who's the idiot here?

LOL!

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Ray O - 28 Feb 2007 06:43 GMT
>>Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was thinking
>>more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that much?!
>
> LOL  I get oil changes that are $75.
>
> Idiot.

Dizzy,

I'll change your oil with up to 6 quarts of API SM oil and OEM, Mobil 1, or
Farm oil filters, inspect  your air filter, check your automatic
transmission fluid, and adjust the air pressure in your tires for $70. ;-)
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Mama Bear - 03 Mar 2007 03:43 GMT
"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom>  wrote :

>>>Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was
>>>thinking more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that much?!
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> automatic transmission fluid, and adjust the air pressure in your
> tires for $70. ;-)

Even Midas here, does oil and filter changes for $20, and $15 if you buy
a punch card for 6 of them.

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aarcuda69062 - 03 Mar 2007 14:53 GMT
> Even Midas here, does oil and filter changes for $20, and $15 if you buy
> a punch card for 6 of them.

It's called a "loss leader."
Meant to lure you in so they can up-sell you other services
(aka; a wallet flush) that you probably don't need.
Mama Bear - 03 Mar 2007 03:42 GMT
dizzy <dizzy@nospam.invalid>  wrote :

>>Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was
>>thinking more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that much?!
>
> LOL  I get oil changes that are $75.
>
> Idiot.

Who's the idiot? LOL! I get oil changes that are $20.

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Cathy F. - 03 Mar 2007 03:44 GMT
>>Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was thinking
>>more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that much?!
>
> LOL  I get oil changes that are $75.
>
> Idiot.

You pay $75 for an *oil change*?  Why??

Cathy
Mama Bear - 03 Mar 2007 03:57 GMT
"Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net>  wrote :

>>>Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was
>>>thinking more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that much?!
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> You pay $75 for an *oil change*?  Why??

Sounds like NY or CA. :)

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Cathy F. - 03 Mar 2007 04:13 GMT
> "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net>  wrote :
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>
> Sounds like NY or CA. :)

*I* live in NY, & I pay nowhere near $75 for an oil/filter change.

Cathy
Mama Bear - 03 Mar 2007 04:30 GMT
"Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net>  wrote :

>> "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net>  wrote :
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>
> Cathy

I mean, if I really wanted to, I COULD, but I'd have more money than
sense if I did. :)

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sharx35 - 03 Mar 2007 23:23 GMT
> "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net>  wrote :
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> I mean, if I really wanted to, I COULD, but I'd have more money than
> sense if I did. :)

If one has MONEY sense, they did NOT vote DEMONrat.
JoeSpareBedroom - 03 Mar 2007 12:27 GMT
>> "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net>  wrote :
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>
> Cathy

Rochester: If you're stupid, you can get oil & filter for $15-$20 (Jiffy
Bone, etc). Decent mechanic: $25-$30.
sharx35 - 03 Mar 2007 23:22 GMT
>>>Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was
>>>thinking
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>
> Cathy

You've obviously never heard of HIGH quality, non-adulterated synthetic oil.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 03 Mar 2007 04:30 GMT
>>Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was
>>thinking more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that much?!
>
> LOL  I get oil changes that are $75.

What the hell are you changing that costs $75?!?!?!

> Idiot.
 
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