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Ray O
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>>I purchased an 06 Sienna in May of 06 ($18,888net) - thinking I was
>> paying a 1k premium by not waiting until Nov or Dec of 06. The fact
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>1) You are a really good negotiator.
I only looked for advertised specials - for as is (new veh) color etc.
In the SW there is NO negotiation down from that price - anywhere. I
checked very carefully.
>2) There may have been a price increase around or after the time you bought
>your Sienna. You can tell pricing levels for a particular vehicle by
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>was priced at the introductory price for that model year. A model 5326B
>would be the first price increase during a model year.
Good to know.
>3) Your van is an unpopular color or has an unpopular equipment mix so you
>got a great deal on it.
Just the standard most popular shade of silver - to get price one
takes what they have.
>4) Consumer demand for Siennas exceeded or matched availability at the end
>of the model year so there was little discounting going on.
T did increase the rebate by $500 but the net prices stayed the same
or went up.
>5) The prices you see in the paper are advertised prices, not negotiated
>prices.
If one insist that they honor what they advertise - perhaps make them
an offer they can't refuse - like lawsuit/publicity of the nasty kind
- then after about 2-3 hours the 'scum' will give up and accept your
cash and let you have your new wheels at the advertised price.
It really is disgusting to deal with that kind of low-life. I just do
not understand why the public 'just love the shopping experience.
Ray O - 03 Mar 2007 04:51 GMT
>>>I purchased an 06 Sienna in May of 06 ($18,888net) - thinking I was
>>> paying a 1k premium by not waiting until Nov or Dec of 06. The fact
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> Just the standard most popular shade of silver - to get price one
> takes what they have.
Another possible situation is that a dealer has too many of one color. If
he has 30 silver Siennas and no other colors, they are a little harder to
unload.
>>4) Consumer demand for Siennas exceeded or matched availability at the end
>>of the model year so there was little discounting going on.
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> It really is disgusting to deal with that kind of low-life. I just do
> not understand why the public 'just love the shopping experience.
Threatening dealerships with lawsuits does not scare them. They are
generally aware of laws and what they can and cannot do. To get a deal,
walk out and wait for them to call. ;-)

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Joe Lauton - 03 Mar 2007 17:56 GMT
>>>>I purchased an 06 Sienna in May of 06 ($18,888net) - thinking I was
>>>> paying a 1k premium by not waiting until Nov or Dec of 06. The fact
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>generally aware of laws and what they can and cannot do. To get a deal,
>walk out and wait for them to call. ;-)
These people truly do not care - even about lawsuits. They do care
about bad publicity and being inconvenienced. (My background is in
environmental matters negotiating with civil servants.) These
specials as a rule would 'evaporate' within minutes or an hour at
most. So one gets the paper early and start auto-re dialing them 10
min before opening time and ask if they actually have the car and if
they take check. I had them fax me the total amount "so I would know
the exact amount of the check." That check SAVED MY a.s in that I had
written evidence of the "contract"...
jl