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{OT:} Mitt's Heathcare plan...

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Hachiroku ハチロク - 04 Mar 2007 15:47 GMT
Since I am unemployed, I was looking forward to the new Massachusetts
"Coverage For All" plan to kick in. Then I found out what it is...

Here's the deal. I have until June 1 to find healthcare coverage for
myself. Now, since I am a white guy and do not have an Hispanic last name,
I have NEVER qualified for MassHealth (a free or sliding-scale healthplan
offered by Mass through...BLUE CROSS!!! It's better than a lot of private
plans!!!) so often when unemployed I have had to use the ER (that makes
sense...instead of providing healthcare to your citizens that will cost
$40 per visit, you cover them at $250 per 'visit'...wonder why the state's
broke?). So, I have to locate my own heathcare insurance. If I don't, next
year on my taxes I will be 'assessed' $80. This then gives me until June
of next year to locate healthcare coverage.

Now, some Ins Companies, at the Commonwealth's 'urging', are offering
coverage for what was supposed to be $280, but will actually be $340 a
month. Now, this isn't bad, but there is a $5,000 deductible and they
don't cover a lot of stuff. I don't spend $5,000 in THREE years up to this
point!!!

So, if I don't have healthcare coverage by June of NEXT year, when I file
my taxes, I will be 'assessed' $4,080, or...$340 for each month without
coverage!

WTF is that?!?! It's not Healthcare Insurance, it's Insurance Healthcare!!!
n5hsr - 04 Mar 2007 16:44 GMT
> Since I am unemployed, I was looking forward to the new Massachusetts
> "Coverage For All" plan to kick in. Then I found out what it is...
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> WTF is that?!?! It's not Healthcare Insurance, it's Insurance
> Healthcare!!!

Figures.  Is Mitt a DemonRat or a RINO?

Charles of Schaumburg
Hachiroku ハチロク - 04 Mar 2007 18:20 GMT
>> Since I am unemployed, I was looking forward to the new Massachusetts
>> "Coverage For All" plan to kick in. Then I found out what it is...
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> Charles of Schaumburg

I guess he's a RINO.
n5hsr - 04 Mar 2007 16:52 GMT
> Since I am unemployed, I was looking forward to the new Massachusetts
> "Coverage For All" plan to kick in. Then I found out what it is...
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> WTF is that?!?! It's not Healthcare Insurance, it's Insurance
> Healthcare!!!

How many Real Republicans are there in Mass?  I know Howie Carr is out of
Boston, that makes 1. . . .

Charles of Schaumburg

(OTOH, how many real republicans are left in Illinois?  Nobody's really sure
anymore.  There are a lot of RINO's like Betty Loren-Maltese (The Maltese
Ugly) and Judy Barr Topinka, but most are running for the corners after
George Ryan got convicted.)
badgolferman - 04 Mar 2007 17:57 GMT
Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B, 3/4/2007,10:47:50 AM, wrote:

> Since I am unemployed, I was looking forward to the new Massachusetts
> "Coverage For All" plan to kick in. Then I found out what it is...
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> WTF is that?!?! It's not Healthcare Insurance, it's Insurance
> Healthcare!!!

Since you are not a liberal who wants the government to do everything
for you why don't you look into buying yourself some short-term
insurance or getting onto a group coverage policy with Aetna?  I just
purchased a 90-day policy with $250 deductible for my wife and kids for
$450 while I am on probation with my new job for 90 days.  Personally I
can receive healthcare if I need it through the VA Hospital but I have
yet to use those services thankfully.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 04 Mar 2007 18:20 GMT
> Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B, 3/4/2007,10:47:50 AM, wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> healthcare if I need it through the VA Hospital but I have yet to use
> those services thankfully.

LOL! Interesting point. Problem is, because of our auto insurance mess
here, either the insurance companies have packed up and moved out or were
told to move out! For example, Allstate told the insurance commission they
didn't want to write auto policies anymore, so the insurance commission
told them, then you aren't writing ANY policies in Mass! So, Allstate is
off the table. State Farm is long gone.

On the other side, I just turned 50, let's see what AARP has to offer. I
know they can't sell car insurance in Mass...
ToMh - 05 Mar 2007 19:43 GMT
On Mar 4, 9:57 am, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> > Since I am unemployed, I was looking forward to the new Massachusetts
> > "Coverage For All" plan to kick in. Then I found out what it is...
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> can receive healthcare if I need it through the VA Hospital but I have
> yet to use those services thankfully.

Since he's a conservative he should just get off his a.s and get a job
that has  good benefits and quit wanting the government to take care
of him! It's obvious he's just a liberal, pansy a.s, lazy, drag on
society.
Of course you'd have no problem using the VA, but it's wrong to expect
other citizens get help in heathcare. God help us if we ever gave help
to person in need. I mean that's just money out of the pockets of
those more deserving folks at Halliburton.

http://iraqforsale.org/
Hachiroku ハチロク - 05 Mar 2007 20:38 GMT
>> Since you are not a liberal who wants the government to do everything
>> for you why don't you look into buying yourself some short-term
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> that has  good benefits and quit wanting the government to take care of
> him! It's obvious he's just a liberal, pansy a.s, lazy, drag on society.

Sure. That's the easy solution...

Remember, I'm 50. They don't WANT to give people my age jobs.
You don't think I'd rather be working than sitting here waiting? I send
out 3-5 resumes a week...over-qualified...we found a closer candidate...
you'd probably be bored doing this...

As far as the Over-qualified (if I had a buck for every time i heard this,
I wouldn't *NEED* a job!!!) and the "you'd be bored..." TRY ME!!!!!!
mark_digital© - 05 Mar 2007 22:24 GMT
>>> Since you are not a liberal who wants the government to do everything
>>> for you why don't you look into buying yourself some short-term
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> As far as the Over-qualified (if I had a buck for every time i heard this,
> I wouldn't *NEED* a job!!!) and the "you'd be bored..." TRY ME!!!!!!

You need to get something to hold you over. I know you're good with
computers (my firewall has a hard time keeping you at bay) and you're a
people person so how about applying at HomeDepot at the service desk? They
sure as hell need somebody that's helpful courteous and kind. I wanted to
pop the bitch behind the counter this afternoon. She mocked me right in
front of my wife. I'll take care of that issue next time I'm there by
myself.
Scott in Florida - 05 Mar 2007 22:47 GMT
>You need to get something to hold you over. I know you're good with
>computers (my firewall has a hard time keeping you at bay) and you're a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>front of my wife. I'll take care of that issue next time I'm there by
>myself.

My sister used to work Corporate Home Depot.  Too bad she started her
own bidness, or we could have taken care of your problem in a way that
a.s hole needed.

She told me that when Home Depot started expanding into the North East
they advertised for people with a 'southern' attitude toward
customers.   I see they have strayed....

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Scott in  Florida

Hachiroku ハチロク - 06 Mar 2007 00:13 GMT
>>>> Since you are not a liberal who wants the government to do everything
>>>> for you why don't you look into buying yourself some short-term
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> front of my wife. I'll take care of that issue next time I'm there by
> myself.

I never tried the Home Depot...Best Buy, Circuit City, etc,
etc...Overqualified...
mark_digital© - 06 Mar 2007 02:34 GMT
>>>>> Since you are not a liberal who wants the government to do everything
>>>>> for you why don't you look into buying yourself some short-term
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> I never tried the Home Depot...Best Buy, Circuit City, etc,
> etc...Overqualified...

I also know  Enterprise is looking for ambitious reliable and trustworthy
people too.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 06 Mar 2007 06:47 GMT
>>>>>> Since you are not a liberal who wants the government to do
>>>>>> everything for you why don't you look into buying yourself some
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> I also know  Enterprise is looking for ambitious reliable and trustworthy
> people too.

Problem is, my Resume. They see Electronics at Hamilton Standard, Tech
Support at GE, and all the computer stuff and I think it makes them
nervous that I'll either get bored or want big $$$. Or stay just long
enough to find another job. I don't play like that. You treat me right and
let me do my work, I'll stay as long as you pay me! 4 Years at one place
when I first started out, 9 at Hamilton, 3.5 at GE (they pulled the plug
on Tech Support and farmed it out)

Unfortunately, since then it's been all downhill. If I apply for tech jobs
I kind of have to put the Heavy Hitters on there, but that's what scares
them...
mark_digital© - 06 Mar 2007 12:29 GMT
>>>>>>> Since you are not a liberal who wants the government to do
>>>>>>> everything for you why don't you look into buying yourself some
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
> I kind of have to put the Heavy Hitters on there, but that's what scares
> them...

I understand. 9 years at HSD. What a commute. I had thought about going
there for it's graphics department (something different for a change).
Hachiroku ハチロク - 06 Mar 2007 16:38 GMT
>>>>>>>> Since you are not a liberal who wants the government to do
>>>>>>>> everything for you why don't you look into buying yourself some
[quoted text clipped - 50 lines]
> I understand. 9 years at HSD. What a commute. I had thought about going
> there for it's graphics department (something different for a change).

I was living in Southwick and driving to Bloomfield working for a MUCH
smaller company. I met me wife there and we got engaged, and they changed
bosses and gave me a REAL PITA, so I went everywhere, and HSD hired me. We
moved to Westfield, and then to Warehouse point (I was putting <19 miles a
day on the Hachiroku). Then we moved to Ware after 2 years. Wanna talk
about commute?!?!
mark_digital© - 06 Mar 2007 17:35 GMT
[....]
> I was living in Southwick
[....]

Mrs. Murphy's addict? If you were we maybe sat across from each other.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 06 Mar 2007 17:56 GMT
> [....]
>> I was living in Southwick
> [....]
>
> Mrs. Murphy's addict? If you were we maybe sat across from each other.

Hmmm...where was Mrs. Murphy's? Was that near the lakes?

IIRC, if it's what I'm thinking of, it was a little eatery in the front of
a house? Across from the Lakeview or whatever it was back then, between
the upper and middle lakes.

If that's the place you're thinking of, I used to live at the end of the
street that place was on the corner of...

And never went into the place!
mark_digital© - 06 Mar 2007 18:22 GMT
>> [....]
>>> I was living in Southwick
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> And never went into the place!

Mrs. Murphy's is the little donut shop on 202.  Another place I used to go
to was back then called Nashville Supper Club. I'm sure you remember that
one. It's now called Louie B's.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 06 Mar 2007 20:18 GMT
>>> [....]
>>>> I was living in Southwick
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> to was back then called Nashville Supper Club. I'm sure you remember that
> one. It's now called Louie B's.

It wasn't Louis B's back then, I think it was the Lakeview. I knew it was
some guy's name but couldn't think of it.

Across the street from Louis B's 26 years ago was a house with a little
eatery in it. It was on the corner of a street, Babb's Rd, I think.
(There's 2 Babb's Roads, one In CT that comes into Southwick at Louis B's,
and the Mass Babb's Rd across the street from Louis B's). I used to live
at the end of the road...in a barn. It was converted to a garage and an
apartment, so I had a NICE garage to f@ck with my car in and a really nice
little apartment.

When I got engaged my wife didn't want to live in a barn so we moved to
Westfield; same LandLord.
mark_digital© - 06 Mar 2007 22:48 GMT
>>>> [....]
>>>>> I was living in Southwick
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> When I got engaged my wife didn't want to live in a barn so we moved to
> Westfield; same LandLord.

Lakeview and Louie B's are two separate facilities about a good half mile
apart.
When I was a kid I used to work in this area, and low and behold, when I
married my wife, her father owned a piece of property on Berkshire Ave. And
it so happens that my old man's business had the name Berkshire in it. Wow,
what a small world, eh?

Do you remember when United Technologies had changed it's name from United
Aircraft? That new logo made me laugh so hard.

Were you at HSD when signs went up at their entrances saying "Good
morning/evening. Today's date is ...... Please check the expiration date of
your gauges"?
Hachiroku ハチロク - 06 Mar 2007 23:28 GMT
>>>>> [....]
>>>>>> I was living in Southwick
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> Lakeview and Louie B's are two separate facilities about a good half mile
> apart.

Louis B's, I think...

> When I was a kid I used to work in this area, and low and behold, when I
> married my wife, her father owned a piece of property on Berkshire Ave.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>  United
> Aircraft? That new logo made me laugh so hard.

That's because they were using the same Logo as United Artists was, and
since United Artists had it first, they threatened to sue if United
Aircraft didn't get a new logo. Owing to the fact they were branching out
from the Aircraft parts businesses (Otis Elevators and Carrier AC
products) rather than change the logo they changed the name to United
Technologies. And why did the logo crack you up? I got it right away. It's
supposed to be the Impeller on the front of a Pratt & Whitney engine, but
it's also supposed to show 'progression'.

The only problem is, don't look at the first card in a Rolodex!!!

> Were you at HSD when signs went up at their entrances saying "Good
> morning/evening. Today's date is ...... Please check the expiration date
> of your gauges"?

When was that? You know, I can't remeber, but it seems familiar!

I got written up once for using some Heat Transfer compund on a heat sink
that was one day past it's expiration date! And I got a warning for using
a test rig that went out of date at midnight. I started my shift at 4:00,
we worked until 12:30, and I used the test stand all night! Got written up
for 15 minutes! My arguement was, if any calibrated settings went out,
they did it long before 12AM!!!
(I caused such a stink about it that they decided if a rig was IN USE at
midnight, then it was OK till the end of that shift. However, they refused
to remove the warning from my file!!!)
mark_digital© - 07 Mar 2007 04:07 GMT
>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>> I was living in Southwick
[quoted text clipped - 56 lines]
> supposed to be the Impeller on the front of a Pratt & Whitney engine, but
> it's also supposed to show 'progression'.

I told them it looked like stop motion of a golf swing.

> The only problem is, don't look at the first card in a Rolodex!!!
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> When was that? You know, I can't remeber, but it seems familiar!

It should. I designed it to keep people like yourself out of trouble. Read
on...

> I got written up once for using some Heat Transfer compund on a heat sink
> that was one day past it's expiration date! And I got a warning for using
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> midnight, then it was OK till the end of that shift. However, they refused
> to remove the warning from my file!!!)

I'm sure you felt all worked up at the time. It just goes to show how
important the job meant to you.

53790_
Hachiroku ハチロク - 07 Mar 2007 18:20 GMT
>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>> I was living in Southwick
[quoted text clipped - 69 lines]
> It should. I designed it to keep people like yourself out of trouble. Read
> on...

I think the sign was disabled by the time I got there.

>> I got written up once for using some Heat Transfer compund on a heat
>> sink that was one day past it's expiration date! And I got a warning for
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>  I'm sure you felt all worked up at the time. It just goes to show how
> important the job meant to you.

Nah, I just don't like getting written up for Bullshit. I could see if the
stand were out of date *before* I started using it...

> 53790_

53790_...?
mark_digital© - 07 Mar 2007 19:52 GMT
>>  I'm sure you felt all worked up at the time. It just goes to show how
>> important the job meant to you.
>
> Nah, I just don't like getting written up for Bullshit. I could see if the
> stand were out of date *before* I started using it...

May I ask when you were handed your pink slip?
Hachiroku ハチロク - 07 Mar 2007 21:30 GMT
>>>  I'm sure you felt all worked up at the time. It just goes to show how
>>> important the job meant to you.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>
> May I ask when you were handed your pink slip?

1993...I wasn't the last one out the door, but I managed to hang on for
about 2 years after the layoffs started...
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 Mar 2007 03:45 GMT
>>>  I'm sure you felt all worked up at the time. It just goes to show how
>>> important the job meant to you.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>
> May I ask when you were handed your pink slip?

Hey, just to hijack a thread:

BOTH bands, Seven O's, route 16 Sunderland, tomorrow (Thursday) night.
Should be out the door with both before 11PM...

I'd say one or the other will get up around 9PM.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 Mar 2007 04:31 GMT
>>>>  I'm sure you felt all worked up at the time. It just goes to show how
>>>> important the job meant to you.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> BOTH bands, Seven O's, route 16 Sunderland, tomorrow (Thursday) night.
> Should be out the door with both before 11PM...

Um, Rt 116!

> I'd say one or the other will get up around 9PM.
mark_digital© - 08 Mar 2007 04:55 GMT
> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 03:45:31 +0000, Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>> I'd say one or the other will get up around 9PM.

yeah, I know. I'm in the middle of checking the schedule.
mark_digital© - 08 Mar 2007 05:03 GMT
I can't make it tomorrow night but there's still three Thursdays left in
this month. Problem is I'm sure only one will be open but at the moment I
don't know which one. I'll let you know hopefully by tomorrow.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 Mar 2007 15:57 GMT
> I can't make it tomorrow night but there's still three Thursdays left in
> this month. Problem is I'm sure only one will be open but at the moment I
> don't know which one. I'll let you know hopefully by tomorrow.

It's tough to get the people together. In the Modern band, the guitar
player doesn't want to go out on Week nights, since he has to get up early
to go to work. Also, the singer and drummer are married and have trouble
finding a sitter. They were thinking of cancelling tonight since the other
band is going as they have to be home by 11!

The other band doesn't want to 'burn itself out' on Open Mics. The idea is
to go to an open mic, play 5-6 songs, hope they go over well enough that
the onwer hires us to hear more! (this has happened before...the Modern
band and another band got gigs this way!)

So, unless we get booked, this may be a one shot deal to hear both at once!
Hachiroku ハチロク - 06 Mar 2007 18:00 GMT
> [....]
>> I was living in Southwick
> [....]
>
> Mrs. Murphy's addict? If you were we maybe sat across from each other.

Oh, BTW, looks like 7 Os this week, maybe with both bands.
I might even be the 'House" bass player this week. Thursday night. We
(that is, BOTH bands) are going to try to get up early, <9:30 if we can.

I'm the older guy with the NICE red bass (if the House bass plyer is
there, he has a red 'beater' he uses, but is in his mid 30's)
tom418 - 06 Mar 2007 13:39 GMT
I hear you.

Years ago, I answered an ad in The Hartford Courant for a lab job at the
American Red Cross.

In my resume, I mentioned my M.S.  degree in Clinical Chemistry. I got no
response. Weeks later, I see the same ad again in the paper. I send out a
fictitious resume, using a pseudonym  who just "graduated" with a B.S. from
UConn.  TWO DAYS later, they call , asking to speak to my non existant
friend. When I confronted them as to why they didn't call ME, they told me
that they were afraid that "I'd be bored with the job".

> >>>>>> Since you are not a liberal who wants the government to do
> >>>>>> everything for you why don't you look into buying yourself some
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
> I kind of have to put the Heavy Hitters on there, but that's what scares
> them...
Hachiroku ハチロク - 06 Mar 2007 16:35 GMT
> I hear you.
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> existant friend. When I confronted them as to why they didn't call ME,
> they told me that they were afraid that "I'd be bored with the job".

I get this a LOT! How the hell do you know I'd be 'bored' with the job,
unless you try me?!?!

I think the other thing was also Salary. A freshly-minted BS would demand
a lower salary than an MS would...or so they think. They don't realize
that some of us just LIKE working and would take just a little more than a
Collge Kid. Also, I'm at the age now, I don't have to 'prove' myself, and
if I get a job I like, I'm not going to go job-hopping. Done it already,
but even still, my lowest stint with a company (that matters, that
is...washing cars at a Toyota dealer doesn't count as a 'career move'...
was 4 years! Unless I got laid off, of course. But voluntarily, I don't
hop job to job unless there is a REAL good reason, esp if it's something I
like.

>> >>>>>> Since you are not a liberal who wants the government to do
>> >>>>>> everything for you why don't you look into buying yourself some
[quoted text clipped - 53 lines]
>> jobs I kind of have to put the Heavy Hitters on there, but that's what
>> scares them...
mark_digital© - 05 Mar 2007 11:37 GMT
> Since I am unemployed, I was looking forward to the new Massachusetts
> "Coverage For All" plan to kick in. Then I found out what it is...
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> WTF is that?!?! It's not Healthcare Insurance, it's Insurance
> Healthcare!!!

When you file just write across the form in big letters "Have mercy on me".
Try not to let it cover up your reported zero income. And then, where it
asks what your occupation is, write "musician".
dbu, - 05 Mar 2007 12:03 GMT
> > Since I am unemployed, I was looking forward to the new Massachusetts
> > "Coverage For All" plan to kick in. Then I found out what it is...
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> Try not to let it cover up your reported zero income. And then, where it
> asks what your occupation is, write "musician".

Or "artist" like me.
--
mark_digital© - 05 Mar 2007 12:16 GMT
>> > Since I am unemployed, I was looking forward to the new Massachusetts
>> > "Coverage For All" plan to kick in. Then I found out what it is...
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>
> Or "artist" like me.

Then you would write  "Liberal" across your form instead. I knew the truth
about you would come out sooner or later.
dbu, - 05 Mar 2007 14:58 GMT
> >> > Since I am unemployed, I was looking forward to the new Massachusetts
> >> > "Coverage For All" plan to kick in. Then I found out what it is...
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> Then you would write  "Liberal" across your form instead. I knew the truth
> about you would come out sooner or later.

You are typecast profiling.  There are conservative artists and there
are liberal rednecks.   :)
--
Hachiroku ハチロク - 05 Mar 2007 20:35 GMT
>> Now, some Ins Companies, at the Commonwealth's 'urging', are offering
>> coverage for what was supposed to be $280, but will actually be $340 a
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> me". Try not to let it cover up your reported zero income. And then, where
> it asks what your occupation is, write "musician".

Yeah, this would certainly cover a lot...seems that's all I'm going to be
doing this year...
 
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