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New Toyota forum starting up - with special pricing on OE Toyota parts and accessories for forum members. http://www.toyotasciononline.com Current special: 4 cyl canister type oil filter - 90915-YZZF1 - Box of 10 - $32.50 6 cyl canister type oil filter - 90915-YZZD1 - Box of 10 - $32.50 6 cyl cartridge type oil filter - 04152-YZZA1 - Box of 10 - $39.95 8 cyl canister type oil filter - 90915-YZZD3 - Box of 10 - $35.00 Check it out and register today! Spam reported to: abuse@verizon.net and groups-abuse@google.com > Spam reported to: abuse@verizon.net and groups-abuse@google.com Ditto Natalie >> Spam reported to: abuse@verizon.net and groups-abuse@google.com > > Ditto > > Natalie HAHAHAHA! Good luck, BOTH of you! Think Verizon is going to do anything about it?! And, at least the guy said it was an ad! I can appreciate that! > >> Spam reported to: abuse@verizon.net and groups-abuse@google.com > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > And, at least the guy said it was an ad! I can appreciate that! If Verizon doesn't, complain to Verizon's uplink. Keep going up the food chain. Eventually you may find someone that cares and everyone down the chain from the guy that cares gets sanctioned. It's worth trying. > > >> Spam reported to: a...@verizon.net and groups-ab...@google.com > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > down the chain from the guy that cares gets sanctioned. It's worth > trying. Sorry for the interruption guys - you don't have to worry about me spamming the board any more.. I should have gone about posting the new site a different way.. Rob We've just bought a new 2007 Highlander Hybrid. As New York is going through one of its nasty road periods, we elected to leave the Highlander in the garage until the roads clear. Its been two weeks and the engine battery (12 Volt) is absolutely dead. Question: is the computer drain on the battery such that it will wipe out a battery in simply two weeks or should I look for something wrong? Thanks in advance...Walt in upstate NY > We've just bought a new 2007 Highlander Hybrid. As New York is going > through [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Thanks in advance...Walt in upstate NY It shouldn't be dead after two weeks. When my battery is dead, it usually involves me leaving a light on. Anyway, look in the owner's manual and see what it says about getting the truck jumped. Or, use a battery charger. When you bring the truck into the dealer for service, tell them about it. They should be able to see if there is a problem. Jeff > We've just bought a new 2007 Highlander Hybrid. As New York is going through > one of its nasty road periods, we elected to leave the Highlander in the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Thanks in advance...Walt in upstate NY Take it back to the DEALER, who knows the correct answer to all these questions--and who will fix this problem under warranty. Also, understand that with Toyota's hybrid synergy drive, there is no "engine battery" per se like there is on a non-hybrid car. There's a 12v battery, but it's there to turn on the computer. Once the computer is up and happy, it controls the big battery and the engine together. The big battery is responsible for starting the engine as required by the computer. >Take it back to the DEALER, who knows the correct answer to all these >questions--and who will fix this problem under warranty. Don't ya' just love folks who go to the Internet before seeking warranty service on an expensive, spanking new, ride? <G> >>Take it back to the DEALER, who knows the correct answer to all these >>questions--and who will fix this problem under warranty. > > Don't ya' just love folks who go to the Internet before seeking > warranty service on an expensive, spanking new, ride? <G> That's actually good. Not only do others get to learn from the questions and answers, but the OP may learn something that the dealer doesn't tell him. In fact, it is not a bad idea. Plus, the OP may not realize that this is a warranty issue. Keep asking questions folks! Jeff >That's actually good. Not only do others get to learn from the questions and >answers, but the OP may learn something that the dealer doesn't tell him. And he can try to fix it himself, based on anonymous poor advice, possibly voiding a covered repair. >In fact, it is not a bad idea. Plus, the OP may not realize that this is a >warranty issue. Brand new cars that go dead for no apparent reason are warranty cases, PERIOD. If it's gotta' be flatbedded back to the dealership, so be it. Now, if these folks called the dealership and were told it's normal for this to happen, that's a totally different story and a great time to post. >>That's actually good. Not only do others get to learn from the questions >>and >>answers, but the OP may learn something that the dealer doesn't tell him. > > And he can try to fix it himself, based on anonymous poor advice, > possibly voiding a covered repair. That the funny thing. It is only on newsgroups where poor advice is given. The advice by neighbors, relatives, and TV announcers is always good. And websites are 100% accurate, all the time. ;-) >>In fact, it is not a bad idea. Plus, the OP may not realize that this is a >>warranty issue. > > Brand new cars that go dead for no apparent reason are warranty cases, > PERIOD. If it's gotta' be flatbedded back to the dealership, so be > it. I don't disagree. But this is a forum where people are supposed to ask questions. Geez. > Now, if these folks called the dealership and were told it's normal > for this to happen, that's a totally different story and a great time > to post. It's a great time to post before calling the dealership, but the OP can learn helpful information about what is going on. Jeff >>That's actually good. Not only do others get to learn from the questions >>and [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > for this to happen, that's a totally different story and a great time > to post. He misspelled Hylander twice. He's trolling. Don't get worked up. <snipped> > He misspelled Hylander twice. He's trolling. Don't get worked up. Toyota spells it "Highlander."  SignatureRay O (correct punctuation to reply) > <snipped> >> He misspelled Hylander twice. He's trolling. Don't get worked up. >> > Toyota spells it "Highlander." Wow! You're right. Did you know this already or did you double check just to make sure? >> <snipped> >>> He misspelled Hylander twice. He's trolling. Don't get worked up. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Wow! You're right. Did you know this already or did you double check just > to make sure? I knew it but double-checked just to make sure. ;-) SignatureRay O (correct punctuation to reply) >>> <snipped> >>>> He misspelled Hylander twice. He's trolling. Don't get worked up. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I knew it but double-checked just to make sure. ;-) Do you happen to know from what power source the anti-theft and glass breakage alarm draws from? <snipped> > Do you happen to know from what power source the anti-theft and glass > breakage alarm draws from? Not off-hand, but it would have to come from either the fuse panel under the dash or the panel under the hood. I would imagine that the system would be a 12 volt system and not from the hybrid battery pack. SignatureRay O (correct punctuation to reply) > <snipped> >> Do you happen to know from what power source the anti-theft and glass >> breakage alarm draws from? > Not off-hand, but it would have to come from either the fuse panel under > the dash or the panel under the hood. I would imagine that the system > would be a 12 volt system and not from the hybrid battery pack. I just came back from picking up a few essentials for dinner. On my way home I spotted two police cars 5 times within 3 miles. I think they think I want to steal my own car ;) Have a good night Ray. >> <snipped> >>> Do you happen to know from what power source the anti-theft and glass [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I want to steal my own car ;) > Have a good night Ray. Have a good night as well! SignatureRay O (correct punctuation to reply) > "mark_digital?" <XXX-...@comcastnot.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > dash or the panel under the hood. I would imagine that the system would be > a 12 volt system and not from the hybrid battery pack. The Highlander Hybrid is much like the Prius - the hybrid battery pack is isolated via a relay when the vehicle is off. The 12v accessory battery does exactly that - powers the accessories, like the head and tail lights, the interior map/dome lights, the alarm, the radio, the fans, etc. It also powers the computers. (The computers can then flip the relay, allowing the hybrid battery pack to come online and it is the hybrid battery pack that starts the gasoline engine.) If Toyota followed what is done in the Prius, then it's a relatively small 12v accessory battery (since it is never needed to start the engine). It's pretty easy to run it down by leaving a dome light on overnight (say by leaving a door slightly open), or by the parasitic drain of the alarm system and such by leaving the car undriven for long periods of time. (Toyota has a TSB for dealers that has preventative measures listed for the 12v battery if you are leaving it for 10 or more days... See: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highlander_hybrid/files/TSBs/ for TSB PD016-05 and PD097-06) > >>Take it back to the DEALER, who knows the correct answer to all these > >>questions--and who will fix this problem under warranty. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > That's actually good. Not only do others get to learn from the questions and > answers, but the OP may learn something that the dealer doesn't tell him. Maybe. But he's not using the net as a supplement. He comes here FIRST to ask anonymous people to offer advice on a major problem he's having with his two week old, $32,000 shiny toy. Wow. > In fact, it is not a bad idea. Plus, the OP may not realize that this is a > warranty issue. If he's that stupid, I'm going to knock on his door and sell him insurance and home repair and a few other things. A two week old car that he bought NEW, and he doesn't realize that this is a warranty issue?????? What the f.ck are YOU smoking? Don't excuse his pathetic behavior like that. His shiny new toy STOPPED WORKING. TWO WEEKS after he bought it. And the only excuse you can come up with for why he should be allowed to post such a question in public like this is "he may not realize that this is a warranty issue"????? If he's truly that stupid, I'm afraid of him being on the road in a 3500 pound vehicle. "But officer, he may not realize that this was a stop issue. That's why he went through the red light and t-boned the school bus full of nuns. You have to let him go without a ticket." > >Take it back to the DEALER, who knows the correct answer to all these > >questions--and who will fix this problem under warranty. > > Don't ya' just love folks who go to the Internet before seeking > warranty service on an expensive, spanking new, ride? <G> yeah, no kidding. > We've just bought a new 2007 Highlander Hybrid. As New York is going > through [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Thanks in advance...Walt in upstate NY The 12 volt battery was probably not fully charged because it sat on a ship for a week or two, then at the port of entry for a few days, then possibly another week on a train and railhead, then a few days at the dealership, and then 2 weeks in your garage. Additionally, the faq section at www.toyota.com has hybrid vehicle storage tips. It says: "To prevent excessive auxiliary battery drainage, charge the battery at least once every two weeks by driving the vehicle for 15 - 20 minutes with all non-essential electrical accessories (such as air conditioning and audio equipment) turned off. As an alternative, you may disconnect the negative terminal of the auxiliary battery. For the hybrid vehicle battery, charge the battery at least once every two months by starting the hybrid system for about 30 minutes*. Check that the "ready" light is on and all lights and electrical accessories are off. It is not necessary to drive the vehicle, but do not start the hybrid system in an enclosed area unless the tail pipe is connected to an exhaust hose to prevent harmful build up of fumes" If you think that you will frequently park the vehicle for several weeks at a time, you may wish to consider getting an automatic trickle charger for the 12 volt battery. SignatureRay O (correct punctuation to reply) Ray, Thanks for the explanation and pointer to the source of data. Walt > > We've just bought a new 2007 Highlander Hybrid. As New York is going > > through [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > Ray O > (correct punctuation to reply) > Ray, > > Thanks for the explanation and pointer to the source of data. > > Walt You're welcome! SignatureRay O (correct punctuation to reply) On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 01:43:18 -0800, kennedy.projects wrote: >> > >> Spam reported to: a...@verizon.net and groups-ab...@google.com >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Rob Hey, at least you SAID *ad*!!! I thought that was cool. I have no aversion to anyone posting info about a site or group as long as they make it clear it is an ad! And, at least you didn't post it with the header "Huge Tits" like that moron spammer has been doing! "Hachiroku ????" kennedy.projects wrote: " <mrste...@gmail.com> wrote: Wickeddoll® wrote: >>> > > "Jeff" .. >>> > >> Spam reported to: a...@verizon.net and groups-ab...@google.com [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Hey, at least you SAID *ad*!!! I thought that was cool. But not in the title - that's what irked me. > I have no aversion to anyone posting info about a site or group as long as > they make it clear it is an ad! Again, in the title/subject > And, at least you didn't post it with the header "Huge Tits" like that > moron spammer has been doing! I'm much more impressed with him owning up to the error. A *true* spammer has no shame. Natalie > "Hachiroku ????" > kennedy.projects wrote: [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >> > But not in the title - that's what irked me. Yes he did! >> I have no aversion to anyone posting info about a site or group as long >> as they make it clear it is an ad! >> > Again, in the title/subject Yes he did. Subject: AD: New Toyota Forum Somebody's USLESS <A-micro-HE-soft-M> newsreader cut everything from the : back.... >> And, at least you didn't post it with the header "Huge Tits" like that >> moron spammer has been doing! [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Natalie Subject: AD: New Toyota Forum Somebody's USLESS <A-micro-HE-soft-M> newsreader cut everything from the : back.... "Hachiroku ????" < Wickeddoll® wrote: >> kennedy.projects wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > Somebody's USLESS <A-micro-HE-soft-M> newsreader cut everything from the : > back.... :-P My bad then. Apologies to the chap. Natalie |
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