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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / March 2007Mobil 1 for baby
Well, it's been a year and 2 months now that I've had the '06 Camry. This week I'll be seeing the dealer for my second oil change. Reading Ray O's helpful posts has convinced me to *only* let the dealer do maintenance. The car has about 5,000 miles on it. For the first oil change, I used conventional dino, but unless anyone has any objections, I'm going to permanently switch over to either Mobil 1 Synthetic or Mobil 1 Extended Performance. Sam's Club sells 6 one-quart bottles of Mobil 1 Synthetic for $29--in case you want to get some yourselves.  SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > Well, it's been a year and 2 months now that I've had the '06 Camry. >This week I'll be seeing the dealer for my second oil change. Reading [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Sam's Club sells 6 one-quart bottles of Mobil 1 Synthetic >for $29--in case you want to get some yourselves. Based upon the used oil analyses to date, I would use Pennzoil Platinum over Mobil 1. See www.bobistheoilguy.com for Toyota/Lexus V6 used oil analysis reports. Oh, the 5 quart container at Wally World is $19.97. YMMV. "Oh, the 5 quart container at Wally World is $19.97." ==== I guess the price you're quoting must be for Pennzoil Platinum instead of Mobil 1, because Sam's Club prices are even cheaper than Walmart. For example, you can buy 6 pounds of Protein Powder at Sam's Club for about 30 percent less than Walmart. And Walmart is already unbelievably cheap when compared to, say, GNC (General Nutrition Center). > "Oh, the 5 quart container at Wally World is $19.97." > ==== [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > than Walmart. And Walmart is already unbelievably cheap when compared > to, say, GNC (General Nutrition Center). I didn't know GNC sells motor oil. I am sure they have omega-3 oils, but they are suitable for engines. I wouldn't recommend protien powder, either, for an engine. In fact, I would not recommend anything at GNC for human consumption, either. I would recommend a healthy, balanced diet instead. Jeff "I would recommend a healthy, balanced diet instead." ===== I was not off topic. We were discussing the pricing of Pennzoil versus Mobil 1. You, however, brought the conversation way off topic with an extended foray into nutrition. Yeah, I also recommend a balanced diet. But for weight lifters, I also recommend a little protein powder unless you want to eat all day long. It doesn't sound like you have ever weight- lifted. Cheap pricing for the "Body Fortress" brand at Walmart and EAS brand at Sam's Club. Now maybe we can get back on topic. > Well, it's been a year and 2 months now that I've had the '06 Camry. > This week I'll be seeing the dealer for my second oil change. Reading [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Sam's Club sells 6 one-quart bottles of Mobil 1 Synthetic > for $29--in case you want to get some yourselves. Only 5,000 miles in 14 months? If the car takes many very short trips where the engine never fully warms up, synthetic may prolong the life of the engine, although IMO and in the opinion of the folks who designed the car, conventional oil with and API Performance Level of SM should be sufficient. While synthetic oil generally outperforms conventional oil, I have seen plenty of vehicles with well over 300,000 miles that were maintained with conventional oil. I saw a customer's Supra that had close to 700,000 miles on the original engine, with oil changes every 3,000 miles using conventional oil. SignatureRay O (correct punctuation to reply) > If the car takes many very short trips... ===== Ray O, thank you very much for the information. A 700,000 mile original-engine Supra! Amazing. I was a little hesitant to switch to synthetic, but decided I probably would after the Camry made a short 1-second-long funny noise at startup a couple times during the absolute cold of Winter. It almost sounded like grinding. The car had not been started for a whole week on both occasions. Too many feet of snow on the ground to be driving, so I just walked the 3 blocks to work for that week. Does anyone know if it's bad not to start your car for a whole week during the extreme cold of winter? We had a couple 15- to 20-inch overnight snow falls this past season, with drifts that were a few feet high. I'm wondering if it would have been better for me to just let the car idle for a few minutes each day instead of letting it sit untouched for a whole week? I thought I was doing something good leaving it undisturbed during the frigid temperatures, but now I'm not so sure after hearing the 1-second-long grinding at startup those couple times. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> If the car takes many very short trips... > ===== [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > a whole week on both occasions. Too many feet of snow on the ground > to be driving, so I just walked the 3 blocks to work for that week. Without hearing the sound, I couldn't tell you if it is the engine or something else. I doubt if synthetic would make the sound go away under the same conditions. > Does anyone know if it's bad not to start your car for a whole > week during the extreme cold of winter? We had a couple 15- to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > during the frigid temperatures, but now I'm not so sure after hearing > the 1-second-long grinding at startup those couple times. It is OK to not start your car for a week during extreme cold weather, and starting it and letting it idle without getting fully warmed up is actually worse for the car. The biggest problem you will run into by not starting the car for long periods is drain on the battery. If you have automatic headlights, turn them to the off position. It is nice to know that there are still people who are willing to walk 3 blocks instead of firing up the car! SignatureRay O (correct punctuation to reply) >> If the car takes many very short trips... > ===== [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > a whole week on both occasions. Too many feet of snow on the ground > to be driving, so I just walked the 3 blocks to work for that week. So when the weather is good you drive the 3 blocks to work? SMS mumbled incoherently to the rest of alt.autos.toyota: > So when the weather is good you drive the 3 blocks to work? There was a survey done a while ago that said the average US driver only did something stupid like 1.5 miles drive to work. Cant remember where it is or how reliable it is, someone might have a link. Either way it doesnt suprise me, people in general are getting hugely lazy. It seems insane that anyone would walk 3 blocks to work when its snowing but not when its better weather? SignatureJ __________________________________________ http://www.jbuckle.homeip.net << My personal site http://www.aoskc.com << Ainsdale Kitesurf Club > SMS mumbled incoherently to the rest of alt.autos.toyota: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > that anyone would walk 3 blocks to work when its snowing but not when its > better weather? I do something stupid like drive 25-60 miles one way to work! ;) Hachiroku ハチロク proclaimed to alt.autos.toyota ... > I do something stupid like drive 25-60 miles one way to work! ;) That is a long journey! I ride around 17 miles on my mountain bike, but I only do it one-way as I cant muster the energy to return the same day lol. SignatureJ __________________________________________ http://www.jbuckle.homeip.net << My personal site http://www.aoskc.com << Ainsdale Kitesurf Club > Hachiroku ハチロク proclaimed to alt.autos.toyota ... > >> I do something stupid like drive 25-60 miles one way to work! ;) > > That is a long journey! I ride around 17 miles on my mountain bike, but I > only do it one-way as I cant muster the energy to return the same day lol. I used to live 12 miles from work (second shift) so I would ride to the grocery store (8 miles), go home, eat lunch and then ride to work, where a guy with a truck would give me a ride home at 12:30 AM One mechanic (or auto service employee) told me he doesn't use synthetic oil because it doesn't contain as many detergents as conventional oil. As a result, your engine becomes dirtier. He even said the reason synthetic oil does not need to be changed as often as conventional is because synth oil does not get as dirty since it doesn't have as many detergents to clean the engine! Another mechanic (or auto service employee) I spoke with had no knowledge of the first employee's claims. It seems if you talk to 4 people, you'll get 4 different answers ;-) SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com One mechanic (or auto service employee) told me he doesn't use synthetic oil because it doesn't contain as many detergents as conventional oil. As a result, your engine becomes dirtier. He even said the reason synthetic oil does not need to be changed as often as conventional is because synth oil does not get as dirty since it doesn't have as many detergents to clean the engine! Another mechanic (or auto service employee) I spoke with had no knowledge of the first employee's claims. It seems if you talk to 4 people, you'll get 4 different answers ;-) > Well, it's been a year and 2 months now that I've had the '06 Camry. > This week I'll be seeing the dealer for my second oil change. Reading Ray [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Sam's Club sells 6 one-quart bottles of Mobil 1 Synthetic > for $29--in case you want to get some yourselves. Nuts. I put Castrol Synthetic in my Snowblower motor! It's brand new and had only a very small amount of what looked like Marvel in it when I got it. We'll see, maybe. The motor that was on it was 30 years old, and my stepfather changed the oil (or had it changed) once a year whether it needed it or not! And never checked it, just sent it down for it's yearly check-up in November. That motor lasted ~30 years. The manual for this one says, change the oil after the first 2 hours (make that three...I wasn't going to stop 2/3 of the way done to change oil!) and then every 5 hours after that (that's approx 2 good storms). Let's see what happens if I stick to this schedule, with Syntec! |
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