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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / March 2007

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RAV4 or Element ?

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Ron - 20 Mar 2007 15:13 GMT
I'm thinking of  buying a new Honda Element (with stick shift). This
because I want the stick shift. However I am also considering a RAV4
(even though no stick is available).
Does anyone here have experience and/or advice with either of these 2
vehicles  that would steer me toward the RAV4 ?
Hachiroku ハチロク - 20 Mar 2007 16:24 GMT
> I'm thinking of  buying a new Honda Element (with stick shift). This
> because I want the stick shift. However I am also considering a RAV4 (even
> though no stick is available).
> Does anyone here have experience and/or advice with either of these 2
> vehicles  that would steer me toward the RAV4 ?

Either one is decent. Follow the maintenance and you'll have no problem
with either.

Oh, and the Element is UGLY, but if you can get it with a 5-speed...
mack - 20 Mar 2007 21:46 GMT
> Oh, and the Element is UGLY, but if you can get it with a 5-speed...

you got that right, Hachi.   In the dictionary next to the word Ugly there
must be a photo of an Element, which I consider the automotive equivalent of
"Springtime For Hitler", a concept planned to fail.   I have wondered ever
since the Element was introduced what prompted the designers to carry it
beyond the sketch stage.   It exemplifies the old joke's tag line ..."well,
it's satisfying, but degrading!"
. - 21 Mar 2007 06:11 GMT
>I'm thinking of  buying a new Honda Element (with stick shift). This
>because I want the stick shift. However I am also considering a RAV4
>(even though no stick is available).
>Does anyone here have experience and/or advice with either of these 2
>vehicles  that would steer me toward the RAV4 ?

So you want arguments towards the RAV4, eh?  Let me try:
1)  The RAV4 is quieter on the road, especially on broken pavement and
freeway speeds.  I've test driven both back to back.
2)  The RAV4 is quicker and handles better.
3)  Parts and maintenance are cheaper.  For example, you can replace
the cabin filter yourself on the RAV4.  The CRV requires the dash to
be taken apart by the dealer.
4)  The RAV4 is standard with an MP3 player and an AUX input.  The CRV
has an AUX player input only.
5)  Auto-off headlights.
6)  Better fuel economy.
7)  Available with a powerful V6 and 3rd row seating.
8)  Available with a moonroof even on the base models.
9)  Longer wheelbase and higher ground clearance while having a
shorter turning radius.
10) Better long-term reliability.

Would that suffice?
Olmedo Monteverde - 21 Mar 2007 10:30 GMT
I had to google pictures of Honda's Element : unknown here in Europe... and
it's not really a beauty! What a pity you can't get a RAV4 like mine : six
(yes, six) speed gear box linked to a 2.2 lt diesel engine delivering a
gorgeous 400 Nm torque at 2000-2600 rev/min. Simply amazing...
Regards OM.

> I'm thinking of  buying a new Honda Element (with stick shift). This
> because I want the stick shift. However I am also considering a RAV4 (even
> though no stick is available).
> Does anyone here have experience and/or advice with either of these 2
> vehicles  that would steer me toward the RAV4 ?
Bob H - 22 Mar 2007 09:19 GMT
The diesels coming to the US soon will not the the city-choking variety
common overseas.

>I had to google pictures of Honda's Element : unknown here in Europe... and
>it's not really a beauty! What a pity you can't get a RAV4 like mine : six
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>> Does anyone here have experience and/or advice with either of these 2
>> vehicles  that would steer me toward the RAV4 ?
 
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