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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / March 2007

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Built_Well - 22 Mar 2007 12:51 GMT
While getting an oil change, I don't like seeing my car hoisted
by its petards eight feet into the air.

 I prefer the Walmart Way:  the tech goes down to the basement
and works on the car through removable grates in the floor.

 I suppose the structural integrity of the frame will withstand
the forces, but I always worry about human error--like the hoister
not being in direct contact with the frame, and what not.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 22 Mar 2007 14:50 GMT
>   While getting an oil change, I don't like seeing my car hoisted
> by its petards eight feet into the air.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> the forces, but I always worry about human error--like the hoister not
> being in direct contact with the frame, and what not.

On busy Saturdays, they had me doing oil changes and tire rotations.
Ya know, I always worried about thet, too...
Ray O - 22 Mar 2007 16:43 GMT
>  While getting an oil change, I don't like seeing my car hoisted
> by its petards eight feet into the air.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> the forces, but I always worry about human error--like the hoister
> not being in direct contact with the frame, and what not.

I've done it hundreds, if not thousands of times, never had a problem.  The
most common mistake I've seen is when a transmission or engine is removed
without placing additional stands, upsetting the vehicle's balance, and the
tech ends up with a vehicle doing a hand stand.
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kaboom - 22 Mar 2007 22:22 GMT
>>  While getting an oil change, I don't like seeing my car hoisted
>> by its petards eight feet into the air.
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>without placing additional stands, upsetting the vehicle's balance, and the
>tech ends up with a vehicle doing a hand stand.

**Have you ever seen a vehicle fall off the lift?

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Ray O - 22 Mar 2007 23:12 GMT
>>>  While getting an oil change, I don't like seeing my car hoisted
>>> by its petards eight feet into the air.
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>
> kaboomie

I have seen vehicles that have fallen off a lift but I have not actually
watched a vehicle fall off.
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Ph@Boy - 22 Mar 2007 18:37 GMT
>   While getting an oil change, I don't like seeing my car hoisted
> by its petards eight feet into the air.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> the forces, but I always worry about human error--like the hoister
> not being in direct contact with the frame, and what not.

Like Ray says, it's usually not a problem until major components are
removed and the center of gravity is changed making it unsafe. I have a
Bend-Pak ten thousand pound articulated hoist and you are well advised
about CG changes when the vehicle is elevated. There is accompanying
literature that is updated to specify each make and model vehicle lift
points. If there is a problem, you know it as soon as the tires leave
the floor. The new hoists are not going to damage your vehicle if used
appropriately. Any problems are going to be caused by "operator
malfunction".
 
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