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What's Your Audio Setup in Your Toyota? Sort of a Poll...
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DH - 19 Apr 2007 15:00 GMT Just out of curiosity (prompted by Mark_Digital's note in an OT thread about how he carries a bag of CD's), what are you doing for tunes or talk in your Toyota?
I've been contemplating an audio upgrade.
I've got basic CD and radio (the default single-CD player of '00). It doesn't seem to do CD-ROMs with MP3s. My wife surprised me last year with an iPod that I absolutely love (except that 1GB looked like a lot - at first - and now I could easily use 2GB or more). I have no way to use it in the car (headphones seem like a bad idea), there's no audio port on the Toyota radio of '00.
Has anyone got HD Radio capability? Do you listen to HD Radio? Do you have an iPod port? Is it a asic audio input jack, a USB port or something more exotic? What do you think is essential and what do you really use?
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badgolferman - 19 Apr 2007 17:11 GMT > Just out of curiosity (prompted by Mark_Digital's note in an OT thread about > how he carries a bag of CD's), what are you doing for tunes or talk in your [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com Instead of listening to music in your car take that time to listen to news and other such things. That would help you to become more informed about these day's happenings. Using all your resources that are available will expand your open-mindedness and not keep you chained to the opinions of a few select outlets you are using now. I know you are much more intelligent than that garbage you have been feeding on from slate.com and similar places. It's good to hear a variety of opinions and formulate your own based on your experience and ability to reason.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 19 Apr 2007 17:45 GMT >> Just out of curiosity (prompted by Mark_Digital's note in an OT thread >> about how he carries a bag of CD's), what are you doing for tunes or [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > similar places. It's good to hear a variety of opinions and formulate > your own based on your experience and ability to reason. Sometimes I get tired of all the yapping and just want to listen to some music. I used to listen to talk/news radio almost exclusively until I got XM. Now, with about 100 choices, I can listen to what *I* want to listen to, not what the local (UGH!) radio stations are pushing this week or play what 'everyone' wants to here (We have some really BAD stations around here)
Where I live is an AM Black Hole, so unless I'm in certain sections of the area, all I get is static...unless I want to listen to NPR.
The good side: I recently discovered that Glenn Beck broadcasts on XM. This is a Good Thing. I have gotten so I like Beck better than Limbaugh anyway. If someone screws up, Beck calls them on it, be it Democrat *OR* Republican!
badgolferman - 19 Apr 2007 21:21 GMT > Where I live is an AM Black Hole, so unless I'm in certain sections of the > area, all I get is static...unless I want to listen to NPR. NPR is static, isn't it? Seriously, one should listen to all sides of an argument because it helps to broaden your understanding and points are made that you wouldn't hear if just listening to those who agree with you.
Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute - 19 Apr 2007 23:11 GMT In message news:1177014075.880066.292010@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com, badgolferman sprach forth the following:
> On Apr 19, 12:45 pm, Hachiroku ãƒãƒãƒã‚¯ <Tru...@AE86.gts> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > are made that you wouldn't hear if just listening to those who agree > with you. New poll: How many Kerry voters listen to Limbaugh?
Hachiroku ハチロク - 20 Apr 2007 00:57 GMT >> On Apr 19, 12:45 pm, Hachiroku ããã㯠>> <Tru...@AE86.gts> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > New poll: How many Kerry voters listen to Limbaugh? Ask Howie Carr!
Hachiroku ハチロク - 20 Apr 2007 00:57 GMT >> Where I live is an AM Black Hole, so unless I'm in certain sections of >> the area, all I get is static...unless I want to listen to NPR. > > NPR is static, isn't it? Seriously, one should listen to all sides of an > argument because it helps to broaden your understanding and points are > made that you wouldn't hear if just listening to those who agree with you. Dude, I listen to NPR, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and Howie Carr, and in the few spare minutes left over catch the BBC.
How the hell much MORE diversified can I get?!?! ;)
Truckdude - 19 Apr 2007 17:53 GMT >> Just out of curiosity (prompted by Mark_Digital's note in an OT thread >> about [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > variety of opinions and formulate your own based on your experience > and ability to reason. What you say makes good sense. For some reason, though, when it comes from you it makes me chuckle.
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badgolferman - 19 Apr 2007 21:19 GMT > >> Just out of curiosity (prompted by Mark_Digital's note in an OT thread > >> about [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > What you say makes good sense. For some reason, though, when it comes from > you it makes me chuckle. Much of what I say makes sense to me...
DH - 19 Apr 2007 21:51 GMT >> >> Just out of curiosity (prompted by Mark_Digital's note in an OT thread >> >> about [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >> from >> you it makes me chuckle. I think Truckdude is given to polite understatement. I would have said, "What you say makes good sense. For some reason, though, when it comes from you, I laugh so hard the coffee comes back out my nose."
> Much of what I say makes sense to me... Luckily, I finished the coffee a couple hours ago.
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DH - 19 Apr 2007 20:11 GMT >> Just out of curiosity (prompted by Mark_Digital's note in an OT thread >> about [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > variety of opinions and formulate your own based on your experience > and ability to reason. That's why we take the paper. Although I am thinking of switching to the Red Star. When I want information, I read. It's quicker and, if I miss something, I can go back and read the paragraph again.
The paper offers depth that TV and radio do not. On "news" radio, it's the same 4 stories over and over again (as if I care about the latest developments in the Baby Smith custody fight). It's not nutrient-dense. TV news just picks the stories with the best visuals and ignores everything else. On "talk" radio, it's mostly blather from yahoos that don't know much and don't care to learn.
The two best sources of in-depth news on the radio would be NPR or, formerly, Al Franken's radio show. Laugh all you like but Al spent relatively little time mocking the Administration (which they so richly deserve) and much, much more time interviewing people who were simply experts on various things. And sometimes they were conservatively-oriented experts. And Al didn't make fun of them or cut their mikes, he just asked questions and sometimes offered information - or made some jokes. The best "news" or "talk" radio I've heard in many a year was an Al Franken show last year where Al went out to the University of Minnesota at Morris (pop 2500 when the U is out and pop 5000 when the U is in, surrounded by 80 miles of cornfields, with a student body that's 40% committed atheists, 40% committed, born-again Christians and 20% who don't want to hear from either of those two groups) to talk to people there about the problems of small, rural towns. This is an under-reported story and for this subject matter, hearing it, as opposed to simply reading a news article, really gave it an extra dimension. Franken and his guests discussed a variety of things, including ethanol policy and economic development. Several NPR shows have a similar format, where an idea can be explored in depth.
I'm looking into podcasts for stories like this.
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Cathy F. - 19 Apr 2007 21:39 GMT >> Just out of curiosity (prompted by Mark_Digital's note in an OT thread >> about [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > variety of opinions and formulate your own based on your experience > and ability to reason. Now why does this post strike me as eminently sensible, yet pretty funny? ;-P
I listen to NPR - "Morning Edition" on the way into work, and "Talk of the Nation" (or "Science Friday" - if it's Friday, obviously!) on the way home from work. On Saturdays, if I'm running errands I tune into "Car Talk", "Wait, Wait... Don't Tell Me!" - an absolute favorite of mine!, & "Says You". For long trips, I have an NPR nat'l. map, listing all of the local stations, so I can listen along the way as one signal fades out, & another one becomes available.
But sometimes I travel in places where there's virtually zilch radio reception, or else I simply want to enjoy some choice (IMO) music! (Paul Simon, Ray Charles, Sting, Roy Orbison, Eric Clapton, Carole King... ) Then in goes a CD. :-)
Cathy
badgolferman - 19 Apr 2007 21:59 GMT > Now why does this post strike me as eminently sensible, yet pretty > funny? ;-P It is sensible because it is the truth.
> I listen to NPR - "Morning Edition" on the way into work, and "Talk > of the Nation" (or "Science Friday" - if it's Friday, obviously!) on [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > nat'l. map, listing all of the local stations, so I can listen along > the way as one signal fades out, & another one becomes available. So when do you listen to an alternate point of view?
Cathy F. - 19 Apr 2007 22:12 GMT >> Now why does this post strike me as eminently sensible, yet pretty >> funny? ;-P [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > So when do you listen to an alternate point of view? What, like Rush? Tried listening to him a few times & couldn't *stand* it. Talk about twisting info to fit one's own agenda. It was so obviously ultra-right wing; not anywhere near center. Years before the oxycontin scandal, I predicted that the guy was/is so far to the right that he was gonna fall off the edge someday. I get all (& more) of the extreme right I can handle right here...
My (regular basis) news sources are: CNN, NPR, & Newsweek. Usually in that order, since I tend to keep CNN on in the background while doing my school work in the evenings. But get ready for work, and drive to & from work (~15 minutes ea. way) listening to NPR. And have a subscription to Newsweek. Years ago, I regularly watched ABC's World News Tonight, but after Peter Jennings died...
Cathy
Scott in Florida - 19 Apr 2007 22:28 GMT >>> Now why does this post strike me as eminently sensible, yet pretty >>> funny? ;-P [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >What, like Rush? Tried listening to him a few times & couldn't *stand* it. You can't stand it because he nails liberals for what you really are!
>Talk about twisting info to fit one's own agenda. It was so obviously >ultra-right wing; not anywhere near center. Years before the oxycontin [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Cathy
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Truckdude - 19 Apr 2007 22:48 GMT >>>> Now why does this post strike me as eminently sensible, yet pretty >>>> funny? ;-P [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > You can't stand it because he nails liberals for what you really are! No longer bullshitable?
I admit that I give him a listen from time to time. He and his followers are always good for a laugh as they try to undo reality and it's well-known liberal bias.
>>Talk about twisting info to fit one's own agenda. It was so obviously >>ultra-right wing; not anywhere near center. Years before the oxycontin [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> >>Cathy Hachiroku ハチロク - 19 Apr 2007 23:38 GMT >>> Now why does this post strike me as eminently sensible, yet pretty >>> funny? ;-P [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >>> all of the local stations, so I can listen along the way as one signal >>> fades out, & another one becomes available. Try Glenn Beck. IIRC, you live in upstate NY? Get WGN from Schenectady, or too far for you (810AM) at 9 AM.
>> So when do you listen to an alternate point of view? > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Cathy badgolferman - 20 Apr 2007 01:07 GMT > > > Now why does this post strike me as eminently sensible, yet pretty > > > funny? ;-P [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Cathy There are other people than Rush Limbaugh to listen to for an alternate opinion. Peter Jennings was certainly not one of them.
Cathy F. - 20 Apr 2007 02:23 GMT >> > > Now why does this post strike me as eminently sensible, yet pretty >> > > funny? ;-P [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > There are other people than Rush Limbaugh to listen to for an alternate > opinion. Peter Jennings was certainly not one of them. I didn't say that he was; but that the ABC nightly world news to be one of my regular news sources, whereas it no longer is.
Cathy
Hachiroku ハチロク - 19 Apr 2007 23:37 GMT >>> Just out of curiosity (prompted by Mark_Digital's note in an OT thread >>> about [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > Cathy I used to listen to NPR a LOT. But I can't take "wait..wait.." It's a little too "High Brow" for me.
Car Talk used to be a lot better when they were local and actually talked about repairing cars. Since they went National (quite a while ago) it has gone less about actual car problems and more about humor. What really turned me off was that they even bothered to take a call from "Lexi, rhymes with Sexy" about a Lesbian custody fight over a Toyota truck. UGH. But they are funny guys. I met Tommy one time and he'll keep you laughing for hours! I love them, hate the show...
Morning Edition and All Things are GREAT shows. Over the years I have contributed to the local NPR stations to keep All Things on the air. It balances an afternoon of Rush Limbaugh...
And ya gotta love Michael Feldman and...er..."WHat's..." um, I forget... Oh, Whaddya Know?
But more often I listen to XM now.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 19 Apr 2007 18:04 GMT > Just out of curiosity (prompted by Mark_Digital's note in an OT thread > about how he carries a bag of CD's), what are you doing for tunes or talk [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > have an iPod port? Is it a asic audio input jack, a USB port or something > more exotic? What do you think is essential and what do you really use? Which car?!?!?!
Mazda: Aiwa CD player, no MP3 capability, $38 on E-Bay. Good sound through decent speakers (Infinitys in the rear, Clarions in the front). Bad point: No MP3 capability. Good point: Front panel AUX jack for my XM receiver and my phone. Sony Ericsson W300 w/MP3 player. The headphones came with the proprietary adapter, but it separates in the middle with a standard 1/4" phone jack. So, I can disconnect the jack from the XM and plug into the phone and play MP3s
http://tinyurl.com/pjd3k (Sony Ericsson W300)
Supra: JVC Arsenal AM/FM/CD/MP3/WMA player. Awesome unit! MB Quart speakers all the way around, 6.5" in front, 5" in rear. One Optimus 4X100 Watt amp. 12" "Sub" mounted in an old Pignose amp with a 265 Watt Optimus amp. http://www.pignoseamps.com/showdetail.php?id=256. We blocked off the back and 'ported' the front where the amp would be. No <THUMP>, but good bass! Seven band graphic EQ custome installed in the dash by Yours Truly. Good points: MP3 and WMA capability, good sound, easy to use. Bad points: No front panel input available; needs a $50 adapter from JVC to add MP3/CD/Ipod/XM. Sirius ready, so maybe when Siruis and XM merge I'll get the tuner. Need to flop the face forward to insert CDs. ~$65 on E-Bay (list $169)
LHS: (When I had it) JVC AM/FM/MP3 player. Not as many outputs as the one above, but I was using the speaker connections anyway. Same good/bad points as above, except has the CD slot in the open. $42 on E-Bay
Others: Sony XPlod AM/FM/CD. Not a lot of Bling, but has a built-in 7 band EQ and a LOT of power! Also needs a Sony Bus adapter for direct input. Don't like it as much as the JVCs, but it sure is LOUD!!! FREEBIE! Came out of a Neon someone traded in, got replaced with an older Alpine I had hanging around...
If you have the iPod and a phone that can connect, then get a front-panel AUX unit, or at least one that doesn't need a proprietary adapter. Some have RCA or 1/4" inputs on the back; with either you can run a cable inconspicuously out of the dash
My Scion still has the stock Pioneer sound system. I like the way it sounds. I upgraded to MB Quart speakers all the way around. It plays MP3s but needs a cable or an adapter (~$80) to add the XM/'Walkman'. Or, I can shell out $375 to Toyota to get the built-in XM receiver, but then can't use it in the other cars!
Truckdude - 19 Apr 2007 18:17 GMT >> Just out of curiosity (prompted by Mark_Digital's note in an OT thread >> about how he carries a bag of CD's), what are you doing for tunes or talk [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > out of a Neon someone traded in, got replaced with an older Alpine I had > hanging around... I had a Sony Xplod AM/FM/CD with the motorized face that look like nothing was there when closed. It started malfunctioning to where I could only use the remote control and then it just plain quit a month ago. Luckily I kept the original factory AM/FM/Cassette and I had to put it back in. Oh well, I got 5 or 6 years out of it.
> If you have the iPod and a phone that can connect, then get a front-panel > AUX unit, or at least one that doesn't need a proprietary adapter. Some [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > shell out $375 to Toyota to get the built-in XM receiver, but then can't > use it in the other cars! Hachiroku ハチロク - 20 Apr 2007 00:55 GMT >> Others: Sony XPlod AM/FM/CD. Not a lot of Bling, but has a built-in 7 >> band EQ and a LOT of power! Also needs a Sony Bus adapter for direct [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > kept the original factory AM/FM/Cassette and I had to put it back in. Oh > well, I got 5 or 6 years out of it. It's a good unit, LOTS of power and good sound, but has some quirks...
nm5k@wt.net - 19 Apr 2007 18:37 GMT > Just out of curiosity (prompted by Mark_Digital's note in an OT thread about > how he carries a bag of CD's), what are you doing for tunes or talk in your [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the car (headphones seem like a bad idea), there's no audio port on the > Toyota radio of '00. I just use the stock CD player/radio.. I burn my own music disks, and yes, they do have to be in normal CD format.. I tried one with MP3's and it wouldn't work. But I can burn them either way, so no big deal.. I listen to the talking heads quite a bit, but I also need my occasional blasts of music. I keep all my disks in the center console.. It's actually sized for that purpose I think.. They seem to fit pretty well. I listen to AM radio a lot on the road. IE: when I drive from Houston to Lake Eufaula, OK, I usually drive at night, and listen to the talking heads, or truck driver shows. I can start with Houston 740, and about halfway to Dallas, switch to Dallas 820. I can usually run 820 nearly the rest of the way. When I get to the lake, I can dial Tulsa 740, and listen to the local chatter, wx, etc.. I normally also have my ham radio in the car, but I've been too chicken@#$% to drill holes in the corolla yet, so no radio as of yet. But I need to rig something up, at least so I can use VHF/UHF in the car.. I usually also run HF, but I don't know if I can rig that on the corolla without a fairly heavy duty mount.. I normally drill a hole in the trunk, and reinforce the deck lid, but like I say, I've been too chicken to do that on the yota yet.. The car is near mint, and I hate to bugger it up.. All my other vehicles have all band antenna mounting. My accord has a drilled and reinforced trunk lid, but it is an 89, and didn't bother me much on it.. The radio I use in the cars is an Icom IC-706mk2g. It works all bands, HF through UHF, and is also a general coverage receiver/scanner for all those bands. IE: I can listen to nearly anything, including police, aircraft, etc, etc, ad nausium.. It's legal for me in any state cuz I'm NM5K. My FCC ham license overrides any local scanner laws, etc.. But I think I'm fixing to sell the 89 accord...It's kinda redundent with the 05 corolla sitting around.. I'm also gonna unload one of my ford trucks.. I'll be down to just the corolla and my 68 F-250. MK
Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute - 19 Apr 2007 18:50 GMT In message news:4627698e$0$16285$88260bb3@free.teranews.com, DH sprach forth the following:
> Just out of curiosity (prompted by Mark_Digital's note in an OT thread > about how he carries a bag of CD's), what are you doing for tunes or > talk in your Toyota? Sony CDX-GT510 AM/FM/CD with front aux in Sony XM-754HX amp Kicker 65.2 component speakers in front Pioneer TS-A6995 6x9 speakers in rear
This is in a 2001 Camry LE
Cathy F. - 19 Apr 2007 21:24 GMT > Just out of curiosity (prompted by Mark_Digital's note in an OT thread > about [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Has anyone got HD Radio capability? Nope.
> Do you listen to HD Radio? Nope.
Do you have
> an iPod port? Nope, don't even have an iPod.
Is it a asic audio input jack, a USB port or something more
> exotic? What do you think is essential and what do you really use? I have a combo tape/CD player, 6 speaker deal. (IIRC, it was one step up from what was the basic set-up.) It's more than enough, since I think I've played my old audio tapes all of... maybe 5 times in the 3 years I've had this car.
Cathy
Go Mavs - 19 Apr 2007 22:01 GMT my Yaris came with the standard CD player.. etc... I just have a book of CD's I take with me. I also don't leave my CD's in the car.
> Just out of curiosity (prompted by Mark_Digital's note in an OT thread > about [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > have an iPod port? Is it a asic audio input jack, a USB port or something > more exotic? What do you think is essential and what do you really use? Tomes - 20 Apr 2007 00:57 GMT > Just out of curiosity (prompted by Mark_Digital's note in an OT thread > about [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > something more exotic? What do you think is essential and what do you > really use? Here's my take on this. We have a Prius with the iPod port and my wife uses it much more than I do. It was a big drawing card for her. We had tried that FM transmitter thingy and it never sounded good. I had that cassette adapter that I used to use with my Disc-Man back then and it was a PITA too. So if you want to bring your own music along, then a port is the way to go if you don't want to deal with all those CDs (like I do in the Jeep and the Sienna).
Now, having said all that, I find that I really rarely hit the button to listen to my CDs anyway. Listening to live radio is where I am able to pick up new stuff. Stuff that I don't already have. If I have a CD or the iPod going I miss out on something that I have not heard before. So I do try to minimize the stored music unless there is really just nothing on, then I hit 'play'.
It is easy for me to say this. I live right in between NYC and Philadelphia. There is a plethora of stations to choose from here. My 10 FM button selections and my 5 AM ones are all filled with viable station choices. Curiously, there are few FM stations that I choose coming out of NYC, the better ones are in Philadelphia, or local. One of the favorites is a 'college' (not college kids tho) station nearby. This includes both music and talk. So I have better choices than most.
I know that this is not what you are looking for, as you want upgrade options, I just wish to advocate live radio (and that is live, not Clear Channel cookie-cutter drivel), especially down the left end of the dial, below 92, the stuff that you do not hear everyday. Tomes
dh - 20 Apr 2007 03:08 GMT >> Just out of curiosity (prompted by Mark_Digital's note in an OT thread >> about [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > NYC, the better ones are in Philadelphia, or local. One of the favorites > is a 'college' (not college kids tho) station nearby. Which college? I'll look them up if they "transmit" on the net.
> This includes both music and talk. So I have better choices than most. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > below 92, the stuff that you do not hear everyday. > Tomes Well, actually, I understand what you're getting at. Around here, there's a public radio station, The Current, that plays a lot of interesting new stuff, much of it good. I think they let the DJs pick their own music. And the range is wide, a little hip-hop, a little country, lots of contemporary rock, some jazz, some clasic rock. Recent playlist always available at: http://minnesota.publicradio.org/radio/services/the_current/songs_played/
They also offer a little extra exposure for local talent. I've bought a dozen or so CDs and some iTunes downloads after hearing artists on The Current.
There's another station here, KFAI, that's more of a "community" radio station. You hear interesting stuff on that, sometimes, but with each hour, you're never quite sure what language will be up next and if it's culturally too unfamiliar, it's difficult for me to get all that interested.
The University of Minnesota has a (loosely?) affiliated station, Radio K, which is good, but it's AM and reception is not wonderful.
I had asked about HD radio to see if it offered more choices. For me, that would be the advantage of HD.
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Tomes - 20 Apr 2007 03:57 GMT "dh" om...
> "Tomes" ... >> Now, having said all that, I find that I really rarely hit the button [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Which college? I'll look them up if they "transmit" on the net. WNTI, Centenary College, Hacketstown NJ: http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wnti/ppr/index.shtml It is much like what you describe below. The DJs are not college kids, but young professionals that do a very good job, and each has their own bend; on weekends it can get into the alternate language thing too. I end up on this a lot on the road.
Another good link that I listen to the most at home, and if I am in the car on weeknights: http://www.yrockonxpn.org/listen.php This is an alternative station in Philadelphia that lost its funding and went net-only . It then was picked up by another favorite station, WXPN, that broadcasts is every weeknight. It webcasts constantly all the time.
>> This includes both music and talk. So I have better choices than most. >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > culturally too unfamiliar, it's difficult for me to get all that > interested. I'll check both of these out, thanks.
> The University of Minnesota has a (loosely?) affiliated station, Radio > K, which is good, but it's AM and reception is not wonderful. > > I had asked about HD radio to see if it offered more choices. For me, > that would be the advantage of HD. I don't know about HD radio yet, I need to get over a lot of inertia on things like this. What I have now is pretty good by me. I don't do HDTV or satellite radio yet either, I just was not impressed enough in looking at in my friends' houses. XM in my brother's car was OK, just not better, except for reception in spots - I get the same stuff now with more local personality. Then again, I kept on buying albums after others switched to CDs too [grin]. Tomes
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