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Apr 28, 11:12 AM (ET) By KASIE HUNT WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush should sign legislation starting the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq on Oct. 1, retired Army Lt. Gen. William Odom said Saturday. "I hope the president seizes this moment for a basic change in course and signs the bill Congress has sent him," Odom said, delivering the Democrats' weekly radio address. Odom, an outspoken critic of the war who served as the Army's top intelligence officer and headed the National Security Agency during the Reagan administration, delivered the address at the request of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. He said he has never been a Democrat or a Republican. The general accused Bush of squandering U.S. lives and helping Iran and al-Qaida when he invaded Iraq. "The challenge we face today is not how to win in Iraq; it is how to recover from a strategic mistake: invading Iraq in the first place," he said. "The president has let (the Iraq war) proceed on automatic pilot, making no corrections in the face of accumulating evidence that his strategy is failing and cannot be rescued. He lets the United States fly further and further into trouble, squandering its influence, money and blood, facilitating the gains of our enemies." Odom said he doesn't favor congressional involvement in the execution of foreign and military policy, but argued that Bush had been derelict in his responsibilities. This week Congress passed an Iraq war spending bill that would require Bush to begin withdrawing troops from Iraq on Oct. 1. > Apr 28, 11:12 AM (ET) > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > responsibilities. This week Congress passed an Iraq war spending bill that > would require Bush to begin withdrawing troops from Iraq on Oct. 1. All true. Too bad that our friends on the right who are in denial can't see it.  SignatureIgnorance is patriotism. Truth is treason. >> Apr 28, 11:12 AM (ET) >> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > All true. Too bad that our friends on the right who are in denial can't > see it. Sorry about the missing OT. You are so right about denial by our right wing posters. Bush, otoh, is cynically playing for time til it won't be his problem anymore. Although, he has never seemed too involved or troubled with Iraq. >Apr 28, 11:12 AM (ET) > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq on Oct. 1, retired Army Lt. Gen. William >Odom said Saturday. Call him back in and send him to the front lines. He knows so much.... SignatureScott in Florida >>Apr 28, 11:12 AM (ET) >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Scott in Florida More knowledge than you, who has as much knowledge of military planning as a bag of hammers. >>>Apr 28, 11:12 AM (ET) >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >More knowledge than you, who has as much knowledge of military planning as a >bag of hammers. More knowledge than Harry S. Truman? SignatureScott in Florida I agree with Harry Truman http://www.rjgeib.com/heroes/truman/truman-atom-bomb.html > Apr 28, 11:12 AM (ET) > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > responsibilities. This week Congress passed an Iraq war spending bill that > would require Bush to begin withdrawing troops from Iraq on Oct. 1. What's he running for on the dim ticket? More importantly who's he getting paid by? DNC perhaps? How cozy. -- >> Apr 28, 11:12 AM (ET) >> [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > What's he running for on the dim ticket? More importantly who's he > getting paid by? DNC perhaps? How cozy. Translation: Anyone with more knowledge than you must be crooked. > >> Apr 28, 11:12 AM (ET) > >> [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > Translation: Anyone with more knowledge than you must be crooked. How sure are you that he is not on the DNC payroll? -- >> >> Apr 28, 11:12 AM (ET) >> >> [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > How sure are you that he is not on the DNC payroll? I have no idea, and neither do you. But, he *does* have far more military experience than you do. That's all you need to be concerned with. > >> >> Apr 28, 11:12 AM (ET) > >> >> [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > I have no idea, and neither do you. But, he *does* have far more military > experience than you do. That's all you need to be concerned with. We have to first follow the money, if that's possible. We would then learn of the motive. I have my suspensions about this guy. DNC?? -- >> >> >> Apr 28, 11:12 AM (ET) >> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > We have to first follow the money, if that's possible. We would then > learn of the motive. I have my suspensions about this guy. DNC?? You have your WHAT about this guy? >>> >> >> Apr 28, 11:12 AM (ET) >>> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > > You have your WHAT about this guy? Maybe he was attempting to get the thread a bit on topic? ;-) Cathy >>>> >> >> Apr 28, 11:12 AM (ET) >>>> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > > Cathy If you have one of your little students fix dbu's choice of words, I'll send the kid ten bucks, and I'm serious. But hush for now, OK? > >>> >> >> Apr 28, 11:12 AM (ET) > >>> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > > Cathy You should nip a little bit of that joy juice. LOL. -- >> >>> > How sure are you that he is not on the DNC payroll? >> >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > You should nip a little bit of that joy juice. LOL. I asked you a question. You have your WHAT about this guy? > >> >>> > How sure are you that he is not on the DNC payroll? > >> >>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > I asked you a question. You have your WHAT about this guy? Answer my numerous questions first then maybe I'll respond to yours. -- >> >> >>> > How sure are you that he is not on the DNC payroll? >> >> >>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Answer my numerous questions first then maybe I'll respond to yours. You are too drunk to think straight. You asked no questions today. If you disagree, repeat them. You cannot do that. > >> >> >> Apr 28, 11:12 AM (ET) > >> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > You have your WHAT about this guy? Bush will veto the dimmies surrender bill. This guy is for surrender. Wake up before it's too late. -- >> >> >> >> Apr 28, 11:12 AM (ET) >> >> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 82 lines] > > Bush will veto the dimmies surrender bill. Yeah. The heels of all of his shoes must need cleaning. This guy is for surrender. > Wake up before it's too late. This guy - along with a whole lot of other people - is for acting in a rational manner in the face of a situation that is beyond military action. Have you noticed "suspensions" instead of "suspicions"? ;-P Cathy > >> >> >> >> Apr 28, 11:12 AM (ET) > >> >> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 94 lines] > > Cathy I am thankful we have a president who does not care about his own personal legacy as did clinton and that he stands up for the U.S. against the terrorists. We/you should feel lucky we have such a person in the White House. The rest of the dims are all cowardly, look after their own a.ses and can't find their way in the dark. They are a hopeless bunch. -- >> >> >> >> >> Apr 28, 11:12 AM (ET) >> >> >> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 114 lines] > their own a.ses and can't find their way in the dark. They are a > hopeless bunch. You are drunk again. Come back tomorrow. >You are drunk again. Come back tomorrow. You are still a coward....like all the dims of today. Me? Bring on the football!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SignatureScott in Florida I agree with Harry Truman http://www.rjgeib.com/heroes/truman/truman-atom-bomb.html >>You are drunk again. Come back tomorrow. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Scott in Florida Football - an excuse for big gay men to jump on each other and grab some a.s. >>>You are drunk again. Come back tomorrow. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Football - an excuse for big gay men to jump on each other and grab some >a.s. Is that what you do in your spare time? It all starts to fall into place now! Gay Joey....is that sorta like Pal Joey? SignatureScott in Florida I agree with Harry Truman http://www.rjgeib.com/heroes/truman/truman-atom-bomb.html >I am thankful we have a president who does not care about his own >personal legacy as did clinton and that he stands up for the U.S. >against the terrorists. We/you should feel lucky we have such a person >in the White House. The rest of the dims are all cowardly, look after >their own a.ses and can't find their way in the dark. They are a >hopeless bunch. The dims will be the first to cry when we get hit again! Me? I'm here ready to solve the problem....just like a great Democrat Harry S. Truman did! SignatureScott in Florida I agree with Harry Truman http://www.rjgeib.com/heroes/truman/truman-atom-bomb.html > I am thankful we have a president who does not care about his own > personal legacy HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA! as did clinton and that he stands up for the U.S. > against the terrorists. We/you should feel lucky we have such a person > in the White House. The rest of the dims are all cowardly, look after > their own a.ses and can't find their way in the dark. They are a > hopeless bunch. > -- > > I am thankful we have a president who does not care about his own > > personal legacy > > HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA! Better go change your panties, the are all soiled again. > as did clinton and that he stands up for the U.S. > > against the terrorists. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > hopeless bunch. > > -- -- >> >> >> >> >> Apr 28, 11:12 AM (ET) >> >> >> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 112 lines] > against the terrorists. We/you should feel lucky we have such a person > in the White House. I feel terribly unlucky with such a person in the White House. At this point, I have a lot of company - most of the country. Cathy The rest of the dims are all cowardly, look after > their own a.ses and can't find their way in the dark. They are a > hopeless bunch. > >> >> >> >> .. > >> >> >> >> > [quoted text clipped - 119 lines] > > Cathy Wrong. You are assuming too much and basing too many assumptions on what you read and hear in the very liberal and biased media which by the way is for the most part a puppet of the DNC, with the exception of a very few. The polls say only about 60 percent want to bring home the troops. The numbers change quite drastically when you ask the question should we have victory in Iraq. Everybody wants the troops home, but not in defeat. As for Bush, every president has low polls in his last months of his last term. Bush is no different. 35-40 percent is not the entire country either. History and not the polls, will be the final judge of his acomplishments and his acomplishments will not become fully realized and appreciated for years to come. He will be looked upon in those coming years as one of the greatest presidents ever. Mark my word. > The rest of the dims are all cowardly, look after > > their own a.ses and can't find their way in the dark. They are a > > hopeless bunch. -- >> >> >> >> >> .. >> >> >> >> >> > [quoted text clipped - 144 lines] > months of his last term. Bush is no different. 35-40 percent is not > the entire country either. I said "most". Most = more than 50%. No matter the poll, GWB's had more than a 50% non-approval rating for a long time now. Mostly due to the disaster AKA the war in Iraq. History and not the polls, will be the final > judge of his acomplishments and his acomplishments will not become fully > realized and appreciated for years to come. He will be looked upon in > those coming years as one of the greatest presidents ever. Mark my > word. Believe me, I'm not. Cathy >> The rest of the dims are all cowardly, look after >> > their own a.ses and can't find their way in the dark. They are a >> > hopeless bunch. > >> >> >> >> .. > >> >> >> >> > [quoted text clipped - 153 lines] > than a 50% non-approval rating for a long time now. Mostly due to the > disaster AKA the war in Iraq. I'm sad to report, but most people don't think independently. It is much easier to follow than to lead. The liberal media in locked step with the democrats who are still stinging from the Bush conquest of their two leading hopefuls, Gore and kerry, continue to try revenge tactics and propaganda. They have been sucessful to a point. I am happy they continue to attack Bush because he will be running again you know. :) > History and not the polls, will be the final > > judge of his acomplishments and his acomplishments will not become fully [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >> > their own a.ses and can't find their way in the dark. They are a > >> > hopeless bunch. -- >I feel terribly unlucky with such a person in the White House. At this >point, I have a lot of company - most of the country. > >Cathy All you dims say this....but think about how horrible the country would be if the traitor Kerry and his lovely wife were in charge... The American people were right..... SignatureScott in Florida I agree with Harry Truman http://www.rjgeib.com/heroes/truman/truman-atom-bomb.html >>I feel terribly unlucky with such a person in the White House. At this >>point, I have a lot of company - most of the country. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Scott in Florida How is Kerry a traitor? >>>I feel terribly unlucky with such a person in the White House. At this >>>point, I have a lot of company - most of the country. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >How is Kerry a traitor? http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html http://www.thepatriette.com/archives/000125.html http://mongomutter.blogspot.com/2005/02/john-kerry-traitor-or-liar-you-make.html http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1091943/posts http://twominuteoffense.blogspot.com/2007/04/john-kerry-traitor-liar-fool.html http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/03/25/kerry_spoke_of_meeting_neg otiators_on_vietnam/ http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41106 http://www.nysun.com/article/3756 Just a few..... Kerry should have been tried for treason, but the mood of the country at the time would not allow it. SignatureScott in Florida I agree with Harry Truman http://www.rjgeib.com/heroes/truman/truman-atom-bomb.html >>>>I feel terribly unlucky with such a person in the White House. At this >>>>point, I have a lot of company - most of the country. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Scott in Florida I see. This is sort of like reports I heard of you raping a woman during your initial military training. >>>>>I feel terribly unlucky with such a person in the White House. At this >>>>>point, I have a lot of company - most of the country. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >I see. This is sort of like reports I heard of you raping a woman during >your initial military training. Joe you are a trip and obviously don't know a thing about military training. For your information when I was in boot camp there were no women anywhere around....LOL You try your bull sh.t and fail again. SignatureScott in Florida I agree with Harry Truman http://www.rjgeib.com/heroes/truman/truman-atom-bomb.html >>>>>>I feel terribly unlucky with such a person in the White House. At >>>>>>this [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > Scott in Florida No, Scott. It happened on leave, in the bathroom of a bar. I heard it. It must be true. >>>>>>>I feel terribly unlucky with such a person in the White House. At >>>>>>>this [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] >No, Scott. It happened on leave, in the bathroom of a bar. I heard it. It >must be true. > Let's see..... It was long time ago.... THERE IS NO LEAVE WHILE IN BOOT CAMP...... You lose....like you lose every time you ht the keyboard.... ROFLMAO SignatureScott in Florida I agree with Harry Truman http://www.rjgeib.com/heroes/truman/truman-atom-bomb.html >>>>>>>>I feel terribly unlucky with such a person in the White House. At >>>>>>>>this [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > > ROFLMAO Joe No Bedroom wouldn't have made it through Boot Camp, the DI would have made him 'DOR'. Charles of Schaumburg. > Bush will veto the dimmies surrender bill. This guy is for surrender. > Wake up before it's too late. Gen. Odom got it right from the beginning; GW Bush has been wrong from the start. You want to trust the guy who's been 100% wrong. GW Bush's plan for victory consists of adding another 10' to a 40' rope, but the person he wants to rescue from drowning is 100' away and can't swim. The more you kooks post the goofier you get LOL mike >> Bush will veto the dimmies surrender bill. This guy is for surrender. >> Wake up before it's too late. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > rope, but the person he wants to rescue from drowning is 100' away and > can't swim. >> Bush will veto the dimmies surrender bill. This guy is for surrender. >> Wake up before it's too late. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >rope, but the person he wants to rescue from drowning is 100' away and >can't swim. My plan for victory is to follow the great Democrat Harry S. Truman..... SignatureScott in Florida I agree with Harry Truman http://www.rjgeib.com/heroes/truman/truman-atom-bomb.html > > Bush will veto the dimmies surrender bill. This guy is for surrender. > > Wake up before it's too late. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > rope, but the person he wants to rescue from drowning is 100' away and > can't swim. Bush is 110 percent right, you are 120 percent wrong. -- > Apr 28, 11:12 AM (ET) > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq on Oct. 1, retired Army Lt. Gen. > William Odom said Saturday. Then al Qaeda will have to attack the US again. As long as the USA is hemorrhaging cash from its jugular by fighting two overseas wars, al Qaeda's plan to destroy the US by devastating its economy is running smoothly. If Bush ever does begin substantial troop withdrawal (and by that I don't mean vague promises of withdrawal with no solid timetable given) then expect a terror attack on US soil within a year. Two notes: 1. Should I be proven wrong, please feel free to throw this back in my face and laugh at me. I'll be so happy to be wrong about it, it won't even bother me. :-) 2. I'm not saying the US shouldn't withdraw from Iraq and/or Afghanistan. I'm just pointing out what will happen if it does. >> Apr 28, 11:12 AM (ET) >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > 2. I'm not saying the US shouldn't withdraw from Iraq and/or Afghanistan. > I'm just pointing out what will happen if it does. Why do you think there will be an attack here after troops are withdrawn? |
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