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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / June 2007{OT} new york, new york
NEW YORK - New Yorkers: They're smug, egotistical, and already think they run the country (if not the world). So what's the rest of the nation to do now that three of 'em are mentioned as White House hopefuls, ready to swap Penn Station for Pennsylvania Avenue? Cringe? Clap? Or just consider somebody else? "That's pretty sick," said Norm Whipple, 59, of Los Angeles, offering a wry grin about the presidential prospects of Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton, Republican Rudy Giuliani and unaffiliated New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg. "Someone has to keep an eye on those New Yorkers." The specter of an all-New York November 2008 was raised when Bloomberg, a titular Republican since his 2001 mayoral run, announced last week that he was quitting the GOP to become an independent. His predecessor, Giuliani, is running for the Republican nomination for president, while second-term New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is among the Democratic hopefuls. While New Yorkers are all too aware of the differences between the Big Apple's big three, folks beyond the Hudson River were not as certain. "I think basically they are the same candidate," said Bob Haus, a Republican from Des Moines, Iowa. "We all love New York. But when our options are New York, New York, New York, I think people want to see a different life experience." <http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070624/ap_on_el_pr/new_york_for_president_ 8;_ylt=AtnbHcNDqaJ0Y95khfryQ7QE1vAI> or http://tinyurl.com/3bv2cf -------------------- Looks like I'm not the only one who has had experience with New Yorkers. I fully agree all three of those candidates are basically the same. There is no such thing as a conservative politician from New York. If Giuliani gets the Republican nod this will be the first election I sit out. Sure, he had his moment and is probably a good leader but what this country needs right now is someone with good-old-fashioned conservative values in all areas to bring Americans back together as a nation, not as a bunch of factions. > NEW YORK - New Yorkers: They're smug, egotistical, and already think > they run the country (if not the world). So what's the rest of the [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > good-old-fashioned conservative values in all areas to bring Americans > back together as a nation, not as a bunch of factions. If the way people are driving is any indication on what direction this country is going to vote I wouldn't bet on any Republican winning the election. Mark_ > If the way people are driving is any indication on what direction this > country is going to vote I wouldn't bet on any Republican winning the > election. Have you heard of Ron Paul? > NEW YORK - New Yorkers: They're smug, egotistical, and already think > they run the country (if not the world). So what's the rest of the [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > good-old-fashioned conservative values in all areas to bring Americans > back together as a nation, not as a bunch of factions. What bad experience have you had with New Yorkers? > > Looks like I'm not the only one who has had experience with New > > Yorkers. I fully agree all three of those candidates are basically [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > What bad experience have you had with New Yorkers? I didn't say "bad" experience, did I? >> > Looks like I'm not the only one who has had experience with New >> > Yorkers. I fully agree all three of those candidates are basically [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I didn't say "bad" experience, did I? No, but it's implied. >> > Looks like I'm not the only one who has had experience with New >> > Yorkers. I fully agree all three of those candidates are basically [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I didn't say "bad" experience, did I? Implied it, big-time. As you have several times in the past. Cathy > >>> Looks like I'm not the only one who has had experience with New > >>> Yorkers. I fully agree all three of those candidates are [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Cathy Then you should already know what characteristics I'm "implying" of in this case. >> >>> Looks like I'm not the only one who has had experience with New >> >>> Yorkers. I fully agree all three of those candidates are [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Then you should already know what characteristics I'm "implying" of in > this case. Considering that parts of NY share certain characteristics with Iowa, impoverished hamlets in the Ozarks, and Paris, I doubt your generalization is meaningful in any way. This is why you are hesitant to describe it any further. > >>>>> Looks like I'm not the only one who has had experience with New > >>>>> Yorkers. I fully agree all three of those candidates are [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > generalization is meaningful in any way. This is why you are hesitant > to describe it any further. Considering my wife is a native New Yorker I am fully qualified to make a judgment regarding the characteristics of an average New Yorker. Also having lived there for five years I ran across quite a large cross section of personalities, but they almost all have similar qualities that they are either born with or learn very early on. The average New Yorker: rude, arrogant, tempermental, quick to jump to conclusions, easily annoyed, impatient, standoffish, unhelpful, selfish, immature. Obviously not all New Yorkers exhibit all those traits, but most do. Cathy is below average, you are way above average. Don't take it as an insult; wear it as a badge of honor. By the way, since I removed my wife from her home state she has come to realize people aren't supposed to be like the above description. She has come to appreciate the Southern mannerisms and has said she will never go back to live in New York. Everytime she goes to visit her family she comes back more grateful that our kids aren't growing up there.  Signature"When you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut." ~ Will Rogers >> >>>>> Looks like I'm not the only one who has had experience with New >> >>>>> Yorkers. I fully agree all three of those candidates are [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > family she comes back more grateful that our kids aren't growing up > there. Where in NY was your wife from? >> >>>>> Looks like I'm not the only one who has had experience with New >> >>>>> Yorkers. I fully agree all three of those candidates are [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > family she comes back more grateful that our kids aren't growing up > there. Funny, for one who lived for seven years in Manhattan as a child, I found just the opposite traits in New Yorkers in a visit there a couple of years ago. One small example - my wife and I took a crosstown bus on 59th st. from Bloomie's over to Columbus Circle. There was a female bus driver. At each stop, when someone got off at the front door, each and EVERY one of them thanked the driver, and the driver answered "You're Welcome". It's the only city or town I've ever been in where I witnessed this kind of genuine courtesy. And later, when we had to take a subway from downtown out to JFK, and were discussing where to get off, a young passenger who had spotted our luggage and intuited where we were going offered his own (very helpful) opinion of where we should disembark, saying "Trust me, I do this every day!" I found New Yorkers friendly, helpful, courteous and kind, just like boy scouts. just my 2c. > One small example - my wife and I took a crosstown bus on 59th st. > from Bloomie's over to Columbus Circle. There was a female bus > driver. At each stop, when someone got off at the front door, each > and EVERY one of them thanked the driver, and the driver answered > "You're Welcome". Obviously they were tourists. >> One small example - my wife and I took a crosstown bus on 59th st. >> from Bloomie's over to Columbus Circle. There was a female bus [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Obviously they were tourists. Right. "Tourists" with a Noo Yawk accent. If they were headed cross town they were most likely not tourists LOL mike >>> One small example - my wife and I took a crosstown bus on 59th st. >>> from Bloomie's over to Columbus Circle. There was a female bus [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Right. "Tourists" with a Noo Yawk accent. > The average New Yorker: rude, arrogant, tempermental, quick to jump to > conclusions, easily annoyed, impatient, standoffish, unhelpful, > selfish, immature. > > Obviously not all New Yorkers exhibit all those traits, but most do. So why does NYC have such low crime rates? > So why does NYC have such low crime rates? Maybe because the police enforce laws? Do a search of Mayor Giuliani and his "broken Window' theory of law enforcement, for the answer. mike >> So why does NYC have such low crime rates? > > Maybe because the police enforce laws? >> The average New Yorker: rude, arrogant, tempermental, quick to jump to >> conclusions, easily annoyed, impatient, standoffish, unhelpful, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > So why does NYC have such low crime rates? Because it is hopeless to report crimes there as nothing happens to the perps. >> So why does NYC have such low crime rates? > > Because it is hopeless to report crimes there as nothing happens to the > perps. The legacy of two RINO mayors. >> >>> Looks like I'm not the only one who has had experience with New >> >>> Yorkers. I fully agree all three of those candidates are [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Then you should already know what characteristics I'm "implying" of in > this case. And those characteristics are not "bad"?? Supposedly we're all brash & arrogant, acc. to you. You never seem to distinguish between NYC & the rest of the state, to begin with. (Although IMO, NYC tends to get an underserved bum rap.) NYS is a large place, very diversified, yet you lump us all together. Based on... I really don't know. And, considering you lump you wife in w/your particular view of the NY pkg... Grrrr... (on her behalf) Cathy > "I think basically they are the same candidate," Yep, they're all big-government AIPAC slaves. |
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