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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / June 2007{{ OT }} Barak Obama is out
I had high hopes for this guy, but it turns out he is an idiot. He is on the record as ranting against the Religious Right hijacking the party. That is a bad thing to say when you are wanting moderates of the religious right to jump ship and swim over to your boat. C 'ya Barak. It was nice to know you ... > I had high hopes for this guy, but it turns out he is an idiot. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > C 'ya Barak. It was nice to know you ... I was hoping he'd get the nomination, but the guy is self-destructing. >> I had high hopes for this guy, but it turns out he is an idiot. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I was hoping he'd get the nomination, but the guy is self-destructing. I'm with you all the way ... I thought he looked pretty good, and he's not even my party. I'm one of those he wanted to jump ship and swim over to his boat, but I see no point in jumping ship if all he's gonna do is toss me bricks ... >> I was hoping he'd get the nomination, but the guy is self-destructing. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > those he wanted to jump ship and swim over to his boat, but I see no > point in jumping ship if all he's gonna do is toss me bricks ... Don't get me wrong. I didn't mean I wanted him to be president, just get the nomination. Queen Hillary is pissed at his candidacy. That's more than enough reason to root for the guy. He is an extremist. Should most on the left even bother to look into what he believes, I doubt he'd get much support. And his religious history just makes me far too uncomfortable. In message news:LVZfi.2316$yp.1249@trnddc08, Jeff Strickland sprach forth the following: >>> I had high hopes for this guy, but it turns out he is an idiot. >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I thought he looked pretty good, Give me a break - the guy is a socialist state senator from one of the most corrupt states in the union. He backed his way into the US Senate when BOTH his primary AND general election opponents got brought down by scandal. He makes John Edwards look like an elder statesman. > > I thought he looked pretty good, > > Give me a break - the guy is a socialist state senator from one of the most > corrupt states in the union. When was the last time that we had a president who was from one of our less corrupt states? 1988? (Reagan) Reagan was a pretty good President, considering he came from the land of 'fruits and nuts.' LOL mike >> > I thought he looked pretty good, >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > When was the last time that we had a president who was from one of our > less corrupt states? 1988? (Reagan) > Reagan was a pretty good President, considering he came from the land of > 'fruits and nuts.' LOL > > mike Reagan was from Illinois. >>> In message news:LVZfi.2316$yp.1249@trnddc08, Jeff Strickland sprach >>> forth [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> When was the last time that we had a president who was from one of our >> less corrupt states? 1988? (Reagan)  SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com I did not know Reagan had been Governor of Illinois LOL mike >> Reagan was a pretty good President, considering he came from the land of >> 'fruits and nuts.' LOL >> >> mike > > Reagan was from Illinois. >>> Reagan was a pretty good President, considering he came from the land of >>> 'fruits and nuts.' LOL >>> >>> mike >> >> Reagan was from Illinois. >I did not know Reagan had been Governor of Illinois LOL > > mike Nobody said he was governor of Illinois, you air head. I did not know Illinois the land of 'fruits and nuts.' LOL mike . "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:eJegi.10998 >>>> Reagan was a pretty good President, considering he came from the land >>>> of 'fruits and nuts.' LOL [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Nobody said he was governor of Illinois, you air head. >I did not know Illinois the land of 'fruits and nuts.' LOL > > mike It isn't. Illinois is the "Land of Lincoln." California is "The Golden State." Florida is "God's Waiting Room." > "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:eJegi.10998 [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> Nobody said he was governor of Illinois, you air head. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >I did not know Illinois the land of 'fruits and nuts.' LOL > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> >> Nobody said he was governor of Illinois, you air head. Reagan was born in Illinois, and became by turns, a spectactular lifeguard, a very good radio announcer, a movie actor and governor of California. Arnie hasn't been a radio announcer yet, nor was he born in Illinois. People don't understand how Reagan could be so conservative coming from California. He didn't originate in California, his roots run deep in Illinois. Charles of Schaumburg > >> Give me a break - the guy is a socialist state senator from one of the > >> most corrupt states in the union. > > > > When was the last time that we had a president who was from one of our > > less corrupt states? 1988? (Reagan) > Reagan was a pretty good President, considering he came from the land of > 'fruits and nuts.' LOL Don't you mean the land of microchips, disk drives, and television, all which were invented in California? Not bad for a bunch of fruits and nuts. >> >> Give me a break - the guy is a socialist state senator from one of the >> >> most corrupt states in the union. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >all which were invented in California? Not bad for a bunch of fruits >and nuts. TV was invented in California? I think not.... http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When_was_television_invented SignatureScott in Florida There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. Will Rogers (1879 - 1935) > >> >> Give me a break - the guy is a socialist state senator from one of the > >> >> most corrupt states in the union. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When_was_television_invented I'm aware of the spinning disk technique (flying spot scanner) of generating TV signals, but I didn't know it was invented in the U.K. They are some clever Brits over there. I'm happy they are on our side, LOL. The all electron TV was developed by Farnsworth when he was in California. Signaturecarpetbagger: a person perceived as an unscrupulous opportunist > >> Reagan was a pretty good President, considering he came from the land of > >> 'fruits and nuts.' LOL [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When_was_television_invented I'm talking about modern electronic TV invented by Philo Farnsworth, not the impractical mechanical TV that required a spinning disk or prism to create the picture. By your standard, Edwin Armstrong didn't deserve credit for inventing FM radio because someone else had already built mechanical FM radios. > > >> Give me a break - the guy is a socialist state senator from one of the > > >> most corrupt states in the union. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > all which were invented in California? Not bad for a bunch of fruits > and nuts. The integrated circut was first invented by a Brit. An engineer from Texas Instruments holds the patent. Seagate developed the disk drive and Farnsworth invented television, both were located in California at the time. Signaturecarpetbagger: a person perceived as an unscrupulous opportunist > > > Reagan was a pretty good President, considering he came from the land of > > > 'fruits and nuts.' LOL [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > The integrated circut was first invented by a Brit. An engineer from > Texas Instruments holds the patent. Was the British IC monolithic like the one created by Robert Noyce (in California), or was it like the one by TI's George Kilby, which was just separate transistors on a single crystal? Engineers think a lot more of Noyce's design than Kilby's. > > > > Reagan was a pretty good President, considering he came from the land of > > > > 'fruits and nuts.' LOL [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > just separate transistors on a single crystal? Engineers think a lot > more of Noyce's design than Kilby's. You mentioned integrated circuts. The idea first surfaced in GB not California. Perhaps you are thinking more along the lines of microprocessors? Signaturecarpetbagger: a person perceived as an unscrupulous opportunist Any state that would pass a constitution amendment to ban the us of the safest, cleanest source of energy, in the name of clean energy, MUST be filled with nuts. Based on the laws coming out of San Fransicko as well as the decisions of the 9th circus court, the most overturned in our history, the state MUST be filled with fruits LOL mike >> > > > Reagan was a pretty good President, considering he came from the >> > > > land of [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Perhaps you are thinking more along the lines of microprocessors? > Any state that would pass a constitution amendment to ban the us of the > safest, cleanest source of energy, in the name of clean energy, MUST be [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > mike Especially the Bay area. Rest assured, not one BLOODY cent of my tourist budget will go to Frisco. >>> > > > Reagan was a pretty good President, considering he came from the >>> > > > land of [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> >> Perhaps you are thinking more along the lines of microprocessors? >> Any state that would pass a constitution amendment to ban the us of the >> safest, cleanest source of energy, in the name of clean energy, MUST be [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Especially the Bay area. Rest assured, not one BLOODY cent of my tourist > budget will go to Frisco. Because of the large gay population? >>> Any state that would pass a constitution amendment to ban the us of the >>> safest, cleanest source of energy, in the name of clean energy, MUST be [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Because of the large gay population? Are you really stupid, or just acting? We have at least three reasons (banning energy, banning stuff that uses less energy, and a court that is overturned more than any other in the history of the country) on record here to not visit San Francisco, and the first person that says, "yeah, I agree." You turn around and ask about a fourth reason not even under discussion? Jesus Christ! You are annoying. >>>> Any state that would pass a constitution amendment to ban the us of the >>>> safest, cleanest source of energy, in the name of clean energy, MUST be [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > You turn around and ask about a fourth reason not even under discussion? Quote (Mike Hunter) : "... the state MUST be filled with fruits LOL" Was he referring to CA's oranges? Doubt it. Cathy > Jesus Christ! You are annoying. >>>> Any state that would pass a constitution amendment to ban the us of the >>>> safest, cleanest source of energy, in the name of clean energy, MUST be [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Are you really stupid, or just acting? I believe slax responded to Khunter's use of the word "fruits". I want him to confirm his reason before continuing with this discussion. >>>>> Any state that would pass a constitution amendment to ban the us of >>>>> the safest, cleanest source of energy, in the name of clean energy, [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I believe slax responded to Khunter's use of the word "fruits". I want him > to confirm his reason before continuing with this discussion. Like you will continue ... The best we can hope for is a new irrelevent question. Let me rephrase that, the best we can hope for is your internet connection going down. >> Any state that would pass a constitution amendment to ban the us of the >> safest, cleanest source of energy, in the name of clean energy, MUST be [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >>> >>> Perhaps you are thinking more along the lines of microprocessors? I was shocked enough when I had to visit Los Angeles on business some years back at the alternate reality they have there. SF must be worse. There's the 9th Circus Court of Bananna Peels, the environuts, and then that doesn't even start to deal with some of the real issues I have with the place. I'll never go there. Charles of Schaumburg > I was shocked enough when I had to visit Los Angeles on business some > years back at the alternate reality they have there. SF must be worse. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Charles of Schaumburg Do you know how to pick up a quarter from the sidewalk on Polk Street? Kick it to Van Ness. Do you know the best pick up line in San Francisco? Can I push your stool in? >I had high hopes for this guy, but it turns out he is an idiot. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >C 'ya Barak. It was nice to know you ... It seems he is his own worst enemy. Hillary INC didn't have to fire a shot.... SignatureScott in Florida There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. Will Rogers (1879 - 1935) > Hillary INC didn't have to fire a shot.... Though I have no doubt the bunkers were full of ammo. >> Hillary INC didn't have to fire a shot.... > >Though I have no doubt the bunkers were full of ammo. Indeed. This will be the dirtiest campaign in history. No way for that bitch to be elected, otherwise..... SignatureScott in Florida There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. Will Rogers (1879 - 1935) >I had high hopes for this guy, but it turns out he is an idiot. > > He is on the record as ranting against the Religious Right hijacking the > party. That is a bad thing to say when you are wanting moderates of the > religious right to jump ship and swim over to your boat. He's right, though. Once again our friend Joe proves he is one of the lefty kooks LOL mike >>I had high hopes for this guy, but it turns out he is an idiot. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > He's right, though. >>>I had high hopes for this guy, but it turns out he is an idiot. >>> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >> He's right, though. > Once again our friend Joe proves he is one of the lefty kooks LOL > > mike You don't think the religious right influences politics? >>>>I had high hopes for this guy, but it turns out he is an idiot. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > You don't think the religious right influences politics? Of course they do! Just like the leftist liberals in San Francisco influence politics. There are two camps, the liberals that let anything fly, and the conservatives that believe in core values. As a matter of fact, core values generally arise out of practicing religion, and those that let anything fly generally shuns religion. Why do such simple concepts need to be explained to you? >>>>>I had high hopes for this guy, but it turns out he is an idiot. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Why do such simple concepts need to be explained to you? Are you & Hunter one and the same person? My question was directed at Hunter. SIT DOWN. >>>>>>I had high hopes for this guy, but it turns out he is an idiot. >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Hunter. > SIT DOWN. Your question is nonsensical. >>I had high hopes for this guy, but it turns out he is an idiot. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > He's right, though. That's not the point. The point is, he can't get elected unless moderates from the Republican party jump ship. Nobody is going to jump to his boat when he expresses radical views like that. PS I do not think that he is right at all. But, I'm a solid Right Winger ... > >>I had high hopes for this guy, but it turns out he is an idiot. > >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > PS > I do not think that he is right at all. But, I'm a solid Right Winger ... I'm afraid Oboma is floundering and it isn't even to the primaries yet. Signaturecarpetbagger: a person perceived as an unscrupulous opportunist >>>I had high hopes for this guy, but it turns out he is an idiot. >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > PS > I do not think that he is right at all. But, I'm a solid Right Winger ... I suspect that Republican moderates make jokes about Big Time Christians (self proclaimed saints from the right fringe) just as much as leftists do. BTCs might've had a molecule of credibility many years ago, but Jerry Falwell put an end to that. >I had high hopes for this guy, but it turns out he is an idiot. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > C 'ya Barak. It was nice to know you ... Don't ignore the fact that he is a deliberate liar! But then again, who believes a politician? DEMOCRATS who are dumber than an average Florida 4th grader! >I had high hopes for this guy, but it turns out he is an idiot. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > C 'ya Barak. It was nice to know you ... There is a growing trend among religious moderates, to whom Barack Obama is speaking, to reject the bloodthirsty, intolerant politics of the Christian right, to whom Obama is not speaking. If you're part of the Christian Right, then, Obama isn't interested in you or courting your vote. There's also a groundswell of interest in evangelicals in "stewardship" of the Earth. Religious moderates aren't going to tolerate the hate politics of Robertson, Roberts and their ilk any longer. At least, I hope not. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >>I had high hopes for this guy, but it turns out he is an idiot. >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Robertson, > Roberts and their ilk any longer. At least, I hope not. Why would you expect anybody to tolerate the "hate politics" of Barak Obama? I consider myself to be a moderate Republican, and I had more than passing interest in Obama. But now he is scratched off my list. I am only one voter, but there are millions just like me, and if they too scratch him from the list of candidates they would entertain voting for, then Obama is in a world of hurts. >>>I had high hopes for this guy, but it turns out he is an idiot. >>> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > from the list of candidates they would entertain voting for, then Obama is > in a world of hurts. Why would it be "hate politics" to say the the Christian Right has hijacked the Republican party? That's just observation. If Obama's a Democrat, then I'd expect him to try and line up the main Democrat factions behind him and to reach out to moderates to prove his "electability," which has significant influence over many primary voters. It would be craziness to court the far right wing of the Republican party or the far-right Christians there. He's going to "moderates," who believe that there's such a thing as too much mixing of politics and religious agendas, who believe that freedom of religion requires a strict wall of separation and who are tired of the rantings of the Robertsons, Roberts and Joneses. If I read the tea leaves correctly, Obama may well find significant support there. Another growing religious faction would be evangelicals concerned with stewardship of the Earth and, consequently, any effect we may be having on Global Warming. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >>>>I had high hopes for this guy, but it turns out he is an idiot. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > religion requires a strict wall of separation and who are tired of the > rantings of the Robertsons, Roberts and Joneses. I said the same thing - via different & fewer words, a day or two ago... Why would he expend time & energy & $$ on a group he has no realistic hope in winning over? People far to the right - no practical use trying to court; moderates, OTOH... Cathy > If I read the tea leaves correctly, Obama may well find significant > support there. > > Another growing religious faction would be evangelicals concerned with > stewardship of the Earth and, consequently, any effect we may be having on > Global Warming. >I had high hopes for this guy, but it turns out he is an idiot. > > He is on the record as ranting against the Religious Right hijacking the > party. Yeah, well... unfortunately I think he's correct on that point. > That is a bad thing to say when you are wanting moderates of the religious > right to jump ship and swim over to your boat. The religious right are way over on one end of the spectrum, vs. being moderates, AFAICT. And I can't see that B. Obama would really be counting on their votes, anyway. True moderates, yes. People at the far right edge of the spectrum, no. Cathy > C 'ya Barak. It was nice to know you ... >>I had high hopes for this guy, but it turns out he is an idiot. >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Cathy All the generalizations are absurd. I know a BTC (big time Christian) whose opinion of Bush is summed up in one word: Pig. She says her entire family feels that way, as well as a dozen people she's spoken to at her megachurch in Tennessee. There *are* religious people who know that the word "Republican" is not mentioned anywhere in the bible. >>>I had high hopes for this guy, but it turns out he is an idiot. >>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >in Tennessee. There *are* religious people who know that the word >"Republican" is not mentioned anywhere in the bible. ROFL.... Is that something like you half million dollar bet without showing the money????? SignatureScott in Florida There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. Will Rogers (1879 - 1935) |
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