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That Guy - 05 Jul 2007 18:03 GMT
Goddamned brainwashed cons and head-in-the-clouds libs constantly posting
political propaganda are like 5 year-olds who keep sh.tting in the pool.

If you could think for yourself, you wouldn't be crapping out your idiotic
parrotings in the Toyota group.

To the rest of you, I apologize for the rant and I hope there's a moderated
Toyota group soon.
edspyhill01@yahoo.com - 05 Jul 2007 18:11 GMT
> Goddamned brainwashed cons and head-in-the-clouds libs constantly posting
> political propaganda are like 5 year-olds who keep sh.tting in the pool.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> To the rest of you, I apologize for the rant and I hope there's a moderated
> Toyota group soon.

Subscribe here and report the egregious polical screeds.  It will work
if the complaints are more than one or two.

http://groups.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.sightings/topics?hl=en

We've cleaned up a few music groups.

http://groups.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.sightings/topics?hl=en

Ed S.
JoeSpareBedroom - 05 Jul 2007 18:24 GMT
>> Goddamned brainwashed cons and head-in-the-clouds libs constantly posting
>> political propaganda are like 5 year-olds who keep sh.tting in the pool.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Ed S.

Google is just another way of viewing newsgroups, but all Google can
(potentially) do is filter them for people who view the groups via Google.
They have no control whatsoever over the newsgroups themselves.
edspyhill01@yahoo.com - 05 Jul 2007 19:09 GMT
> <edspyhil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Why force people to have to filter out the dross when there are a
sufficient number of group for political discussion.  The filtering
aregument is specious and self-serving.

Ed S.
JoeSpareBedroom - 05 Jul 2007 19:12 GMT
>> > Subscribe here and report the egregious polical screeds.  It will work
>> > if the complaints are more than one or two.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Ed S.

Question: Do you read all the car-related discussions in this newsgroup?
Hachiroku ハチロク - 05 Jul 2007 19:47 GMT
>> <edspyhil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>
> Ed S.

You've been here long enough to see this suggestion doesn't carry a lot of
wait.

I even mentioned it whe I first got here, and have joined the fray myself...
Wickeddoll® - 05 Jul 2007 18:24 GMT
<edspyhill01@yahoo.com> ...
, "That Guy" :
>> Goddamned brainwashed cons and head-in-the-clouds libs constantly posting
>> political propaganda are like 5 year-olds who keep sh.tting in the pool.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Ed S.

Doesn't that only affect those who post with Google?

I agree the OT stuff is out of hand, but there are really very few who
generally start the OT threads.  Killfile anyone you find particularly
offensive, and that should work.  However, the ever-reliable Toyotas don't
leave much room for on-topic musings.

Also, if you ever have a question about your car (Toyota or not), you get
swift answers here.

Natalie
edspyhill01@yahoo.com - 05 Jul 2007 19:14 GMT
On Jul 5, 1:24 pm, "Wickeddoll?"
<wickeddoll1958NoEffingS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> <edspyhil...@yahoo.com> ...
> , "That Guy" :
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>
> - Show quoted text -

I have tried several news readers and found nothing as easy to use as
Google but Google doesn't provide filters, ASAIK.  I don't think it is
fair to force people to endure the vitriolic and out of control OT
political rants and ravings of true believers.

Ed S.
JoeSpareBedroom - 05 Jul 2007 19:18 GMT
On Jul 5, 1:24 pm, "Wickeddoll®"
<wickeddoll1958NoEffingS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> <edspyhil...@yahoo.com> ...
> , "That Guy" :
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>
> - Show quoted text -

I have tried several news readers and found nothing as easy to use as
Google but Google doesn't provide filters, ASAIK.  I don't think it is
fair to force people to endure the vitriolic and out of control OT
political rants and ravings of true believers.

Ed S.

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Hachiroku ハチロク - 05 Jul 2007 19:45 GMT
> On Jul 5, 1:24 pm, "Wickeddoll®"
> <wickeddoll1958NoEffingS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
> Ed S.

http://pan.rebelbase.com

download 0.14.2 (I don't like the newest version, but that's just me...)
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Scott in Florida - 05 Jul 2007 20:01 GMT
>I have tried several news readers and found nothing as easy to use as
>Google but Google doesn't provide filters, ASAIK.  I don't think it is
>fair to force people to endure the vitriolic and out of control OT
>political rants and ravings of true believers.
>
>Ed S.

Don't let the door hit you in the arse on your way out.....

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Scott in  Florida

There ought to be one day-- just one--
when there is open season on senators.

    Will Rogers (1879 - 1935)

edspyhill01@yahoo.com - 05 Jul 2007 20:27 GMT
On Jul 5, 3:01 pm, Scott in Florida <Justtofakeoutliber...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:14:04 -0700, "edspyhil...@yahoo.com"
>
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>
>      Will Rogers (1879 - 1935)

haha, you are one word wizard.
Wickeddoll® - 05 Jul 2007 20:08 GMT
<edspyhill01@yahoo.com>
"Wickeddoll®"
wrote:
> , "That Guy" :
>
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> - Show quoted text -

I have tried several news readers and found nothing as easy to use as
Google but Google doesn't provide filters, ASAIK.  I don't think it is
fair to force people to endure the vitriolic and out of control OT
political rants and ravings of true believers.

Ed S.

But here, as with most Usenet forums, the posts are unmoderated.  It's too
bad, but it really comes down to if you really hate off-topic posts, perhaps
this isn't the forum for you.  There are lots of other Toyota forums,
including MDT's Yahoo group, that one can frequent.

You and I both know that OT rants only get the flames going.

Natalie
Cathy F. - 05 Jul 2007 20:59 GMT
On Jul 5, 1:24 pm, "Wickeddoll®"
<wickeddoll1958NoEffingS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> <edspyhil...@yahoo.com> ...
> , "That Guy" :
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*I have tried several news readers and found nothing as easy to use as
Google
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What??!  Google Groups is a royal PITA to use for reading/posting, AFAIC.
Klutzy as all get-out.  I've used it only if absolutely needed - the few
times my news servers have been on the fritz, for ex.
```````````````````
* but Google doesn't provide filters, ASAIK.  I don't think it is fair to
force people to endure the vitriolic and out of control OT
* political rants and ravings of true believers.
* Ed S.
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You know what?  This ng is not moderated, so it's what the posters make of
it.  You can complain, but that doens't mean anything will change.  Unless a
good number of the regulars change their posting habits.  Which I wouldn't
count on, if I were you. ;-)

Cathy
Ernie Sty - 05 Jul 2007 19:19 GMT
> <edspyhill01@yahoo.com> ...
> , "That Guy" :
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>
> Natalie

Good advice Natalie.  One problem though, some of the people who give good
advice (and are often the quickest to do so) are among the offenders.
PLONKing them would degrade my own experience with the group more than the
OT posts do.  A moderated group would prevent them from partaking in their
addiction to posting political stuff here, but still allow them to post
on-topic stuff (assuming they would stick around after their political posts
stopped showing up...)
JoeSpareBedroom - 05 Jul 2007 19:23 GMT
>> <edspyhill01@yahoo.com> ...
>> , "That Guy" :
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
> on-topic stuff (assuming they would stick around after their political
> posts stopped showing up...)

Do you read ALL the car-related messages in this newsgroup?
Hachiroku ハチロク - 05 Jul 2007 19:43 GMT
>> Also, if you ever have a question about your car (Toyota or not), you
>> get swift answers here.
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> Good advice Natalie.  One problem though, some of the people who give good
> advice (and are often the quickest to do so) are among the offenders.

*I* always begin one of my Off-Topic tireades with (OT:)
If EVERYONE did this, and then those of you who don't like off-topic
tirades filterd out (OT:) it would work.

Of course, you'd have to *start* the thread with (OT:)

...like this one wasn't...
Scott in Florida - 05 Jul 2007 20:03 GMT
On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 18:43:23 GMT, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@AE86.gts>
wrote:

>*I* always begin one of my Off-Topic tireades with (OT:)
>If EVERYONE did this, and then those of you who don't like off-topic
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>...like this one wasn't...

Me thinks he needs to get his arse out of here....

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Scott in  Florida

There ought to be one day-- just one--
when there is open season on senators.

    Will Rogers (1879 - 1935)

edspyhill01@yahoo.com - 05 Jul 2007 20:30 GMT
On Jul 5, 3:03 pm, Scott in Florida <Justtofakeoutliber...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 18:43:23 GMT, Hachiroku ???? <Tru...@AE86.gts>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
>      Will Rogers (1879 - 1935)

You are too stupid for me to even wish/hope/pray I could have an
intelligent conversation with you.  Suffice to say if the door hits me
in the arse and it has a picture of Dubya or Hanity on it you'll want
to kiss the boo-boo.
Scott in Florida - 05 Jul 2007 20:32 GMT
>On Jul 5, 3:03 pm, Scott in Florida <Justtofakeoutliber...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>in the arse and it has a picture of Dubya or Hanity on it you'll want
>to kiss the boo-boo.

ROFLMAO

Don't let the door hit you in the sensitive liberal arse on the way
out....

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Scott in  Florida

There ought to be one day-- just one--
when there is open season on senators.

    Will Rogers (1879 - 1935)

edspyhill01@yahoo.com - 05 Jul 2007 20:40 GMT
On Jul 5, 3:32 pm, Scott in Florida <Justtofakeoutliber...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 12:30:14 -0700, "edspyhil...@yahoo.com"
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Where I come from sensitive didn't work.  Lucky you wont provoke that
proof in person.
Scott in Florida - 05 Jul 2007 20:52 GMT
>On Jul 5, 3:32 pm, Scott in Florida <Justtofakeoutliber...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
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>Where I come from sensitive didn't work.  Lucky you wont provoke that
>proof in person.

Why not?

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Scott in  Florida

There ought to be one day-- just one--
when there is open season on senators.

    Will Rogers (1879 - 1935)

witfal - 05 Jul 2007 20:57 GMT
> Where I come from sensitive didn't work.  Lucky you wont provoke that
> proof in person.

A keyboard flex !!!  I love keyboard flexing.

Be careful.  Some plastics won't bend that far.
Scott in Florida - 05 Jul 2007 21:11 GMT
>> Where I come from sensitive didn't work.  Lucky you wont provoke that
>> proof in person.
>
>A keyboard flex !!!  I love keyboard flexing.
>
>Be careful.  Some plastics won't bend that far.

<grin>

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Scott in  Florida

There ought to be one day-- just one--
when there is open season on senators.

    Will Rogers (1879 - 1935)

mack - 05 Jul 2007 21:08 GMT
"Scott in Florida" <Justtofakeoutliberals@yahoo.com> wrote in message >
ROFLMAO

> Don't let the door hit you in the sensitive liberal arse on the way
> out....

Jeez, I think this is the second time this year I've agreed with Scott.
The OP got his dander up (That Guy) and then EdSpy took his part.   I don't
think I've ever seen That Guy's handle in this ng before, so I have to
wonder who died and made him the great arbiter in the sky for the group.
To me, an infrequent poster in any group really doesn't have the right
(except in his own mind) to quibble about how the group operates and what
should be considered OT postings.   The old saying "If you don't like the
heat, stay out of the kitchen" should apply.
Anyway, there are subject lines in every post ...and if you're not
interested in the subject, you can simply *****IGNORE***** the post(s).
Scott in Florida - 05 Jul 2007 21:13 GMT
>"Scott in Florida" <Justtofakeoutliberals@yahoo.com> wrote in message >
>ROFLMAO
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>Anyway, there are subject lines in every post ...and if you're not
>interested in the subject, you can simply *****IGNORE***** the post(s).

We would probably get along just fine.

We would not agree on everything, but what the hell is the fun in
that?

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Scott in  Florida

There ought to be one day-- just one--
when there is open season on senators.

    Will Rogers (1879 - 1935)

Ernie Sty - 05 Jul 2007 23:41 GMT
> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 18:43:23 GMT, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@AE86.gts>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Me thinks he needs to get his arse out of here....

Posting about the group itself is OK, because this group is the only place
it is on topic.
edspyhill01@yahoo.com - 05 Jul 2007 20:40 GMT
On Jul 5, 2:43 pm, Hachiroku      <Tru...@AE86.gts> wrote:
> >> Also, if you ever have a question about your car (Toyota or not), you
> >> get swift answers here.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> ...like this one wasn't...

hachi, wickeddoll, JoeSpareBedroom,

There is nothing wrong with OT posts.  They have to happen because we
are not single idea beings.  No matter  what the context of any group,
politics HAS to become part of the discussion landscape.  But most of
what passes for discussions are really some tablarasa personalities
acting like O'Reilly, Hanity, Limbaugh.

I find many of the OT discussions here very interesting until the 3 or
4 loons drop in for some grade school bully banter.

Ed S.
witfal - 05 Jul 2007 20:58 GMT
> I find many of the OT discussions here very interesting until the 3 or
> 4 loons drop in for some grade school bully banter.

Like keyboard flexing.
Cathy F. - 05 Jul 2007 21:00 GMT
> On Jul 5, 2:43 pm, Hachiroku      <Tru...@AE86.gts> wrote:
>> >> Also, if you ever have a question about your car (Toyota or not), you
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> I find many of the OT discussions here very interesting until the 3 or
> 4 loons drop in for some grade school bully banter.

Welcome to Usenet.

Cathy

> Ed S.
witfal - 05 Jul 2007 21:16 GMT
> Welcome to Usenet.

I've heard it described as "controlled anarchy".

And I'm not too sure about the "controlled" part.
Scott in Florida - 05 Jul 2007 21:17 GMT
>> Welcome to Usenet.
>
>I've heard it described as "controlled anarchy".
>
>And I'm not too sure about the "controlled" part.

No control is a good thing!


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Scott in  Florida

There ought to be one day-- just one--
when there is open season on senators.

    Will Rogers (1879 - 1935)

witfal - 05 Jul 2007 21:18 GMT
>>> Welcome to Usenet.
>>
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>
> No control is a good thing!

Works for me.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 06 Jul 2007 03:57 GMT
>> Welcome to Usenet.
>
> I've heard it described as "controlled anarchy".
>
> And I'm not too sure about the "controlled" part.

Many people think alt. stands for Alternate or Alternative.

It stands for Anarchists, Lunatics and Terrorists.
Ernie Sty - 05 Jul 2007 23:39 GMT
>>> Also, if you ever have a question about your car (Toyota or not), you
>>> get swift answers here.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Of course, you'd have to *start* the thread with (OT:)

Some people start with (OT)
Some start with OT:
Some start with [OT]
Some start with {OT}
I believe there are others as well.

In other words, you have to a number of searches and mass message deletions.
By the time you finish, there's more of the things.  Why not just stop
posting political stuff here when there are political groups?  I am starting
to think it's a compulsion or addiction or something.

Also, I don't think this thread is off-topic.  Any topic that concerns the
newsgroup itself isn't off-topic, IMO.  Some may disagree of course.
Wickeddoll® - 05 Jul 2007 19:59 GMT
"Ernie Sty" ...

> "Wickeddoll®" ...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
> on-topic stuff (assuming they would stick around after their political
> posts stopped showing up...)

Oh, they're not going anywhere.

My computer crashed recently, but I'll try to find your OT rant rebuttal and
repost it.

I think it's on my external HD.

:-)

Natalie
Ernie Sty - 05 Jul 2007 23:42 GMT
> "Ernie Sty" ...
>>
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>
> Natalie

Thanks!    Wait, what??
Wickeddoll® - 05 Jul 2007 23:53 GMT
"Ernie Sty" ...

> "Wickeddoll®"  ...
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 56 lines]
>
> Thanks!    Wait, what??

You did a great rant on OT cops - or do I have you mixed up with someone
else?

Natalie
Ernie Sty - 06 Jul 2007 16:36 GMT
> "Ernie Sty" ...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 64 lines]
>
> Natalie

I think I do remember that now.  However, my feelings have changed
considerably due to the fact that the OT posts seem to be increasing
exponentially.
Wickeddoll® - 06 Jul 2007 20:23 GMT
"Ernie Sty"...

> "Wickeddoll®"  ...
>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 66 lines]
> considerably due to the fact that the OT posts seem to be increasing
> exponentially.

Good point - it's worse than ever.

Natalie
kev - 06 Jul 2007 00:55 GMT
On 05 Jul 2007, the world was enlightened by Wickeddoll®'s opinion about...

> Also, if you ever have a question about your car (Toyota or not), you get
> swift answers here.
>
> Natalie

OK Nat, I'll bite.  How come most Toyotas are butt-ugly, especially Echos?

kevstartsarunnin'

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Elmo P. Shagnasty - 06 Jul 2007 01:03 GMT
> > Also, if you ever have a question about your car (Toyota or not), you get
> > swift answers here.
> >
> > Natalie
>
> OK Nat, I'll bite.  How come most Toyotas are butt-ugly, especially Echos?

Because the American public is buying them like crazy.
mack - 06 Jul 2007 01:17 GMT
> On 05 Jul 2007, the world was enlightened by Wickeddoll®'s opinion
> about...
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> kevstartsarunnin'

yeah, kev, you'd better put on your track shoes.
Natalie is a very tolerant person, normally, but slam an Echo, and you'd be
happier wrestling with a crocodile!
Wickeddoll® - 06 Jul 2007 01:23 GMT
"mack" ...

> "kev"
the world was enlightened by Wickeddoll®'s opinion
>> about...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Natalie is a very tolerant person, normally, but slam an Echo, and you'd
> be happier wrestling with a crocodile!

LOL nah, Kev and I go way back.  I'll just hurt him, not kill him, since he
supplies my NG access...

Natalie
kev - 06 Jul 2007 01:50 GMT
On 05 Jul 2007, the world was enlightened by Wickeddoll®'s opinion
about...

> "mack" ...
>>
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>
> Natalie

Hurt me Nat!   :)

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Wickeddoll® - 06 Jul 2007 01:58 GMT
"kev" <
the world was enlightened by Wickeddoll®'s opinion
> about...
>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> kev

I'm telling Kim

Natalie
kev - 06 Jul 2007 02:05 GMT
On 05 Jul 2007, the world was enlightened by Wickeddoll®'s opinion
about...

> "kev" <
> the world was enlightened by Wickeddoll®'s opinion
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>
> Natalie

:P

kev

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kev - 06 Jul 2007 01:40 GMT
On 05 Jul 2007, the world was enlightened by mack's opinion about...

>> On 05 Jul 2007, the world was enlightened by Wickeddoll®'s opinion
>> about...
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Natalie is a very tolerant person, normally, but slam an Echo, and you'd
> be happier wrestling with a crocodile!

I aint afeared of no Nat!

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Wickeddoll® - 06 Jul 2007 01:22 GMT
"kev"
the world was enlightened by Wickeddoll®'s opinion about...

>> Also, if you ever have a question about your car (Toyota or not), you get
>> swift answers here.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> kevstartsarunnin'

Too late - I know where you live, remember?!

Natalie
kev - 06 Jul 2007 01:40 GMT
On 05 Jul 2007, the world was enlightened by Wickeddoll®'s opinion
about...

> "kev"
>  the world was enlightened by Wickeddoll®'s opinion about...
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Natalie

hehehe, for another week or so you do.  neener neener!

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Roadrunner NG - 05 Jul 2007 22:54 GMT
Actually, It kind of reflects on Toyota owners; that is, they are deep
thinking type people, at least half of them, the other half will disagree,
and that's where the fun starts.

> Goddamned brainwashed cons and head-in-the-clouds libs constantly posting
> political propaganda are like 5 year-olds who keep sh.tting in the pool.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> To the rest of you, I apologize for the rant and I hope there's a
> moderated Toyota group soon.
 
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