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(OT:) How to spin the news 101

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Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 Aug 2007 10:09 GMT
On the BBC they spoke with a scientist from the Univ of North Carolina
about the diminishing coral reefs in the Pacific and Indian oceans. When
the reporter asked if it was 'climate change', the professor said, "Well,
yes, climate change is a factor, but there are others as well, such as an
increase in predators, an increase in fishing in these areas, and <another
I didn't quite hear...>"

On the News report at the top of the hour, the female reporter reiterated
the headline:

"Coral reefs in the Pacific and Indian Oceans are receding. A reseacher
from the Univ of North Carolina says the decline is a result of Global
Warming."

Well, he *did* after all, didn't he?
JoeSpareBedroom - 08 Aug 2007 12:58 GMT
> On the BBC they spoke with a scientist from the Univ of North Carolina
> about the diminishing coral reefs in the Pacific and Indian oceans. When
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Well, he *did* after all, didn't he?

Actually, no. He didn't, if the words you showed, above, were the exact
words used.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 Aug 2007 21:46 GMT
>> On the BBC they spoke with a scientist from the Univ of North Carolina
>> about the diminishing coral reefs in the Pacific and Indian oceans. When
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> Actually, no. He didn't, if the words you showed, above, were the exact
> words used.

They are. I heard it twice.
JoeSpareBedroom - 08 Aug 2007 21:54 GMT
>>> On the BBC they spoke with a scientist from the Univ of North Carolina
>>> about the diminishing coral reefs in the Pacific and Indian oceans. When
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>
> They are. I heard it twice.

OK. Then he didn't say "global warming". He said "climate change".
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 Aug 2007 22:13 GMT
>>>> On the BBC they spoke with a scientist from the Univ of North Carolina
>>>> about the diminishing coral reefs in the Pacific and Indian oceans.
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>>
> OK. Then he didn't say "global warming". He said "climate change".

Semantics. It was initially the reporter who said 'climate change'.

The female headline reader was the one that said 'Global Warming'.
JoeSpareBedroom - 08 Aug 2007 22:16 GMT
>>>>> On the BBC they spoke with a scientist from the Univ of North Carolina
>>>>> about the diminishing coral reefs in the Pacific and Indian oceans.
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>
> The female headline reader was the one that said 'Global Warming'.

YOU are spinning the news now.

In 6 weeks, my mums will begin flowering due to climate change. Not global
warming. Climate change.

If you hadn't been busy fantasizing about banging your mom & siblings, you
might have learned about climate change in science classes.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 09 Aug 2007 02:02 GMT
> If you hadn't been busy fantasizing about banging your mom & siblings, you
> might have learned about climate change in science classes.

That's just plain f.cking low.
JoeSpareBedroom - 09 Aug 2007 04:26 GMT
>> If you hadn't been busy fantasizing about banging your mom & siblings,
>> you
>> might have learned about climate change in science classes.
>
> That's just plain f.cking low.

Yeah, it is. It's as close as I can get to dumping a bucket of ice cold
water on your head, from this electronic distance.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 09 Aug 2007 10:45 GMT
>>> If you hadn't been busy fantasizing about banging your mom & siblings,
>>> you
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> Yeah, it is. It's as close as I can get to dumping a bucket of ice cold
> water on your head, from this electronic distance.

Waht for? Did you read the original post?

Here, let me reiterate: The researcher was asked if 'climate change' was
responsible.

He said, Yes, among other factors.

when the top of the hour news came on, the reporter said 'Global Warming'
was the culprit.

The BBC uses 'climate change' and 'global warming' interchangeably. The
second reporter failed to include the other factors.

Therefore, the second reporter was trying to imply global warming was the
only cause.

Now, what about that didn't you quite understand? I made it clear enough
for a 3rd grader to understand.

Should I have termed it at a First grade level?
JoeSpareBedroom - 09 Aug 2007 12:29 GMT
>>>> If you hadn't been busy fantasizing about banging your mom & siblings,
>>>> you
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>
> Should I have termed it at a First grade level?

OK - now that I see how you're interpreting this, you have my heartfelt
apology for making your teenage fantasies public. But, be careful. I'm
watching you closely.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 09 Aug 2007 19:23 GMT
>> The BBC uses 'climate change' and 'global warming' interchangeably. The
>> second reporter failed to include the other factors.
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> apology for making your teenage fantasies public. But, be careful. I'm
> watching you closely.

Um...gee...thanks! I think...

That's something like the Nat'l Lampoon 10th Anniv, where they had a
bathroom wall with 'kudos' graffitti written on it. One said, "My mother
would have loved you if she hadn't OD'd in the crapper...Liza Minelli"

Well her lawyers sent them a letter, saying retract it and apologize or
we'll sue your a.ses into the next millenium. So, a couple months later,
there was a full page apology...basically apologizing for Judy Garland
OD'ing in the crapper!!!

I never heard anything about it after that...
Hachiroku ハチロク - 09 Aug 2007 02:05 GMT
>>>>>> On the BBC they spoke with a scientist from the Univ of North
>>>>>> Carolina about the diminishing coral reefs in the Pacific and Indian
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>>
> YOU are spinning the news now.

READ THE f.cking ORIGINAL POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HE said Climate Change.

The hourly headline reporter said Global Warming.

That's the whole point of the f.cking post.

Never mind splitting f.cking hairs. The point of the post was the BBC spun
what he said.

If you can't stay with the f.cking program, and all you can do is make
cracks about my relatives, then how about just SHUTTING THE f.ck UP?!?!?!
witfal - 08 Aug 2007 15:34 GMT
> On the BBC they spoke with a scientist from the Univ of North Carolina
> about the diminishing coral reefs in the Pacific and Indian oceans. When
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Well, he *did* after all, didn't he?

Some people talk the talk, others walk the walk:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp
Roadrunner NG - 08 Aug 2007 17:57 GMT
Now Nancy will have to amend the freedom "from" information act to silence
the newsgroups too!
They don't want that kind of dangerous information to get out.

>> On the BBC they spoke with a scientist from the Univ of North Carolina
>> about the diminishing coral reefs in the Pacific and Indian oceans. When
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>
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp
witfal - 08 Aug 2007 18:12 GMT
> Now Nancy will have to amend the freedom "from" information act to silence
> the newsgroups too!
> They don't want that kind of dangerous information to get out.

An interesting observation.  I've always stood in awe when people call
conservatives
"Nazis", then proceed with censorship efforts suiting their agenda.

And, in all fairness, these idiots aren't confined to either party.  
Trent Lott is the
most recent convert to these efforts.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 Aug 2007 21:45 GMT
>> On the BBC they spoke with a scientist from the Univ of North Carolina
>> about the diminishing coral reefs in the Pacific and Indian oceans. When
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp

(Shhh...don't tell DH that Gore's house uses 12 times more energy than the
average home...he'll blow a gasket...

But, actually he won't because to him, words mean more than actions...)
witfal - 08 Aug 2007 22:37 GMT
>> Some people talk the talk, others walk the walk:
>>
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>
> But, actually he won't because to him, words mean more than actions...)

I don't care who thinks "concern" proves good intentions or anything else of
a redeeming nature.  It's a ridiculous and indefensible position.

If you're going to preach it, you'd better be practicing it.  If not,
guess what
that makes you.

If, and I stress IF, I believed in man-made global warming, I'd much rather
see a community of Bush homes than Gore homes.  And if I don't give credit
where credit is due, then that also makes me a...well...you know.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 09 Aug 2007 02:01 GMT
>>> Some people talk the talk, others walk the walk:
>>>
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> guess what
> that makes you.

A...a...a...HYPOCRITE!!!

I've said it a million times!

> If, and I stress IF, I believed in man-made global warming, I'd much
> rather see a community of Bush homes than Gore homes.  And if I don't give
> credit where credit is due, then that also makes me a...well...you know.

Hey, Al offsets his over use with "Carbon Credits". At least it makes him
*feel* good...
 
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