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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / August 2007about the wireless internet
aparently verizon fios has it built into there system and all i had to do was get the pass word to sign in...  Signature~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Your terrorist's Islam! Qur'an 5:51 "Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends." > aparently verizon fios has it built into there system and all i had to do > was get the pass word to sign in... It's (wireless) built into the router they give you. But you don't have to use the wireless router with fios if you don't want to. >> aparently verizon fios has it built into there system and all i had to do >> was get the pass word to sign in... > > It's (wireless) built into the router they give you. yeah >But you don't have to use the wireless router with fios if you don't want >to. What do you mean? Why would I not use it? > What do you mean? Why would I not use it? I am not suggesting that you shouldn't use it. You said wireless is built into fios. No, fios is a technology like DSL, Cable, etc that is used to transmit the internet to your home. The wireless is not built into fios. The wireless is built into the particular router (as an extra feature) that they used to connect fios to your computers via hardware. They could have used a regular (non-wireless) router and you would still have fios. Or you could use a regular non-wireless router at the entry point of the fios router with wireless capability with the wireless turned off) and install your own wireless router inside your home. >> What do you mean? Why would I not use it? > > I am not suggesting that you shouldn't use it. > > You said wireless is built into fios. No, fios is a technology like DSL, Yeah, I was being general. I mean the router that they supply. > Cable, etc that is used to transmit the internet to your home. The > wireless is not built into fios. The wireless is built into the particular [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > capability with the wireless turned off) and install your own wireless > router inside your home. >>> aparently verizon fios has it built into there system and all i had to do >>> was get the pass word to sign in... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > What do you mean? Why would I not use it? Well, if you don't have any wireless devices, like wireless laptops. If all the computers you have are wired desktops, you don't want to use the wireless, to make it harder for people to break in. Jeff >>>> aparently verizon fios has it built into there system and all i had to >>>> do was get the pass word to sign in... [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Jeff Yeah, I don't keep anything personal on my laptop... > "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message <...> > Yeah, I don't keep anything personal on my laptop... Is that why the call it an "impersonal computer?" Someone who breaks into the computer can later use it to send out spam and do other nasty things. jeff >> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message > <...> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > jeff What can I do to protect myself from that? >>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> <...> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > What can I do to protect myself from that? Get a good firewall. Zone Alarm is my favoriate. Whenever a program tries to access the internet, it won't let it through until you give it permission. This is a little annoying, but much better than the Windows firewall, which only prevents traffic from coming in, but doesn't do a thing to prevent unwanted traffic out. Jeff >>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> <...> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Jeff For programs you always trust, you can tell ZoneAlarm to not nag you after the first time it asks. Why is it that they sometimes call them WiFi and WLan? >>> What can I do to protect myself from that? >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > For programs you always trust, you can tell ZoneAlarm to not nag you after > the first time it asks. A good router, configured properly, has a hardware firewall. Hardware firewalls are superior to software. I only use WEP key and no MAC filtering. I disabled my 2Wire DSL modem WEP a few days and found 3 computers already using my connection. > A good router, configured properly, has a hardware firewall. Hardware > firewalls are superior to software. > I only use WEP key and no MAC filtering. I disabled my 2Wire DSL modem > WEP a few days and found 3 computers already using my connection. > > > > A good router, configured properly, has a hardware firewall. Hardware > > firewalls are superior to software. I second that about hardware firewalls. To check out your system for vulnerability go here: https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 Follow instructions. Signature"Fire up a colortini, sit back, relax, and watch the pictures, now, as they fly through the air." Tom Snyder >>>> What can I do to protect myself from that? >>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > A good router, configured properly, has a hardware firewall. Hardware > firewalls are superior to software. Hardware firewalls are really software firewalls that run on a computer, which is in the router. They, too, can be hacked. The best protection is to have both types of software firewalls: Those that run on your computer and those that run on the computer in the router. Jeff > >>>> What can I do to protect myself from that? > >>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Jeff I have not found anyone yet to breach a router (hardware) firewall. Signature"Fire up a colortini, sit back, relax, and watch the pictures, now, as they fly through the air." Tom Snyder >> A good router, configured properly, has a hardware firewall. Hardware >> firewalls are superior to software. > > Hardware firewalls are really software firewalls that run on a > computer, which is in the router. Not exactly. It's properly called "firmware". > They, too, can be hacked. It can certainly be re-flashed, as has been done by me on various routers over the years. > The best protection is to have both types of software firewalls: Those > that run on your computer and those that run on the computer in the > router. As you wish, but another poster did point out www.grc.com. Steve Gibson gives a great resource as to whether or not your PC is even visible on the Net. Personally, I've always found software firewalls to be a pain. A good enterprise quality router is the best defense. >>> A good router, configured properly, has a hardware firewall. >>> Hardware firewalls are superior to software. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Personally, I've always found software firewalls to be a pain. A good > enterprise quality router is the best defense. Gee, most of us don't buy "enterprise quality" routers for home use. Most of us don't have enterprise at home, either. I disagree with you about whether a good router is the best defense. The best defense is a good router with a firewall combined with antivirus software, a firewall that prevents unwanted programs from accessing the internet (which few routers do), anti-spyware and anti-virus software and not doing stupid things, like open attachment from people you don't know. Jeff >> Personally, I've always found software firewalls to be a pain. A good >> enterprise quality router is the best defense. > > Gee, most of us don't buy "enterprise quality" routers for home use. > Most of us don't have enterprise at home, either. There are routers that would not be labelled enterprise, but certainly have firewalls hardened enough for home use. I used the phrase "enterprise quality" to refer to those. For example, an SMC Barricade as compared to a Linksys or DLink would be a good choice. > I disagree with you about whether a good router is the best defense. > The best defense is a good router with a firewall combined with > antivirus software, a firewall that prevents unwanted programs from > accessing the internet (which few routers do), anti-spyware and > anti-virus software and not doing stupid things, like open attachment > from people you don't know. I can greed to a point. In this era, you'd have to be foolish to not take every precaution you can stand to protect a WinBox. I don't worry about viruses or spyware as none of them affect OSX. I don't even worry about being directly hacked due to OSX's characteristics. That's not to say that someone won't be successful one day in breaking into a Mac, but it just hasn't been done yet unless the Mac was left open intentionally to prove a concept. A router is sufficient for me. I open any attachment I want, sometimes just out of sadistic curiosity. It's interesting what people try to send. Too bad these idiots don't use their talents for good rather than trying to ruin someone's day. >>> Personally, I've always found software firewalls to be a pain. A >>> good enterprise quality router is the best defense. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > take every precaution you can stand to protect a WinBox. I don't worry > about viruses or spyware as none of them affect OSX. It's true that far fewer viruses affect the Mac, but the Mac is not immune to viruses. <http://antivirus.about.com/od/macintoshresource/Macintosh_Viruses_and_Mac_Virus_ Resources.htm> http://www.sophos.com/pressoffice/news/articles/2006/02/macosxleap.html > I don't even worry > about being directly hacked due to OSX's characteristics. That's not to > say that someone won't be successful one day in breaking into a Mac, but > it just hasn't been done yet unless the Mac was left open intentionally > to prove a concept. A router is sufficient for me. A Mac running with factory settings will protect you from viruses much better than a PC, but it’s never a bad idea to run extra virus and security software." - Apple Computer <http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/security_response/weblog/2006/07/macinenterpr ise_mac_os_x_virus.html> > I open any attachment I want, sometimes just out of sadistic curiosity. > It's interesting what people try to send. Too bad these idiots don't > use their talents for good rather than trying to ruin someone's day. Most aren't trying to ruin anyone's day. Most are trying to make a living. Unfortunately, the companies that pay to send out the spam are trying to rip people off. Of course, many people writing virus software are just scum, just like the people who pay to send out spam to rip people off. Jeff >> I can greed to a point. In this era, you'd have to be foolish to not >> take every precaution you can stand to protect a WinBox. I don't worry [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > immune to viruses. > <http://antivirus.about.com/od/macintoshresource/Macintosh_Viruses_and_Mac_Virus_ Resources.htm> http://www.sophos.com/pressoffice/news/articles/2006/02/macosxleap.html You can listen to what they say, or what the real world has to offer. There has been no, repeat NO, successful infection of a Mac in the wild. Proof of concept is not the same thing. In each case when a POC has been successful, the Mac was left open intentionally. A perfect analogy would be to leave the door key under the mat, and have a burglar be "successful" in breaking into your home. >> I don't even worry about being directly hacked due to OSX's >> characteristics. That's not to say that someone won't be successful [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > <http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/security_response/weblog/2006/07/macinenterpr ise_mac_os_x_virus.html> I have a virus scanner. I'm on the net constantly. I've never been infected, nor has my neighbor who's been running Macs for years. It just doesn't happen. Symantec has an agenda. FUD is their game, and they play it quite well. And they're the last group whose softwared I'd use for any platform. Winboxes crawl under the burden of the overhead of Symantec malware prevention. The cure is definitely worse than the disease. That said, I wouldn't bet the farm that someone, somewhere, one day will do it to a Mac. It just isn't in the cards yet. >> I open any attachment I want, sometimes just out of sadistic curiosity. >> It's interesting what people try to send. Too bad these idiots don't [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > living. Unfortunately, the companies that pay to send out the spam are > trying to rip people off. I'm not speaking of spam, but virus writers whose sole purpose is just to turn your box into a brick. There's a special place in Hell for them. > Of course, many people writing virus software are just scum, just like > the people who pay to send out spam to rip people off. Exactly. >>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> <...> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > What can I do to protect myself from that? http://17.149.160.10/ >>> aparently verizon fios has it built into there system and all i had to >>> do was get the pass word to sign in... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > What do you mean? Why would I not use it? One possibility: You don't yet have enough knowledge to secure a wireless connection, and you need time to read about it. Another: Your computer never leaves the desk, and the modem's a foot away. > aparently verizon fios has it built into there system and all i had to do > was get the pass word to sign in... Yeah, you can sort of read about the Fios system on WikiPedia (I say sort, because it is not easy reading). There are three parts to the Fios (which is why they say three colors or three frequencies or something like that), one for TV signal, one for incoming internet and one for outgoing internet. PPV comes over the incoming internet and commands go out over the outgoing internet. You should so not that you don't get wireless internet, just wired internet. You still have to get a wireless router to get the wireless part (and connect it to the wired internet). Jeff > aparently verizon fios has it built into there system and all i had > to do was get the pass word to sign in... Hi GoMavs. I am a Verizon FiOS Network Technician. The router you are supplied is an Actiontec brand with MoCA capability built into it. If you have video service with us you will need that router or a special MoCA Network Interface Modelue (NIM) will be needed for your SetTopBoxes to receive Widgets, VOD, clock, IPG. Chances are pretty good you will need that router anyway because it is probably hooked up to the Optical Network Terminal (ONT) outside your house by coax and not by ethernet cord. The router does have built in wireless capability with 40/64 bit WEP or 128 bit security. Personally I like MAC filtering for my wireless router also. In any case if you want more information regarding FiOS write back to this thread or e-mail me. Yes, that's what I said three days ago. > aparently verizon fios has it built into there system and all i had to do > was get the pass word to sign in... You need to secure your router so the boradband deadbeats don't steal the signal from you. > aparently verizon fios has it built into there system and all i had to do > was get the pass word to sign in... |
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