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Wickeddoll® - 27 Aug 2007 23:48 GMT
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20438234/site/newsweek/

Honda is trying to exterminate the "cockroaches."

:-)

Natalie

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Cathy F. - 28 Aug 2007 01:07 GMT
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20438234/site/newsweek/
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> Natalie

Have just printed it out, to read the whole article.  So far, online, got as
far as:

"...Honda is trying electroshock therapy on its hybrids."
;-)

Cathy
Tegger - 28 Aug 2007 01:26 GMT
>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20438234/site/newsweek/
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> "...Honda is trying electroshock therapy on its hybrids."
> ;-)

Might be better to study the "big picture" CAFE figures rather than
the discrete numbers for a couple of glitzy "greener than thou" show cars.

<http://uspolitics.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.nhtsa.gov/car
s/rules/CAFE/FuelEconUpdates/2003/index.htm
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This is a reprint of the NHTSA's mandated CAFE results.

See GM? It has few hybrids (none?), yet tops some of these
CAFE figures.

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dh - 28 Aug 2007 03:20 GMT
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> Tegger

Uh-huh.  Of course, if Toyota stopped selling trucks, they'd still be making
money and if GM stopped selling trucks, they'd go out of business in about
20 minutes.

Does this report, by any chance, include the generous fudge factor they
throw in for E-85 capability that practically no one buying an E-85-capable
vehicle actually uses?  Why, yes, it does.

Which GM cars offer 40+mpg?  Y'all let me know.  I'd sure like to be getting
40+mpg in a GM car.  Let me know when I can find a Volt in a Chevy showroom.

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Wickeddoll® - 28 Aug 2007 03:38 GMT
"dh" ...
> "Tegger" ...
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> getting 40+mpg in a GM car.  Let me know when I can find a Volt in a Chevy
> showroom.

Dayum - are you gonna give GM any slack... ever?

Natalie
GoMavs - 28 Aug 2007 04:34 GMT
> Dayum - are you gonna give GM any slack... ever?
>
> Natalie

Thats all that have. Ugly slacks!
Art - 28 Aug 2007 07:08 GMT
4 years ago....

>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20438234/site/newsweek/
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> See GM? It has few hybrids (none?), yet tops some of these
> CAFE figures.
GoMavs - 28 Aug 2007 04:33 GMT
>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20438234/site/newsweek/
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> Have just printed it out, to read the whole article.  So far, online, got
> as far as:

Way to go. Good waste of paper and electricity on printing it.
mark_digital© - 28 Aug 2007 10:34 GMT
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> Natalie

I know what you need.  :)P
Wickeddoll® - 29 Aug 2007 00:07 GMT
"mark_digital©" ...

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> I know what you need.  :)P

Heh - I'm perfectly happy with my pregnant roller skate, thanks

;-)

Natalie
mark_digital© - 29 Aug 2007 20:20 GMT
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> Natalie

I can't tell if you're referring to your Echo's shape or your shape. If it's
your shape, congrats.  My wife delivered a cute little one the other day.
The mother said she didn't know she was pregnant.  Everyone I tell the whole
story to roll their eyes.
Her clinic isn't setup for deliveries so it came as a surprise when the
woman started yelling from the bathroom. She said to my wife she had this
urge to push and before they knew it, she was squatting and out plopped the
baby. A little black one with lots of hair, screaming a mile a minute.
Wickeddoll® - 29 Aug 2007 23:48 GMT
"mark_digital©" ...

> "Wickeddoll®" ...
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> day. The mother said she didn't know she was pregnant.  Everyone I tell
> the whole story to roll their eyes.

BITE YOUR TONGUE!  I stopped delivering little ones back in 1990!

I meant the Echo dah-ling.  And I feel sorry for that kid you mentioned.

> Her clinic isn't setup for deliveries so it came as a surprise when the
> woman started yelling from the bathroom. She said to my wife she had this
> urge to push and before they knew it, she was squatting and out plopped
> the baby. A little black one with lots of hair, screaming a mile a minute.

Gawd, whatta maroon.

That's similar to how I was born, actually.  My mom was a teenager and quite
clueless.  Went to see the doc cuz she wasn't feeling well.  She *knew* she
was preggers though.

Even from childhood, I endeavored not only to have children with my
*husband*, and when I'm an *adult*, but that if I had more than one, they'd
have the same father.

I was successful.

:-)

Natalie
zammy - 28 Aug 2007 19:30 GMT
TO A DIPSHIT 'GREENIE' EVERYTHING IS BAD....
the sky is falling...

> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20438234/site/newsweek/
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Wickeddoll® - 29 Aug 2007 00:08 GMT
"zammy" ...
> TO A DIPSHIT 'GREENIE' EVERYTHING IS BAD....
> the sky is falling...

huh?  It's not about that - it's about Honda trying to regain their hybrid
cred.

Natalie

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dbu` - 29 Aug 2007 00:23 GMT
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> Natalie

I was impressed today with a Honda civic.  A large tree had fallen right
on the top of it with hardly any damage to the roof, it didn't cave in
as I thought it would.  Honda must really do a good job in reinforcing
the roof for rollover accidents.  I give Honda a gold star.  

We had 71 mph wind gust this morning in a storm.  So a few trees bit the
dust.

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Wickeddoll® - 29 Aug 2007 00:57 GMT
"dbu`" ...
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> We had 71 mph wind gust this morning in a storm.  So a few trees bit the
> dust.

I'll bet.  Reminds me of the *four* hurricanes we had in Florida back in
2004.  We've since moved, and my family doesn't want me to move back.  I
told them we had the hurricanes because the Air Force had sent my hubby
overseas.  Those hormones had to vent *some* way.

:-)

Natalie
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 29 Aug 2007 01:23 GMT
> I was impressed today with a Honda civic.  A large tree had fallen right
> on the top of it with hardly any damage to the roof, it didn't cave in
> as I thought it would.  Honda must really do a good job in reinforcing
> the roof for rollover accidents.

A couple years ago, a family with a couple older kids and a very wee one
in backward car seat was on an outing to the zoo in their Honda Odyssey,
a couple years old at the time.  Some people in front, some in the
middle, some in the back.  Cement truck following them goofed and didn't
stop in time.  To avoid a rear ender, he swung the wheel left then
right, but was going too fast and was out of control and ended up
toppling the big mixer end of the truck ON TOP OF said Odyssey.

Van was crushed.  The pictures were frightening.

All passengers walked away.  Literally.  Missed the baby by a few
inches, but that was good enough.

You want a safe car?  Buy an Odyssey.
Wickeddoll® - 29 Aug 2007 01:57 GMT
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> You want a safe car?  Buy an Odyssey.

Well, yeah, a minivan would be way safer, but I think the point was that
despite the Honda being a smaller vehicle, it held up well.

Natalie
 
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