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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / September 2007

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Seat belt retractor

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Jonathan.Fillion@gmail.com - 05 Sep 2007 21:48 GMT
Hi all,

I want to tighten up the seat belt retractors on my '98 Tercel -- I
don't want to spend money and buy new ones as that's an old car and
all I want is for them to pull harder on the belt (they get actually
worst in the winter when it's -30 celcius).

I've managed to remove one and somewhat figure out how it works; it
has two plastic covers, one on each side, with each the dreaded "DO
NOT REMOVE" mention written on them. The right cover seems to protect
the clutch mechanism (the mechanism that makes it block if you pull
too hard or if the unit is not straight up). It also protects the min/
max limits of the actual mechanism.

I'm pretty sure the left cover hides the spring that would need to be
tightened up. The questions is: when I remove that cover, does the
spring pop up flying around like crazy? has anyone done this before?

I know the retractor is not normally a serviceable part (that's what
the Toyota deal told me anyways), but I'm just wondering if there's
anything I can do about it.

Thanks,
Jonathan
Tegger - 05 Sep 2007 22:10 GMT
Jonathan.Fillion@gmail.com wrote in news:1189025332.747499.163840
@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

> Hi all,
>
> I want to tighten up the seat belt retractors on my '98 Tercel -- I
> don't want to spend money and buy new ones as that's an old car and
> all I want is for them to pull harder on the belt (they get actually
> worst in the winter when it's -30 celcius).

Are you having trouble getting the belts to retract? Clean the upper loop
where the shoulder belt starts. It may look clean, but it's not.

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Hachiroku ハチロク - 06 Sep 2007 03:11 GMT
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:48:52 -0700, Jonathan.Fillion wrote:

> Hi all,
>
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> Thanks,
> Jonathan

If you don't know what you're doing, PUT IT BACK AND LEAVE IT ALONE!!!!

Sorry, but don't mess with it. You may 'fix' it, and it may look ok, but
then, if needed, it may not catch.

Take Tegger's advice and clean it. If that doesn't work, go to a wrecking
yard and buy another or two, and try them, or, at least, PRACTICE on them
first and see what happens!
Jonathan.Fillion@gmail.com - 06 Sep 2007 03:34 GMT
On Sep 5, 10:11 pm, Hachiroku      <Tru...@AE86.gts> wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:48:52 -0700, Jonathan.Fillion wrote:
> > Hi all,
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> yard and buy another or two, and try them, or, at least, PRACTICE on them
> first and see what happens!

Yeah, you're absolutely right that I don't want to mess with it unless
there's an obvious way to tighten it up (which there doesn't seem to
be)...

I tried cleaning the upper loop where the should belt starts but it
wasn't really that dirty (I used rubbing alcohol), so it didn't
improve the situation much. I cleaned up other exterior parts (the
retractor's 'pulley') and it still didn't really improve. At this
point I'm pretty much convinced that the internal spring mechanism
gets lose over time.

It all seems like I'm going to have to live with it :(
Ray O - 06 Sep 2007 06:09 GMT
> Hi all,
>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Thanks,
> Jonathan

There are no serviceable parts in the seat belt retractor.  As TeGGer
mentioned, try cleaning the loop in the seat belt guide.  Also look at the
belt itself where it passes through the guide.  If the belt has become
fuzzy, especially at the edges, the fuzz adds friction.  You can use very
fine sandpaper and enlarge the guide so that the fuzz causes less
resistance.  Make sure you polish the guides so that they are shiny again.
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Ph@Boy - 06 Sep 2007 15:34 GMT
> Hi all,
>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Thanks,
> Jonathan

I have done what you want to try before with unsuccessful results. I
managed to tighten it, and then the spring wound tight before reaching
the belt limit which in turn limited the belt length. I would advise you
to do what Ray mentioned and in addition, if you think that it needs
lubrication which normally it does not, use a spray silicone lubricant
only. Do not use a petroleum based product as the residue will collect
unwanted dust and dirt possibly fouling the mechanism. If you can't get
it to work and safety is a concern, I would opt for a new OEM part. IMHO.
 
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