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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / November 2007

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Key needed for Lug Nuts on 2004 Corolla.  Where, how much?

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Nate Goulet - 27 Nov 2007 20:32 GMT
I bought a 2004 Corolla S in July.  It needed new tires, and didn't
notice the wheels have a lock on each one.

I finally had them removed and had the tires changed.  I'm missing a
lug nut for all 4 wheels currently, and either need to purchase a key,
replacement set of locks or regular lug nuts.

Before I start shopping, has anyone bought these?

The tire place told me a Toyota dealer could make me a new key for $5,
but I tend to doubt that.   What does a new set of 4 cost?  How about
plain lug nuts?

                               Thanks.
JoeSpareBedroom - 27 Nov 2007 21:04 GMT
>I bought a 2004 Corolla S in July.  It needed new tires, and didn't
> notice the wheels have a lock on each one.
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>
>                                Thanks.

I don't know what they cost. But, you shouldn't be driving around with a lug
nut missing. Are you really so cheap that you can't stop at an auto supply
store and pick up some plain ones? Seriously.

If you really need to know the price for the locking ones, go to a site like
www.autozone.com and do some research.  Or, call the parts department at the
nearest Toyota dealership. That's where I got mine.
Nate Goulet - 29 Nov 2007 18:14 GMT
Thanks for the advice.

Two tires places told me 4 lug nuts were needed, the 5th one was more
cosmetic.  From what i'm hearing here, that doesn't seem to be true.

When I had the tires changed, I forgot to ask them to replace them
with regular lug nuts.  When I remembered a half hour later, they
already had my wheels off (I was told a 2 hour wait).  The mechanic
said he'd just leave them off.  It was too late to change my paperwork
by the point.

I just wanted to find out what people had to say, but it seems they
need to be replaced ASAP in any case.  Thanks.
Jeff - 30 Nov 2007 00:49 GMT
> Thanks for the advice.
>
> Two tires places told me 4 lug nuts were needed, the 5th one was more
> cosmetic.  From what i'm hearing here, that doesn't seem to be true.

Gee, I would get all 5. I don't know if it is just cosmetic, but what if
one of the remaining four is not properly tightened?

> When I had the tires changed, I forgot to ask them to replace them
> with regular lug nuts.  When I remembered a half hour later, they
> already had my wheels off (I was told a 2 hour wait).  The mechanic
> said he'd just leave them off.  It was too late to change my paperwork
> by the point.

Gee, it seems that they are able to change the  paperwork when they want
to add stuff to the bill pretty easily.

> I just wanted to find out what people had to say, but it seems they
> need to be replaced ASAP in any case.  Thanks.
johngdole@hotmail.com - 30 Nov 2007 01:29 GMT
If only four were needed, car companies will save tons of money using
four instead of five lugs over the years.

Go to your local parts store (Pep Boys, AutoZone, etc) and pick up the
keyed or regular lugs that fit. Or order from rockauto.com (see
below).

You may even want to pick up a torque wrench, like the $14.99 on sale
150lb/ft one at Harbor Freight to properly tighten the lugs, in a star
pattern with the weight off the wheel.

rockauto.com (add shipping) lists

regular:
DORMAN Part # 611066 $0.92 each.
RAYBESTOS Part # 6829N $0.96 each

Keyed:
DORMAN Part # 711326 {AutoGrade Hardware} $11.79

> Thanks for the advice.
>
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> I just wanted to find out what people had to say, but it seems they
> need to be replaced ASAP in any case.  Thanks.
nm5k@wt.net - 28 Nov 2007 00:10 GMT
> I bought a 2004 Corolla S in July.  It needed new tires, and didn't
> notice the wheels have a lock on each one.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>                                 Thanks.

I don't like locking nuts myself.. I'm always afraid I won't have the
key
the one time I need it... Which according to Murphy's law, will
always be at night in the freezing rain while you are 419 miles from
home.. :/
But for the short time, I would run , not walk, to the closest auto
parts
store to get 4 more regular lug nuts just to hold you until you
decide what to do.  If it were me, I'd leave em on and call it a
day..
MK
Ray O - 28 Nov 2007 05:24 GMT
>I bought a 2004 Corolla S in July.  It needed new tires, and didn't
> notice the wheels have a lock on each one.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>                                Thanks.

As several others have suggested, you should get the missing lug nuts
installed ASAP.  I don't know the price of the key, but an entire set of
locking lug nuts with key is north of $100 at a Toyota dealer, probably a
little less at an auto parts store.  I don't know what type of wheels you
have on your Corolla or the crime rates in the areas where you park, but I
suspect that Corolla wheels are not very high on the wish list of auto parts
thieves.
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Nate Goulet - 30 Nov 2007 02:02 GMT
I took the advice to get them ASAP, and it's one less worry now.

Thanksfully I noticed this past weekend a Toyota dealler finally moved
closer to my area.  Previously they were about an hour away, plus the
hastle of heavy traffic areas.

I called my regular mechanic, and once again i'm told the car is
perfectly safe to drive with only 4 lug nuts.  But after reading the
posts here, i'm not taking any chances.

The Toyota dealler said they could order a new key for $25 or $30, and
it would take a week.  They ended up selling me a new set for just
under $45 with tax, just in case anyone else was wondering.  If they
had been $100+ as some mentioned, i'd have bought regular lug nuts.
The dealler mentioned regular lug nuts from them were $8 each.   I
have new idea what this stuff should cost, that's why I posted here to
get a clue.  I remember 10 years ago a replacement electric mirror was
$300 for one of my cars.  I picked one up at a junk yard for $25.

Thanks to all for the replies.
JoeSpareBedroom - 30 Nov 2007 07:50 GMT
>I took the advice to get them ASAP, and it's one less worry now.
>
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> perfectly safe to drive with only 4 lug nuts.  But after reading the
> posts here, i'm not taking any chances.

Time to find yourself a new mechanic.
larry moe 'n curly - 30 Nov 2007 19:44 GMT
> I bought a 2004 Corolla S in July.  It needed new tires, and didn't
> notice the wheels have a lock on each one.
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> but I tend to doubt that.   What does a new set of 4 cost?  How about
> plain lug nuts?

Whether you get plain or locking lug nuts, be sure they're metric size
because some English sizes seem to fit but can't be torqued down
enough.  For example, a lot of foreign brand cars need 12mm lug nuts,
and 1/2" nuts are only 1/2 mm larger.
 
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