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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / December 2007

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Hey, Witfal!

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Hachiroku ハチロク - 24 Dec 2007 22:10 GMT
Why didn't you get an IS300?

Same engine as the Supra (basically), 3.0 Liter VVTi Fire Breathing
Monster, decent handling and all in a good looking package.

We had one at the Toy dealer I was working at in Oght-five, the Hatch
version with paddle shifters. Woooooo-Hoooooo!!!!

Definitely *NOT* a boring car!
witfal - 25 Dec 2007 05:34 GMT
> Why didn't you get an IS300?
>
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> Definitely *NOT* a boring car!

Boring compared to a Bimmer.  Shifting sucks.  Handling sucks.  The
car's weight distribution sucks.  I'd rather have the old Supra.

I'm not sure about the new IS350s as I haven't driven the newest
incarnation.  Reviews still have it lacking compared to a BMW, but
getting closer yet.

The new Infiniti G37 turned my head the other day.  A nice, upgraded
subtle re-issue of the G35.
C. E. White - 26 Dec 2007 01:46 GMT
>> Why didn't you get an IS300?
>>
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> incarnation.  Reviews still have it lacking compared to a BMW, but getting
> closer yet.

But at least it won't be in the shop semi-monthly.....

Ed
witfal - 26 Dec 2007 02:46 GMT
>>> Same engine as the Supra (basically), 3.0 Liter VVTi Fire Breathing
>>> Monster, decent handling and all in a good looking package.
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> But at least it won't be in the shop semi-monthly.....

Nope.  Our Camry has spent more time in the shop than both BMWs together.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 26 Dec 2007 04:11 GMT
>>>> Same engine as the Supra (basically), 3.0 Liter VVTi Fire Breathing
>>>> Monster, decent handling and all in a good looking package.
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> Nope.  Our Camry has spent more time in the shop than both BMWs together.

That's pretty bad. What are the first 2 characters in the VINs?
witfal - 26 Dec 2007 04:55 GMT
> Nope.  Our Camry has spent more time in the shop than both BMWs together.
>
> That's pretty bad. What are the first 2 characters in the VINs?

JT
Hachiroku ハチロク - 27 Dec 2007 00:16 GMT
>> Nope.  Our Camry has spent more time in the shop than both BMWs
>> together.
>>
>> That's pretty bad. What are the first 2 characters in the VINs?
>
> JT

That's not good...
witfal - 27 Dec 2007 02:13 GMT
>>> Nope.  Our Camry has spent more time in the shop than both BMWs
>>> together.
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>
> That's not good...

Explain.
EdV - 27 Dec 2007 04:17 GMT
> >>> Nope.  Our Camry has spent more time in the shop than both BMWs
> >>> together.
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> Explain.

Maybe the body shop due to accidents caused by driver error =)
witfal - 27 Dec 2007 04:33 GMT
>>>>> Nope.  Our Camry has spent more time in the shop than both BMWs
>>>>> together.
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> Maybe the body shop due to accidents caused by driver error =)

<g>

To be clearer to those in need, the visits were for mechanical problems.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 27 Dec 2007 20:41 GMT
>>>> Nope.  Our Camry has spent more time in the shop than both BMWs
>>>> together.
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> Explain.

JT=Japan make. Usually higher quality than those made elsewhere. I thought
you were going to come back with a 4T, which is Kentucky...
witfal - 28 Dec 2007 04:42 GMT
>> On 2007-12-26 16:16:26 -0800, Hachiroku ハチロク <Trueno@AE86.gts>
>> said:
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> JT=Japan make. Usually higher quality than those made elsewhere. I thought
> you were going to come back with a 4T, which is Kentucky...

I specifically looked for the JT before making the purchase in 1998.  
Maybe a 4T would have served us better.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 29 Dec 2007 02:25 GMT
>>> On 2007-12-26 16:16:26 -0800, Hachiroku ハチロク
>>> <Trueno@AE86.gts> said:
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> I specifically looked for the JT before making the purchase in 1998. Maybe
> a 4T would have served us better.

Me too. I always look for a JT. In your case, unfortunately, it backfired...
witfal - 29 Dec 2007 04:13 GMT
>>> JT=Japan make. Usually higher quality than those made elsewhere. I
>>> thought you were going to come back with a 4T, which is Kentucky...
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>
> Me too. I always look for a JT. In your case, unfortunately, it backfired...

Big time.  Unfortunately, the trouble we had weren't repeated, so the
lemon law wouldn't apply.

The care now has 207K+, and is still running strong.  She doesn't burn
a drop of oil either.

No sludge, either. ;-)

We changed the oil every 3.5K, and did all scheduled services.  The
engine, other than valve cover gaskets, has been perfect internally.  
But the rest externally has caused us a lot of trouble.

I'll say again, each brand has troubles.  We have a friend with a '93
Camry that has well over 300K and has been a nearly perfect vehicle.  
Oh well.
EdV - 27 Dec 2007 16:24 GMT
> The new Infiniti G37 turned my head the other day.  A nice, upgraded
> subtle re-issue of the G35.

What G37?? maybe your talking about the 350Z.
witfal - 27 Dec 2007 16:32 GMT
>> The new Infiniti G37 turned my head the other day.  A nice, upgraded
>> subtle re-issue of the G35.
>
> What G37?? maybe your talking about the 350Z.

Nope.  An Infiniti G37 -

http://www.infiniti.com/g_coupe/?dcp=16643732%3b&dcc=96526493%3b
EdV - 27 Dec 2007 16:40 GMT
> >> The new Infiniti G37 turned my head the other day.  A nice, upgraded
> >> subtle re-issue of the G35.
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> http://www.infiniti.com/g_coupe/?dcp=16643732%3b&dcc=96526493%3b

Tomato:Tomahto/Potato:Potahto =)
witfal - 27 Dec 2007 16:51 GMT
>>>> The new Infiniti G37 turned my head the other day.  A nice, upgraded
>>>> subtle re-issue of the G35.
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> Tomato:Tomahto/Potato:Potahto =)

Not even close.  Dimensions are far larger on the Infiniti, without the
kidney-busting ride of the Z.

Wheelbase of the Z is 104", the G37's at 112 for starters.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 27 Dec 2007 20:38 GMT
>>>>> The new Infiniti G37 turned my head the other day.  A nice, upgraded
>>>>> subtle re-issue of the G35.
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>
> Wheelbase of the Z is 104", the G37's at 112 for starters.

One of these fer me, please!

http://www.gtrnissan.com/?Site=nissanusa&Area=GT-R_Home

250 MPH out of the box!!!!
witfal - 28 Dec 2007 04:41 GMT
> One of these fer me, please!
>
> http://www.gtrnissan.com/?Site=nissanusa&Area=GT-R_Home
>
> 250 MPH out of the box!!!!

My son is drooling big time.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 29 Dec 2007 02:24 GMT
>> One of these fer me, please!
>>
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>
> My son is drooling big time.

Um, $80,000 out of the box, too! But not every dealer will get ONE, and
most will get ONE. So expect the out-the-door price to be more like $140
Large...
witfal - 29 Dec 2007 04:10 GMT
>>> One of these fer me, please!
>>>
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> most will get ONE. So expect the out-the-door price to be more like $140
> Large...

Like any new model, those who want to be first, pay big time.

Ridiculous.
 
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