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They made a vehicle uglier than the xB, the Prius and the Echo - put together! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22411518/ *barfing* Natalie > They made a vehicle uglier than the xB, the Prius and the Echo - put > together! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Natalie That thing makes barf look good! > > They made a vehicle uglier than the xB, the Prius and the Echo - put > > together! [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > That thing makes barf look good! fridge with wheels >> > They made a vehicle uglier than the xB, the Prius and the Echo - put >> > together! [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > fridge with wheels Heh. I just made a somewhat similar comment. I was first thinking: PT cruiser combined w/an xB. But next thought was "kitchen appliance". Cathy >I was first thinking: PT cruiser combined w/an xB. But next thought was >"kitchen appliance". Mine locomotive. "Bonehenge (B A R R Y)" "Cathy F." wrote: >>I was first thinking: PT cruiser combined w/an xB. But next thought was >>"kitchen appliance". > > Mine locomotive. Hey! There's a use for it - in the *dark* somewhere! Natalie >"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)" > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Natalie Yup! It also looks a tad like a tug boat. "Bonehenge (B A R R Y)" "Wickeddoll" wrote: >> "Cathy F." >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > It also looks a tad like a tug boat. Well, at least it wouldn't take on water, since it probably is impenetrable. Natalie "Cathy F." ... > "EdV" "Worn out Retread" wrote: >>> "Wickeddoll" >>> > They made a vehicle uglier than the xB, the Prius and the Echo - put >>> > together! [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Cathy I don't think even Don Fearn (the xBox lover) could go for *that* thing. Natalie "EdV" ... "Worn out Retread" wrote: >> "Wickeddoll" ... >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > fridge with wheels LOL yeah, those stainless steel appliances! Natalie "Worn out Retread" ... > "Wickeddoll" ... >> They made a vehicle uglier than the xB, the Prius and the Echo - put >> together! [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > That thing makes barf look good! Now that you mention it... Natalie > They made a vehicle uglier than the xB, the Prius and the Echo - put > together! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Natalie It looks like some sort of seriously misplaced kitchen appliance! Cathy > They made a vehicle uglier than the xB, the Prius and the Echo - put > together! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Natalie And I thought some of the studebaker trucks in the 50's were ugly....Its a whole new breed of ugliness. >> They made a vehicle uglier than the xB, the Prius and the Echo - put >> together! [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > And I thought some of the studebaker trucks in the 50's were ugly....Its a > whole new breed of ugliness. Seriously, the Pacer and Gremlin have been usurped. "witfal" "Reasoned Insanity" said: >> "Wickeddoll" ... >>> They made a vehicle uglier than the xB, the Prius and the Echo - put [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Seriously, the Pacer and Gremlin have been usurped. *gasp* You diss Wayne's "Mirthmobile"?! Natalie "Reasoned Insanity" ... > "Wickeddoll" ... >> They made a vehicle uglier than the xB, the Prius and the Echo - put >> together! [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > And I thought some of the studebaker trucks in the 50's were ugly....Its a > whole new breed of ugliness. I like some of the Ford trucks from the 50s, but I don't think I've seen the Studebaker ones. But you're right about this being a whole new breed of ugly. People think my Echo is ugly (I think it's so homely, it's cute), but this thing totally makes the Aztek look acceptable. Natalie > They made a vehicle uglier than the xB, the Prius and the Echo - put > together! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Natalie It is even uglier than a Pontiac Aztec - and I didn't think that was possible. Ed > It is even uglier than a Pontiac Aztec - and I didn't think that was > possible. http://www.kia.com/rondo/index.php "witfal" "C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> said: >> It is even uglier than a Pontiac Aztec - and I didn't think that was >> possible. > > http://www.kia.com/rondo/index.php I think that's pretty slick-looking, actually. But it's a KIA, so, um, no. Natalie > "witfal" > "C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> said: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I think that's pretty slick-looking, actually. The picture is VERY flattering. I saw one in person three or so weeks ago. My first reaction was "Aztec reborn". > But it's a KIA, so, um, no. No lie. "witfal" "Wickeddoll" >> "C. E. White" said: >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > The picture is VERY flattering. I saw one in person three or so weeks > ago. My first reaction was "Aztec reborn". Nah - the Aztek (how they spell it, by the way), is shockingly ugly when you first see it. That one looks pretty similar to other vehicles I've seen. The rear end doesn't look incomplete, like the Aztek >> But it's a KIA, so, um, no. > > No lie. :-) Natalie >> The picture is VERY flattering. I saw one in person three or so weeks >> ago. My first reaction was "Aztec reborn". > > Nah - the Aztek (how they spell it, by the way), is shockingly ugly when you > first see it. That one looks pretty similar to other vehicles I've seen. > The rear end doesn't look incomplete, like the Aztek. Like I said, the picture is too flattering. The back end in particular, and in person, is what screams "Aztec". "witfal" "Wickeddoll" said: >>> The picture is VERY flattering. I saw one in person three or so weeks >>> ago. My first reaction was "Aztec reborn". [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Like I said, the picture is too flattering. The back end in particular, > and in person, is what screams "Aztec". But...but...the Aztek is ugly from any angle - that one looks okay to me, from the side. Natalie >> Like I said, the picture is too flattering. The back end in particular, >> and in person, is what screams "Aztec". > > But...but...the Aztek is ugly from any angle - that one looks okay to me, > from the side. I've often been disappointed in the looks of a car in person after having seen photos. One perfect example: The E90 BMW, better known as the newest incarnation of the 328i and 330i four-door sedan. I had pre-ordered one and cancelled right after seeing it in real-life. The two-door coupe you can learn to like, but it's the only newer model that I'd consider owning, which is why my search continues for an earlier M3. I've got the cash ready, but am having to be patient to find one with low enough miles on the odo. BMW's current designer, Chris Bangle, has almost single-handedly destroyed the classic BMW look. The large back ends, known among true enthusiasts as "Bangle-Butts", are reminiscent of all too many Japanese vehicles now trying to emulate the BMW in looks, though still failing in performance and handling. He's arrogant beyond belief and tolerates no one questioning his judgement in design. Take a look at the next 5,6, or 7 series you see that's 2004 or newer. Note the overly-large trunk lid, upswept tail lights, etc. Way out of proportion, yet not so easily noticed in photos. Same thing with the Kia. "witfal" "Wickeddoll" said: >>> Like I said, the picture is too flattering. The back end in particular, >>> and in person, is what screams "Aztec". [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I've often been disappointed in the looks of a car in person after having > seen photos. Oh, me too! But the Aztek was irretrievably ugly, no matter how I saw it, real or a photo. I don't get that sense of abject horror from the KIA you showed us. > One perfect example: The E90 BMW, better known as the newest incarnation > of the 328i and 330i four-door sedan. I had pre-ordered one and cancelled > right after seeing it in real-life. The two-door coupe you can learn to > like, but it's the only newer model that I'd consider owning, which is why > my search continues for an earlier M3. I've got the cash ready, but am > having to be patient to find one with low enough miles on the odo. What do you want? 0 miles? > BMW's current designer, Chris Bangle, has almost single-handedly destroyed > the classic BMW look. The large back ends, known among true enthusiasts > as "Bangle-Butts", are reminiscent of all too many Japanese vehicles now > trying to emulate the BMW in looks, though still failing in performance > and handling. He's arrogant beyond belief and tolerates no one > questioning his judgement in design. Sounds like some doctors I've worked with. But you think BMWs handle better than *any* Toyota/Lexus? > Take a look at the next 5,6, or 7 series you see that's 2004 or newer. > Note the overly-large trunk lid, upswept tail lights, etc. Way out of > proportion, yet not so easily noticed in photos. Same thing with the Kia. I can't say I've ever liked the looks of BMWs, frankly. Natalie >> One perfect example: The E90 BMW, better known as the newest incarnation >> of the 328i and 330i four-door sedan. I had pre-ordered one and cancelled [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > What do you want? 0 miles? Something under 70K. I've looked at two or three, but often they've been excessively modified, letting me know that the young owner has beaten the piss out of it. Smoking at 70K means hard use. Like I said, I'll be patient. Sounds like some doctors I've worked with. But you think BMWs handle better than *any* Toyota/Lexus? My wife's 330i convertible with the performance package will outhandle ANY Lexus. I've driven them all. The closest was the IS300, but it just didn't make it. There's a reason that all of the car magazines use a 3 series BMW as a standard by which to measure handling. >> Take a look at the next 5,6, or 7 series you see that's 2004 or newer. >> Note the overly-large trunk lid, upswept tail lights, etc. Way out of >> proportion, yet not so easily noticed in photos. Same thing with the Kia. > > I can't say I've ever liked the looks of BMWs, frankly. I'll agree with you on that one when it comes to the newest Bangle-Mangles. "witfal" ... "Wickeddoll" >>> One perfect example: The E90 BMW, better known as the newest >>> incarnation [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > piss out of it. Smoking at 70K means hard use. Like I said, I'll be > patient. So this car has to be used? They don't make it anymore? > Sounds like some doctors I've worked with. But you think BMWs handle > better than *any* Toyota/Lexus? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > There's a reason that all of the car magazines use a 3 series BMW as a > standard by which to measure handling. You say you've had a lot of trouble with your Camry, but I hear the same thing about BMWs. *shrug* >>> Take a look at the next 5,6, or 7 series you see that's 2004 or newer. >>> Note the overly-large trunk lid, upswept tail lights, etc. Way out of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I'll agree with you on that one when it comes to the newest > Bangle-Mangles. No, I mean all of them. I passed on buying a used BMW from a guy who needed to sell it quickly, as he was going overseas. It was a 1980. Dull beyond belief, IMO. Natalie >>> What do you want? 0 miles? >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > So this car has to be used? They don't make it anymore? Not since 1999. That was the last year for the E36 M3. >> There's a reason that all of the car magazines use a 3 series BMW as a >> standard by which to measure handling. > > You say you've had a lot of trouble with your Camry, but I hear the same > thing about BMWs. *shrug* Proving that all brands have trouble. >>>> Take a look at the next 5,6, or 7 series you see that's 2004 or newer. >>>> Note the overly-large trunk lid, upswept tail lights, etc. Way out of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > to sell it quickly, as he was going overseas. It was a 1980. Dull beyond > belief, IMO. That goes a way back. I like mid-eighties M6s. Very classic. >> "witfal" >> "C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> said: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > No lie. Whew! I think that if any neighbor of mine bought such a thing as the Toyota truck, I'd be tempted to spray paint ugly threats on his garage door in the dead of night. It's a good things that it's a "concept" car, which means that the production model will look nothing like it. It makes the Aztek look almost cute by comparison. Speaking of the late unlamented Aztek, I recall well when it was introduced with commercials during the first incarnation of "Survivor", when the tag line was "Arguably the most versatile vehicle on the planet".... and I used to mutter "And unquestionably the ugliest on the planet". "mack" ... > "witfal" Wickeddoll" >>> "witfal" >>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> said: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Toyota truck, I'd be tempted to spray paint ugly threats on his garage > door in the dead of night. LOL! My sister-in-law and her husband are part of a condo co-op in Florida; they also share the vehicle, which was chosen by the group - they chose the Part-Time Cruiser, much to my in-laws' Toyota-loving chagrin. I rode in it a couple of times while we visited. TERRIBLE ride! The interior is quite awkward, as well, IMO. > It's a good things that it's a "concept" car, which means that the > production model will look nothing like it. That's what we thought with the xB... > It makes the Aztek look almost cute by comparison. > Speaking of the late unlamented Aztek, I recall well when it was > introduced with commercials during the first incarnation of "Survivor", > when the tag line was "Arguably the most versatile vehicle on the > planet".... > and I used to mutter "And unquestionably the ugliest on the planet". ROFL! I still think the xB is the ugliest - but maybe the Aztek was out first? Natalie > ROFL! I still think the xB is the ugliest - but maybe the Aztek was out > first? You never owned a Previa, did you. Toyota can make the ugliest cars that you love to own. "Elmo P. Shagnasty" , >> ROFL! I still think the xB is the ugliest - but maybe the Aztek was out >> first? > > You never owned a Previa, did you. Hell, and might I add, no. > Toyota can make the ugliest cars that you love to own. Their status stands. Natalie > > You never owned a Previa, did you. > > Hell, and might I add, no. Wonderful car. You don't know what you're missing. "Elmo P. Shagnasty" , >> > You never owned a Previa, did you. >> >> Hell, and might I add, no. > > Wonderful car. You don't know what you're missing. Really? I keep hearing it's one of Toyota's less-than-well-made vehicles. Natalie > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" , >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Natalie Actually, the Previa is one of Toyota's most bullet-proof vehicles.  SignatureRay O (correct punctuation to reply) "Ray O" ... > "Wickeddoll" ... >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Actually, the Previa is one of Toyota's most bullet-proof vehicles. Well, since I don't live in Compton, I'll stick with the non-armored vehicles. ;-) Natalie > >>> > You never owned a Previa, did you. > >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Actually, the Previa is one of Toyota's most bullet-proof vehicles. Yep. Aside from the same bad placement of the A/C pieces, which is a fact in any minivan, the Previa is bulletproof. >Yep. Aside from the same bad placement of the A/C pieces, which is a >fact in any minivan, the Previa is bulletproof. And it looks like Oscar Meyer Weinermobile, reducing theft potential. It would be easier to try to name ONE car Toyota has ever built that could be called stylish, than list all the goofy looking Toyotas LOL > "witfal" > "C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> said: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Natalie >It would be easier to try to name ONE car Toyota has ever built that could >be called stylish, than list all the goofy looking Toyotas Late 80's Supra is one. >>It would be easier to try to name ONE car Toyota has ever built that >>could be called stylish, than list all the goofy looking Toyotas > > Late 80's Supra is one. Hey, I just said that! It *STILL* looks good! >>> It would be easier to try to name ONE car Toyota has ever built that >>> could be called stylish, than list all the goofy looking Toyotas [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > It *STILL* looks good! That it does. > It would be easier to try to name ONE car Toyota has ever built that could > be called stylish, than list all the goofy looking Toyotas LOL Crown Cressida Supra Celica (MK I) ooops...that's 4... >> "witfal" >> "C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> said: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> Natalie >> It would be easier to try to name ONE car Toyota has ever built that >> could [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > ooops...that's 4... 2000 GT, MR2 (MK 2) SignatureRay O (correct punctuation to reply) >>> It would be easier to try to name ONE car Toyota has ever built that >>> could [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> > 2000 GT, MR2 (MK 2) How the hell could I ever forget the 2000GT??!!! (Um, we'll keep that it was designed by Yamaha to ourselves, eh? ;) >>>> It would be easier to try to name ONE car Toyota has ever built that >>>> could [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > How the hell could I ever forget the 2000GT??!!! > (Um, we'll keep that it was designed by Yamaha to ourselves, eh? ;) The overall design was a joint venture between Toyota and Yamaha, but I think the body design was by a Toyota designer. SignatureRay O (correct punctuation to reply) "Hachiroku ????" Mike hunt wrote: >> It would be easier to try to name ONE car Toyota has ever built that >> could [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > ooops...that's 4... Gawd, what is that troll doing stinking up my thread?! Natalie >> It would be easier to try to name ONE car Toyota has ever built that >> could [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > ooops...that's 4... Well looks are definitely in the eye of the beholder. I can't argue agains some of the Supras and some of the Celicas were "stylish" - but come on a Crown? It looked like a mid-60s Chevy II with extra crap tacked on to make it even uglier. And although the last version Cressidas were just plain, the earlier ones were just plain duill. Maybe they weren't ugly, but claiming they were "stylish" is pushing things. Ed >>> It would be easier to try to name ONE car Toyota has ever built that >>> could [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Ed Remember, I like Jap cars. On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 04:32:14 GMT, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote: >Remember, I like Jap cars. Speaking of stylish... Have any of you seen the 2008 Chevy Malibu? Very, very nice sheet metal! >>Remember, I like Jap cars. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Very, very nice sheet metal! Shoot....I thought the Subaru 360 was cool! http://benningtoncars.com/db4/00354/benningtoncars.com/_uimages/360.jpg >> It is even uglier than a Pontiac Aztec - and I didn't think that was >> possible. > >http://www.kia.com/rondo/index.php Kinda' looks like a Matrix or Mazda 5 >>> It is even uglier than a Pontiac Aztec - and I didn't think that was >>> possible. >> >> http://www.kia.com/rondo/index.php > > Kinda' looks like a Matrix or Mazda 5 Not in size. This is one BUFF. "witfal" "Bonehenge (B A R R Y)" said: "C. E. White" said: >>>> It is even uglier than a Pontiac Aztec - and I didn't think that was >>>> possible. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Not in size. This is one BUFF. "Butt ugly freaking ...."? Natalie >>> Kinda' looks like a Matrix or Mazda 5 >> Not in size. This is one BUFF. > > "Butt ugly freaking ...."? Big Ugly Fat F****r "witfal" "Wickeddoll" said: >>>> Kinda' looks like a Matrix or Mazda 5 > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Big Ugly Fat F****r Ah... Natalie >>>> Kinda' looks like a Matrix or Mazda 5 > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Big Ugly Fat F****r Otherwise known as the B-52... On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:05:52 GMT, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote: >Otherwise known as the B-52... Right. There's only one real BUFF! <http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-air-support/vietnam/rolling_thunder.htm> > On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:05:52 GMT, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@AE86.gts> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > <http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-air-support/vietnam/rolling_thunder.htm> That's true. The first time I ever read the acronym was in a Stephen Coonts novel, many years ago. There just didn't seem to be a better description of the KIA. Truly ugly. But some people think the A-10 Warthog is as well. I think it's beautiful. > They made a vehicle uglier than the xB, the Prius and the Echo - put > together! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Natalie What is *WRONG* with you?! ;) Here...have a better look. Not too bad, actually... http://www.autoblog.nl/archive/2007/12/28/toyota-a-bat-concept-hybride-pickup >> They made a vehicle uglier than the xB, the Prius and the Echo - put >> together! [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > http://www.autoblog.nl/archive/2007/12/28/toyota-a-bat-concept-hybride-pickup Drugs are bad, Hachi Natalie >>> They made a vehicle uglier than the xB, the Prius and the Echo - put >>> together! [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Natalie The vehicles depicted in Natalie and Hachi's links are not the same. Note the different grille and headlights. The one in Natalie's link is pretty ugly, the one in Hachi's has potential with some changes. SignatureRay O (correct punctuation to reply) >> They made a vehicle uglier than the xB, the Prius and the Echo - put >> together! [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > http://www.autoblog.nl/archive/2007/12/28/toyota-a-bat-concept-hybride-pickup It looks like a squashed Honda Ridgeline with a Tundra grill welled onto the front. I'll bet the sightlines out of that thing are horrendous.... Ed > They made a vehicle uglier than the xB, the Prius and the Echo - put > together! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Natalie Speaking of bats: The bat-faced upmarket family hauler can seat up to eight people while casting a shadow smaller than that of the American-market Sienna. http://www.3autos.com/20060117/Toyota-unveils-new-domestic-market-Estima-minivan -lineup,5702/ I used to work with a kid we called "Bat-Face"... |
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