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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / January 2008(OT:) DON'T EAT THAT PINEAPPLE!!!!
Do you have ANY idea how much that pineapple is damaging the Earth?!?!?! First, there was the petroleum by-products used to make the fertilizer, then the machinery to cultivate the trees, then the processing, and packaging, and then the jet fuel to fly the pineapple to you. Yes, indeed the latest in k00k NooZ from the BBC. Be careful what you eat, it may be killing the planet. They had a whole segment on local/imported fruits and veggies, the "carbon footprint" of the food you eat, and the generalization that "...it takes 10 calories of energy to produce one calorie of food..." Yup, the paranoids even want to control your taste buds... > Do you have ANY idea how much that pineapple is damaging the Earth?!?!?! > > First, there was the petroleum by-products used to make the fertilizer, > then the machinery to cultivate the trees, then the processing, and > packaging, and then the jet fuel to fly the pineapple to you. Can you tell us how you know that the BBC is incorrect? Does it use petroleum by-products to make teh fertilizer? However energy to cultivate the trees? And how much energy does it take to fly the pineapple here? > Yes, indeed the latest in k00k NooZ from the BBC. Be careful what you eat, > it may be killing the planet. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Yup, the paranoids even want to control your taste buds... How many calories does it take to get a 100-calorie bell pepper to your mouth? In the old days, when we farmed by hand, it was less than 100-calories, or we not have survived. But what about now? No one wants to control your taste buds. I don't eat shrimp, because the way the shrimp are removed from the ocean destroys other animals in the ocean. The activities that we do have consequences for our planet. It's fact of life. To dismiss the effects we have without understanding them is stupid. jeff >> Do you have ANY idea how much that pineapple is damaging the Earth?!?!?! >> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > jeff I predict that within a month, when Hach thinks we've forgotten this discussion, he'll say he just did some computer service at the office of 3 botanists who said that growing pineapples actually has a negative carbon footprint. >>> Do you have ANY idea how much that pineapple is damaging the Earth?!?!?! >>> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > botanists who said that growing pineapples actually has a negative carbon > footprint. I think a botanist describing a pineapple bromeliad as a tree would be a rare find, if anybody can find it, it would be Hachi. (;-> >> I predict that within a month, when Hach thinks we've forgotten this >> discussion, he'll say he just did some computer service at the office of >> 3 botanists who said that growing pineapples actually has a negative >> carbon footprint. > I think a botanist describing a pineapple bromeliad as a tree would be a > rare find, if anybody can find it, it would be Hachi. (;-> BWAHAHAHA! My biggest source of this crap is the BBC. Sometimes it's funny... Sometimes (mostly) it's just bullshit... >> To dismiss the effects we have without understanding them is stupid. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > botanists who said that growing pineapples actually has a negative carbon > footprint. You never know. I service three universities, the biggest being UMASS, where a LOT of research is done. Now that all our kids have swallowed the Politician's BS about "Climate Change", it wouldn't surprise me if someone may just be working on suach a thing. There's a LOT of k00ks around here... >>> To dismiss the effects we have without understanding them is stupid. >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > There's a LOT of k00ks around here... There's a deeper meaning to the BBC story you're bitching about. Any such information is worth reading if it leads people to at least think about the things they consume, and how they go about getting them. For example, let's say those stupid "lunchable" things (Oscar Meyer?) contained the healthiest food in the universe. Of course not. The product still represents a disgusting waste of plastic, and it doesn't matter that it might've been made from recycled materials, or that you might recycle the plastic when you're done with it. Solution: Don't buy stuff like that. Another example: In the supermarket produce department, I see people putting one green pepper into a plastic bag. Why? To keep it clean? You're still supposed to wash it before you use it. Or, putting a bunch of bananas in a plastic bag. A friend of mine does that so she has a place to stick the label after she uses the weigh-it-yourself scale. Why? Stick the label on the bananas. You're gonna peel them anyway. It probably doesn't matter in the long run, though. We're already a mess: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/23/politics/23environment.html?_r=1&oref=slogin >>>> To dismiss the effects we have without understanding them is stupid. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/23/politics/23environment.html?_r=1&oref=slogin Or the peaches, grapes and nectarines fresh off the ship-- Chile, of course. > Another example: In the supermarket produce department, I see people > putting one green pepper into a plastic bag. Why? To keep it clean? You're > still supposed to wash it before you use it. Or, putting a bunch of > bananas in a plastic bag. A friend of mine does that so she has a place to > stick the label after she uses the weigh-it-yourself scale. Why? Stick the > label on the bananas. You're gonna peel them anyway. Yeah, I can agree with this. A plastic bag for bananas? Don't make sense to me. Nature packaged them perfectly already. Peppers...who the HELL buys ONE pepper?!?! (HINT: I get red peppers, I roast them, drown them in olive oil and add some garlic powder. NO SUCH THING as *ONE* pepper! ;) >> Do you have ANY idea how much that pineapple is damaging the Earth?!?!?! >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Can you tell us how you know that the BBC is incorrect? I didn't say they were incorrect. I was implying the people they were talking to are l00ney... > Does it use petroleum by-products to make teh fertilizer? However energy > to cultivate the trees? And how much energy does it take to fly the > pineapple here? Read below. The estimate given was 10 calories of energy for every calorie of food. >> Yes, indeed the latest in k00k NooZ from the BBC. Be careful what you >> eat, it may be killing the planet. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > jeff So, I guess we just stop eating? Tuna often kills dolphins, growing food takes energy and sometimes destroys the soil, it has been said that growing X mewans you can't grow Y; the government pays farmers subsidies not to grow corn, and now because of Biofuels there is a corn and wheat shortage and prices are going up. Everything is a trade off. If I want a pineapple, I'm having a pineapple. Another concern in Europe is flowers grown in Africa. They are flown in to Europe every day, and the Eco-nutz are lamenting the use of fuel to fly the flowers. But, like I said in the summer when the same k00ks were avoiding vacations, the planes are going to fly anyway. There is other freight or passengers on the same planes, and they will fly regardless. And, how much energy does it take to grow the flowers in Europe in the winter? Don't buy fruit, don't buy flowers, don't buy summer produce in the winter. Just eat lentils, like Neil... http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/theyoungones/index.shtml <...> > So, I guess we just stop eating? Eat foods that are grown locally, like by the local farmer or your garden. > Tuna often kills dolphins, I haven't seen tunas with guns lately. > growing food > takes energy and sometimes destroys the soil, it has been said that [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > the flowers. But, like I said in the summer when the same k00ks were > avoiding vacations, the planes are going to fly anyway. Wanting to protect your environment does not make one a kook. > There is other > freight or passengers on the same planes, and they will fly regardless. The number of flights can be cut back if their is not enough freight. Plus the flowers require refrigeration which is not free and the ground in Africa can be used to grow other stuff. > And, how much energy does it take to grow the flowers in Europe in the > winter? Not much. Plus they give off oxygen. You can grow them in your own house. > Don't buy fruit, don't buy flowers, don't buy summer produce in the winter. > > Just eat lentils, like Neil... The fact is that our choices affect the environment. You should learn about them and make intelligent choices. Jeff > http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/theyoungones/index.shtml > Wanting to protect your environment does not make one a kook. Even a stupid dog won't sh.t where he eats, ya know? But Hach will. :-) >> Wanting to protect your environment does not make one a kook. > > Even a stupid dog won't sh.t where he eats, ya know? But Hach will. :-) If I saw even one iota of proof that man has that drastic an effect on the climate, I might change my mind. Aside from a few diehard k00k scientists, and a handful of politicians, there is a LOT more evidence it's a natural cycle. >>> Wanting to protect your environment does not make one a kook. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > and a handful of politicians, there is a LOT more evidence it's a natural > cycle. Not related to global warming, but in the U.S., guess who adds more strange chemicals to the ground, and often the water supply than any other source. >>>> Wanting to protect your environment does not make one a kook. >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > strange chemicals to the ground, and often the water supply than any other > source. That would probably be me... >>>>> Wanting to protect your environment does not make one a kook. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > That would probably be me... Pretty much. The answer is homeowners - the largest point sources of chemical pollution. Golf courses are 2nd. >>> Wanting to protect your environment does not make one a kook. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > and a handful of politicians, there is a LOT more evidence it's a natural > cycle. One of those politicians is G.W. Bush. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/02/20070207-5.html You're welcome to think what you want, but there were thousands of scientists who helped the Intergovernmental Panel and Climate Change, so it is not a few diehard scientists. I don't know why they would be kooks, because having different conclusions than others does not make one a kook. Anyway, there are very few scientists who don't believe that climate change that is being driven, in part, by humans taking place. >>>> Wanting to protect your environment does not make one a kook. >>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Anyway, there are very few scientists who don't believe that climate > change that is being driven, in part, by humans taking place. Another way to look at it is to ask whether our activities have ZERO effect on anything. Since that is impossible, it's a question that's very effective at flushing out the real kooks. For Hach's benefit, I'll add that in the two sentences I just wrote, above, I made no claim as to how much of an effect our activities have. >Another way to look at it is to ask whether our activities have ZERO effect >on anything. Joey, your activities on here have ZERO effect on anyone....  SignatureScott in Florida >>>>> Wanting to protect your environment does not make one a kook. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > For Hach's benefit, I'll add that in the two sentences I just wrote, > above, I made no claim as to how much of an effect our activities have. I have never said our activities have NO effect. I just think the Pols and the scientists that follow them for the money are overblowing the situation. > You're welcome to think what you want, but there were thousands of > scientists who helped the Intergovernmental Panel and Climate Change, so > it is not a few diehard scientists. I don't know why they would be kooks, They go where the money is. Those unencumbered by having to write grants to get money all say it's normal. > <...> > >> So, I guess we just stop eating? > > Eat foods that are grown locally, like by the local farmer or your garden. Remember the links I posted a few weeks ago? Not much grows in the snow! >> Tuna often kills dolphins, > > I haven't seen tunas with guns lately. You haven't been paying attention. Did you see the shark at the aquarium that was dragging another shark around in it's mouth. Ya gotta watch them tunas...they're deadly... I wouldn't be surprised if there's a massacre aboard one of those Japanese wahiling ships, myself... Beware what you eat...it may eat YOU someday... >> growing food >> takes energy and sometimes destroys the soil, it has been said that [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/theyoungones/index.shtml >Do you have ANY idea how much that pineapple is damaging the Earth?!?!?! > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Yup, the paranoids even want to control your taste buds... I know you listen to BBC for fun...but.....LOL SignatureScott in Florida > >Do you have ANY idea how much that pineapple is damaging the Earth?!?!?! > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > -- > Scott in Florida I have done something for the environment for a couple of weeks now.... reusable grocery bags "EdV" <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:fb267c7a-3ae8-4537-b621-4>> Scott in Florida > I have done something for the environment for a couple of weeks > now.... reusable grocery bags Good for you...! We could solve the plastic bag problem in about twenty minutes if we made it necessary to pay 25c for each plastic bag used. You'd soon find people bringing in tote bags, suitcases, orange crates and file boxes to markets to avoid the charge. I find it ridiculous that if I were to buy a single pack of cigarettes, the clerk would probably put it in a plastic bag for me. > We could solve the plastic bag problem in about twenty minutes if we made > it necessary to pay 25c for each plastic bag used. (SHHH...even 5 cents would do it...) > "EdV" <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:fb267c7a-3ae8-4537-b621-4>> Scott in Florida [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I were to buy a single pack of cigarettes, the clerk would probably > put it in a plastic bag for me. I always get plastic bags because that's what we use when scooping up the cat box. See , I am conserving by reusing! >> "EdV" <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:fb267c7a-3ae8-4537-b621-4>> Scott in Florida [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I always get plastic bags because that's what we use when scooping up > the cat box. See , I am conserving by reusing! I get both - usually plastic, for the exact same reason - scooping the litter box. Paper, for putting out the paper recyclables. Cathy >> "EdV" <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:fb267c7a-3ae8-4537-b621-4>> Scott in Florida [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >I always get plastic bags because that's what we use when scooping up >the cat box. See , I am conserving by reusing! Used cat litter in paper bags don't cut it.....for long....LOL SignatureScott in Florida "mack" ... > "EdV" >> Scott in Florida [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > pack of cigarettes, the clerk would probably put it in a plastic bag for > me. Just refuse the bag. I take my stuff out of the bag and leave it for the next customer very often if I do not need the bag. Squander not. Tomes >> >Do you have ANY idea how much that pineapple is damaging the >> >Earth?!?!?! [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > I have done something for the environment for a couple of weeks now.... > reusable grocery bags I have started getting paper bags. They're made from trees. They'll grow more... >> >Do you have ANY idea how much that pineapple is damaging the Earth?!?!?! >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >I have done something for the environment for a couple of weeks >now.... reusable grocery bags That gets you on the Al Bore plane....LOL SignatureScott in Florida >>They had a whole segment on local/imported fruits and veggies, the >>"carbon footprint" of the food you eat, and the generalization that [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> > I know you listen to BBC for fun...but.....LOL FUN?! I used to listen to the BBC all the time. There was a local AM station that ran the World Service from 6PM to 6AM. I would listen as long as I could. I really liked it. The best news serivce I had in this area. Little spin, not a lot of US bashing, just plain news. The station faded and got covered over by another after a year or so, and I didn't listen for three years or so. I got an XM receiver instead of Sirius because at the time XM only was offering the BBC. I didn't listen for a year because I was overcome by the choices in music. Then I started doing the papers, and started listening to the BBC again. It's like an entirely different news service. Not the same at all. A lot of the time it just pisses me off! They have so many agendas it's incredible! But still I listen, now to get whacko stuff to post here... ;) >>> They had a whole segment on local/imported fruits and veggies, the >>> "carbon footprint" of the food you eat, and the generalization that [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > of the time it just pisses me off! They have so many agendas it's > incredible! But still I listen, now to get whacko stuff to post here... ;) You should be able to pick up the BBC off the internet, too. WNYC carries it, and, probably, do a lot of other public radio stations. They may have their own feeds, too. Jeff >>>> They had a whole segment on local/imported fruits and veggies, the >>>> "carbon footprint" of the food you eat, and the generalization that [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Jeff I was listening to it streaming last year at work...er, the year before... It still seemed like there wasn't as much spin as there is now. >>>They had a whole segment on local/imported fruits and veggies, the >>>"carbon footprint" of the food you eat, and the generalization that [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > of the time it just pisses me off! They have so many agendas it's > incredible! But still I listen, now to get whacko stuff to post here... ;) All news sources have an agenda, unless you can find one that simply places video cameras where things are happening, and then adds no commentary. However, even the placement of the cameras can be considered a form of editorial comment. >>>>They had a whole segment on local/imported fruits and veggies, the >>>>"carbon footprint" of the food you eat, and the generalization that [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > commentary. However, even the placement of the cameras can be considered a > form of editorial comment. They didn't used to. They used to just report the stories. Now the spine everything...HARD. >>>They had a whole segment on local/imported fruits and veggies, the >>>"carbon footprint" of the food you eat, and the generalization that [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >of the time it just pisses me off! They have so many agendas it's >incredible! But still I listen, now to get whacko stuff to post here... ;) Look at it this way....you can be SURE you won't go asleep while on the paper route...LOL SignatureScott in Florida >>>>They had a whole segment on local/imported fruits and veggies, the >>>>"carbon footprint" of the food you eat, and the generalization that [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Look at it this way....you can be SURE you won't go asleep while on the > paper route...LOL Really...half the time I'm seething with disbelief... >>>>>They had a whole segment on local/imported fruits and veggies, the >>>>>"carbon footprint" of the food you eat, and the generalization that [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >Really...half the time I'm seething with disbelief... ....but you are AWAKE. The BBC is doing you a favour.... SignatureScott in Florida >>>>>>They had a whole segment on local/imported fruits and veggies, the >>>>>>"carbon footprint" of the food you eat, and the generalization that [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > The BBC is doing you a favour.... Aye, that they are! >>>>>>>They had a whole segment on local/imported fruits and veggies, the >>>>>>>"carbon footprint" of the food you eat, and the generalization that [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > >Aye, that they are! There isn't much liberal talk to keep me awake, so I'll listen to the BBC on Sirius Satellite Radio to keep me going on my next trip...LOL SignatureScott in Florida >>>>>>>>They had a whole segment on local/imported fruits and veggies, the >>>>>>>>"carbon footprint" of the food you eat, and the generalization that [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > There isn't much liberal talk to keep me awake, so I'll listen to the BBC > on Sirius Satellite Radio to keep me going on my next trip...LOL Does Sirius offer it now? The reason I chose XM is because Sirius didn't have it. I guess in a couple months it won't matter any more... >>>>>>>>>They had a whole segment on local/imported fruits and veggies, the >>>>>>>>>"carbon footprint" of the food you eat, and the generalization that [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > >I guess in a couple months it won't matter any more... Yup. Channel 141 Here is a pdf channel guide: http://www.sirius.com/pdf/channelguide.pdf SignatureScott in Florida > Do you have ANY idea how much that pineapple is damaging the Earth?!?!?! > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Yup, the paranoids even want to control your taste buds... When you react to things like this by saying "they want to control you", you reveal that it's a penis issue for you. >> Yup, the paranoids even want to control your taste buds... > > When you react to things like this by saying "they want to control you", > you reveal that it's a penis issue for you. Huh? >>> Yup, the paranoids even want to control your taste buds... >> >> When you react to things like this by saying "they want to control you", >> you reveal that it's a penis issue for you. > >Huh? That just about sums up the only reaction you can have to Joey....LOL SignatureScott in Florida Why not they want to control what we expell when we breath? LOL > Do you have ANY idea how much that pineapple is damaging the Earth?!?!?! > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Yup, the paranoids even want to control your taste buds... |
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