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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / February 2008

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OK, was it Bruce, or BGM that told me this about Syntec? (when you change your oil, change your oil?)

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Hachiroku ハチロク - 02 Feb 2008 19:25 GMT
Mobil 1 is a good example of a high-end Group IV. Group III lubricants are
made from reprocessed petroleum products normally left over after making
crude oil into gasoline, diesel fuel, heating oil and other products.
They're more modestly priced, and have many of the desirable
characteristics of the higher-priced spread. In much of the world outside
the USA, Group III-based lubricants are not permitted to be marketed as
“synthetic.” Castrol Syntec is a good example of this type.

Gee, the spammer's blog actually provided some information!!! How about
that!

Where I get my oil, Mobil 1 and Castrol Syntec are the same price, so I
guess I'll try the Mobil 1. I was using Castrol because I have been using
Castrol for about 25 years now, and have gotten 4 engines well over
200,000 miles with it...

BTW, I didn't realize...at least, the new bottles of Castrol have the BP
logo on them...

Also, in the 'beaters' I have been using ...er, Pennzoil? High mileage
formula with Slick 50 in it. I'll run it for 3 changes and then use
Castrol H-M formula, since it has worked wonders on the Supra!

Since I started using the Pennzoil in the Mazda, that noisy Hydraulic Lash
Adjuster (HLA) has been giving me a LOT fewer problems! It hardly taps at
all anymore...
badgolferman - 03 Feb 2008 01:11 GMT
Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B, 2/2/2008,2:25:38 PM, wrote:

> Mobil 1 is a good example of a high-end Group IV. Group III
> lubricants are made from reprocessed petroleum products normally left
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> Lash Adjuster (HLA) has been giving me a LOT fewer problems! It
> hardly taps at all anymore...

It wasn't me.
nm5k@wt.net - 03 Feb 2008 07:34 GMT
> Where I get my oil, Mobil 1 and Castrol Syntec are the same price, so I
> guess I'll try the Mobil 1. I was using Castrol because I have been using
> Castrol for about 25 years now, and have gotten 4 engines well over
> 200,000 miles with it...

They are not normally the same price. Mobil 1 is usually a good
bit higher. Syntec has been going for 3.89 a quart the last few
changes. Mobil 1 is usually over 5 bucks a quart.
I've been using Syntec cuz I want some of the advantages of
synthetic to hopefully reduce any gelling problems, but
I'm not crazy about 5+ bucks a quart.
I change every 5k no matter what is in it.
I have no problems with the different method used to make
Syntec. It's still better than most "regular" oils..
MK
Hachiroku - 03 Feb 2008 21:18 GMT
On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 23:34:51 -0800, nm5k wrote:

>> Where I get my oil, Mobil 1 and Castrol Syntec are the same price, so I
>> guess I'll try the Mobil 1. I was using Castrol because I have been using
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> Syntec. It's still better than most "regular" oils..
> MK

AutoZone has both Syntec and Mobil 1 at $6.19 a quart.
Guess I'll have to look around more if I plan to use Syntec again!
larry moe 'n curly - 03 Feb 2008 21:37 GMT
> AutoZone has both Syntec and Mobil 1 at $6.19 a quart.
> Guess I'll have to look around more if I plan to use Syntec again!

I've gotten Pennzoil Platinum synthetic for $0.06, $0.38, and $0.99 a
quart, after rebates, at Pep Boys and Checker/Shuck's/Kragen.  I
bought synthetic only because it was the cheapest oil available.
 
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