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Battery Voltage ranges

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mike@nosam.org - 05 Feb 2008 06:09 GMT
In my Manual - Sienna 06 page 499 I found the following:

Battery

Voltage checked 20 min after key is removed and 68deg F

12.6--12.8 V    Fully charged
12.2--12.4 V    Half charged
11.8--12.0 V    Discharged

These ranges look very tight.  Is this correct and realistic?

I was looking for a higher fully charged and 10.5 or 11 as discharged.

I trust none of what I hear and only half of what I see <grin>.

m
Tegger - 05 Feb 2008 12:19 GMT
> In my Manual - Sienna 06 page 499 I found the following:
>
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>
> I trust none of what I hear and only half of what I see <grin>.

The numbers above are correct.

To test the battery properly:
1) Turn on headlights for five mintes.
2) Turn off headlights, wait an additional five minutes.
3) Measure voltage across terminals.

Fully charged is about 12.65V. Anything less is not fully-charged.

See here for voltage charts and more explanation:
http://jgdarden.com/batteryfaq/carfaq4.htm#ocv_soc
and
http://jgdarden.com/batteryfaq/carfaq4.htm#mf_soc

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mike@nosam.org - 05 Feb 2008 20:04 GMT
>> In my Manual - Sienna 06 page 499 I found the following:
>>
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>and
>http://jgdarden.com/batteryfaq/carfaq4.htm#mf_soc

Excellent web pages.  Printed it out.

After the headlight test above - what would the max allowable and/or
expected voltage drop - assuming 70deg F in all cases?
m
Tegger - 05 Feb 2008 22:29 GMT
>>To test the battery properly:
>>1) Turn on headlights for five mintes.
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> After the headlight test above - what would the max allowable and/or
> expected voltage drop - assuming 70deg F in all cases?

You mean voltage drop while cranking? Why does it matter? Use your dome
light to determine that.

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mike@nosam.org - 05 Feb 2008 22:50 GMT
Tegger resend last - I got a

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Tegger - 05 Feb 2008 23:40 GMT
> Tegger resend last - I got a
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Just did.

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Tegger - 05 Feb 2008 23:39 GMT
>>The numbers above are correct.
>>
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> After the headlight test above - what would the max allowable and/or
> expected voltage drop - assuming 70deg F in all cases?

You mean voltage drop while cranking? Why does it matter? Use your dome
light to determine that.

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mike@nosam.org - 06 Feb 2008 00:31 GMT
>>>The numbers above are correct.
>>>
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>You mean voltage drop while cranking? Why does it matter? Use your dome
>light to determine that.

I'm sorry - perhaps I'm mistaken about something.

With the car off one insert the key - to turn on the headlight for 5
min.

Then one wait for 5 min and then measure the voltage.
Are you saying - intend that must be 12.65v  or greater AFTER THE 5
MIN TEST?

My 2nd question is - if the battery is good then how much should one
expect the voltage to drop (FROM - TO 12.65V)  - because the lights
were on for 5 min?  
a. None
b  .3v
c  .6v
d.  ?
Tegger - 06 Feb 2008 01:26 GMT
> I'm sorry - perhaps I'm mistaken about something.
>
> With the car off one insert the key - to turn on the headlight for 5
> min.

You don't need to insert the key, just turn the headlight switch with your
hand.

> Then one wait for 5 min and then measure the voltage.
> Are you saying - intend that must be 12.65v  or greater AFTER THE 5
> MIN TEST?

Yes. But final voltage is dependent on ambient temperature, of course.

> My 2nd question is - if the battery is good then how much should one
> expect the voltage to drop (FROM - TO 12.65V)  - because the lights
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> c  .6v
> d.  ?

"D". Depends on where it started from and what the "surface charge" was.
The point of the exercise is to remove the surface charge, which can vary.

The only thing that matters is what's left after the surface charge is
gone. If you do the test and you get less than 12.65V (or whatever's
appropriate for your ambient air temp, then the battery is either not being
charged by the alternator, or it is defective/damaged/aged and cannot hold
a charge.

Bill Darden explains all this on the Battery FAQ page I referenced earlier.
Go read his FAQ question on testing the battery.

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