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Mr4701 - 09 Feb 2008 00:17 GMT
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/02/leprosy-outbreak-in-arkansas-blamed-on.html

The exact reason we need stiffer rules on entering the country and better
enforcement... Immigration can be a bad thing if people refuse to change
unhealthy ways while entering the country.

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Scott in Florida - 09 Feb 2008 00:25 GMT
>http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/02/leprosy-outbreak-in-arkansas-blamed-on.html
>
>The exact reason we need stiffer rules on entering the country and better
>enforcement... Immigration can be a bad thing if people refuse to change
>unhealthy ways while entering the country.

I thought Billy Bob Blow Job Klintoon and his lovely pants suited wifie had
left Arkansas......

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Jeff Strickland - 09 Feb 2008 00:32 GMT
If Hillary gets elected, she won't do anything about this because she
doesn't give a rat's a.s if Bill's _____ falls off.

Wait, this is different disease, isn't it?

She still won't do anything because she doesn't care if Bill gets it.

Wait, they don't live in Arkansas anymore, do they? They're carpetbaggers,
right?

> http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/02/leprosy-outbreak-in-arkansas-blamed-on.html
>
> The exact reason we need stiffer rules on entering the country and better
> enforcement... Immigration can be a bad thing if people refuse to change
> unhealthy ways while entering the country.
Jeff - 09 Feb 2008 00:34 GMT
> http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/02/leprosy-outbreak-in-arkansas-blamed-on.html
>
> The exact reason we need stiffer rules on entering the country and better
> enforcement... Immigration can be a bad thing if people refuse to change
> unhealthy ways while entering the country.

What unhealthy way's lead to Hanson's disease?

I think the key word in what you wrote is "blamed." In other words, you
have offered no evidence that the disease was imported.

Jeff
Mr4701 - 09 Feb 2008 00:38 GMT
>> http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/02/leprosy-outbreak-in-arkansas-blamed-on.html
>>
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>
> Jeff

Disease out breaks happen all of the time from people entering this country.
Meningitis comes to mind. Do you think people entering this country who do
not have proper vaccines or do not get proper treatment are actually good
for the health of the nation?

As for the "evidence." Read the story.

I am not against immigration. I am all for it, in fact. I am however against
entering this country illegaly or with out concern for others.
Jeff - 09 Feb 2008 00:46 GMT
>>> http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/02/leprosy-outbreak-in-arkansas-blamed-on.html
>>>
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>
> Disease out breaks happen all of the time from people entering this country.

And a lot of those people are US citizens who returning from being
outside the country. Or people visiting on visas, like tourists from
Asia or Europe.

> Meningitis comes to mind. Do you think people entering this country who do
> not have proper vaccines or do not get proper treatment are actually good
> for the health of the nation?
>
> As for the "evidence." Read the story.

I read the story. The word "story" is correct here.

We don't know who imported the disease or under what circumstances.

> I am not against immigration. I am all for it, in fact. I am however against
> entering this country illegaly or with out concern for others.

I don't think the Mycobacterium leprae care whether or not the person is
here legally or not.

jeff
Mr4701 - 09 Feb 2008 00:57 GMT
> And a lot of those people are US citizens who returning from being outside
> the country. Or people visiting on visas, like tourists from Asia or
> Europe.

You did not read the story, unfortunately.

>> As for the "evidence." Read the story.
>
> I read the story. The word "story" is correct here.

Are all stories false? Aparently story equates to false in your book.

> We don't know who imported the disease or under what circumstances.

"Medical specialists say the Marshall Islands have the most cases of
leprosy, in the world. And the city with the largest number of Marshallese
people, outside the Marshall islands, is Springdale. And Bingham says, it
makes sense, then, that leprosy is spreading to the city. "It's from the
Marshall islands; that's why we're seeing it.""

I will take a medical professionals word over yours... Leprosy in the USA is
so rare that it is rarely seen by most doctors.

> I don't think the Mycobacterium leprae care whether or not the person is
> here legally or not.
>
> jeff

No, they do not. However, have you been to a third world country? I don't
think you have. I am willing to bet you have not!
Hachiroku - 09 Feb 2008 02:43 GMT
>> I think the key word in what you wrote is "blamed." In other words, you
>> have offered no evidence that the disease was imported.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Disease out breaks happen all of the time from people entering this
> country.

Tuberculosis was almost wiped in this country, and people coming into the
country illegally (from Asia) have brought a particularly virulent strain
with them that challeneges a new form of treatment, since all known forms
fail.

The same goes for the "Black Syph", a form of syphillis also from Aisa
that resists current treatments.

But, let's just keep welcoming these people with open arms!

If they had come in legally (which they couldn't!) these diseases would
have been discovered and the carriers would have been turned away. But
since we really don't care, once they're here we take them in and let them
spread their inflictions on others.
JoeSpareBedroom - 09 Feb 2008 14:20 GMT
>>> I think the key word in what you wrote is "blamed." In other words, you
>>> have offered no evidence that the disease was imported.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> since we really don't care, once they're here we take them in and let them
> spread their inflictions on others.

Do we test legal immigrants for syphilis?
Hachiroku ハチロク - 09 Feb 2008 20:04 GMT
>>>> I think the key word in what you wrote is "blamed." In other words,
>>>> you have offered no evidence that the disease was imported.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Do we test legal immigrants for syphilis?

They have to have health certificates.
sharx35 - 10 Feb 2008 01:08 GMT
>>>>> I think the key word in what you wrote is "blamed." In other words,
>>>>> you have offered no evidence that the disease was imported.
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>
> They have to have health certificates.

Takes just a few bucks, no doubt, to obtain one of these, regardless of
their actual health.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 10 Feb 2008 04:41 GMT
>>>> If they had come in legally (which they couldn't!) these diseases
>>>> would have been discovered and the carriers would have been turned
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> Takes just a few bucks, no doubt, to obtain one of these, regardless of
> their actual health.

Oh, I'm sure.

But I believe you have to be tested for TB and syph before you leave your
country, and then again when you get here.
JoeSpareBedroom - 10 Feb 2008 05:47 GMT
>>>>> If they had come in legally (which they couldn't!) these diseases
>>>>> would have been discovered and the carriers would have been turned
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> But I believe you have to be tested for TB and syph before you leave your
> country, and then again when you get here.

In other words, you're guessing and assuming.

Do we test legal immigrants for syphilis? Find out. You have nothing better
to do.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 10 Feb 2008 22:43 GMT
>> But I believe you have to be tested for TB and syph before you leave
>> your country, and then again when you get here.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Do we test legal immigrants for syphilis? Find out. You have nothing
> better to do.

Nah. Two jobs, playing in two bands, getting rid of snow dumped by Global
Warming, taking care of my elderly Mom, I gots nuttin' better to do...

Except that my first wife was an immigrant (a LEGAL one) and had to go
through a whole battery of tests before and after she got here...
JoeSpareBedroom - 09 Feb 2008 14:22 GMT
>>> http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/02/leprosy-outbreak-in-arkansas-blamed-on.html
>>>
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> I am not against immigration. I am all for it, in fact. I am however
> against entering this country illegaly or with out concern for others.

Meningitis is considered not at all uncommon here, and it's been that way
since I first became aware of it. That would've been the late 1960s when a
kid in my high school had the disease.
witfal - 09 Feb 2008 14:33 GMT
> Meningitis is considered not at all uncommon here, and it's been that way
> since I first became aware of it. That would've been the late 1960s when a
> kid in my high school had the disease.

Talk to health care workers in many states.  You know; nurses, CNAs,
doctors, techs, etc.

Ask them about TB.  Ask them how much more often they're now tested due
to exposure.  Ask them why.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 09 Feb 2008 20:04 GMT
>> Meningitis is considered not at all uncommon here, and it's been that
>> way since I first became aware of it. That would've been the late 1960s
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> Ask them about TB.  Ask them how much more often they're now tested due to
> exposure.  Ask them why.

See my response right below...
Mr4701 - 09 Feb 2008 00:38 GMT
>> http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/02/leprosy-outbreak-in-arkansas-blamed-on.html
>>
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>
> Jeff

p.s. i never used the word "blamed."
Jeff - 09 Feb 2008 00:46 GMT
>>> http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/02/leprosy-outbreak-in-arkansas-blamed-on.html
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> p.s. i never used the word "blamed."

Read the text in the URL.
Mr4701 - 09 Feb 2008 00:58 GMT
>>>> http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/02/leprosy-outbreak-in-arkansas-blamed-on.html
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Read the text in the URL.

I did not make the URL.. so I did not "write" it.
 
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