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Poor service from dealership

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BIGEYE - 22 Feb 2008 19:51 GMT
My daughters Yaris was serviced at Western Toyota, Cameron Toll, Edinburgh.
After the service she noticed that the body work was scratched and reported
it there and then.
This morning she went out and found that a tyre was flat and had a screw
embedded in it. OK that could have happened anywhere, but when she went to
change the tyre (got her boyfriend to do this), she found that the toolkit
was missing from the car. She borrowed my toolkit, and when she went tom
take off the tyre, found that the wheel nuts were only hand tight.
This was a full service that wascarried out at the dealership at a cost
£250, as the car was released from the garage, damaged, toolkit missing and
left in an unsafe condition, I would like to write to Toyota and report this
matter and send a copy to the dealership.
Can anyone advise where I should write to.

TIA
Jeff - 22 Feb 2008 19:58 GMT
> My daughters Yaris was serviced at Western Toyota, Cameron Toll, Edinburgh.
> After the service she noticed that the body work was scratched and reported
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>
> TIA

If you go to www.toyota.co.uk, you should be able to find some addresses
and tele numbers. In addition, in the US, we have Better Business
Bureaus, which maintain info about poor service from different
companies. Perhaps, you have something similar in the UK. In addition, I
would speak to the persons (in person) both in charge of the shop (shop
foreman) and the dealership manager.

Jeff
JoeSpareBedroom - 22 Feb 2008 20:07 GMT
> My daughters Yaris was serviced at Western Toyota, Cameron Toll,
> Edinburgh.
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>
> TIA

Do what Jeff said. And, in the future, always try and turn a brand name into
a web address. If you're old enough to have a child, you should be old
enough to figure this out.
Scott  in  Florida - 22 Feb 2008 20:25 GMT
>> My daughters Yaris was serviced at Western Toyota, Cameron Toll,
>> Edinburgh.
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>a web address. If you're old enough to have a child, you should be old
>enough to figure this out.

Go pound sand, you sanctimonious prick....

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Scott in Florida

Wickeddoll® - 22 Feb 2008 20:33 GMT
"JoeSpareBedroom" ...
> "BIGEYE" ...
>> My daughters Yaris was serviced at Western Toyota, Cameron Toll,
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> into a web address. If you're old enough to have a child, you should be
> old enough to figure this out.

Was that really necessary?

Natalie
JoeSpareBedroom - 22 Feb 2008 20:38 GMT
> "JoeSpareBedroom" ...
>> "BIGEYE" ...
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>
> Natalie

Absolutely.
Jeff Strickland - 22 Feb 2008 21:41 GMT
>> "JoeSpareBedroom" ...
>>> "BIGEYE" ...
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>
> Absolutely.

New headlines in the NYT, "Joe is an idiot."

They have proof for this story ...

HINT
It was not necessary to belittle the OP.
Scott  in  Florida - 22 Feb 2008 22:13 GMT
>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" ...
>>>> "BIGEYE" ...
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>HINT
>It was not necessary to belittle the OP.

Appology to OP......

Joe is an idiot.....

Don't pay any attention to him....we sure don't.

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Scott in Florida

Roadrunner NG - 22 Feb 2008 23:43 GMT
Scott knows, it doesn't pay.

>>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" ...
>>>>> "BIGEYE" ...
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>
> Don't pay any attention to him....we sure don't.
Wickeddoll® - 23 Feb 2008 00:50 GMT
"Jeff Strickland"

> "JoeSpareBedroom" ...
>> "Wickeddoll®" ...
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> HINT
> It was not necessary to belittle the OP.

I only spoke up because that's the sort of thing that scares people away
from asking questions.  I just don't want the OP to think we attack for no
reason.

Natalie
JoeSpareBedroom - 23 Feb 2008 00:58 GMT
> "Jeff Strickland"
>>
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>
> Natalie

I had a reason. You just didn't agree with it.
Scott  in  Florida - 23 Feb 2008 01:13 GMT
>"Jeff Strickland"
>>
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>
>Natalie

'we' don't...

Joe does....

He is the lowest form of pond scum.....

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Scott in Florida

Jeff Strickland - 23 Feb 2008 01:33 GMT
>> New headlines in the NYT, "Joe is an idiot."
>>
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>
> Natalie

But we do, just look at Joe.

;-)
Wickeddoll® - 23 Feb 2008 02:15 GMT
"Jeff Strickland"...

> "Wickeddoll®" ...
>>>
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>
> ;-)

To quote the old joke, "What do you mean *we* paleface?"

LOL

Natalie
Wickeddoll® - 23 Feb 2008 00:45 GMT
"JoeSpareBedroom" ...
> "Wickeddoll®" " ...
>>> "BIGEYE" ...
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>
> Absolutely.

Well, I disagree.  This person wasn't trolling, so attacking him/her was
uncalled for.

Natalie
JoeSpareBedroom - 23 Feb 2008 00:53 GMT
> "JoeSpareBedroom" ...
>> "Wickeddoll®" " ...
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>
> Natalie

I never said he was trolling. But, how much friggin' grey matter does it
take to guess that if you're looking for a company's phone number, you might
try turning it into www.company.com?  Cripes....
Scott  in  Florida - 23 Feb 2008 01:14 GMT
>> "JoeSpareBedroom" ...
>>> "Wickeddoll®" " ...
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>take to guess that if you're looking for a company's phone number, you might
>try turning it into www.company.com?  Cripes....

Joey you are truly an idiot.

You are useless....and clueless...

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Scott in Florida

Scott  in  Florida - 22 Feb 2008 21:03 GMT
>"JoeSpareBedroom" ...
>> "BIGEYE" ...
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>
>Natalie

Of course it was....

That is how Joey acts.

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Scott in Florida

BIGEYE - 22 Feb 2008 22:21 GMT
Thanks for the amusing replies, I was looking for a UK address where I could
send a complaints letter directly to the appropriate people, as I'm sure
Toyota will receive a lot of mail all of which will be screened. Alas, no
address to send complaints directly, so it will just have to be their main
office. I had checked their website before posting.
Oh - Scott in Florida, I will be another 'Scot in Florida' later this year,
coming over for a holiday.

>>"JoeSpareBedroom" ...
>>> "BIGEYE" ...
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>
> That is how Joey acts.
Jeff - 22 Feb 2008 22:30 GMT
> Thanks for the amusing replies, I was looking for a UK address where I could
> send a complaints letter directly to the appropriate people, as I'm sure
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>>
>> That is how Joey acts.

go here: http://www.toyota.co.uk/ and click on "contact us" at the bottom.

That has Toyota's UK HQ address.

Jeff
Scott  in  Florida - 22 Feb 2008 22:44 GMT
>Thanks for the amusing replies, I was looking for a UK address where I could
>send a complaints letter directly to the appropriate people, as I'm sure
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>Oh - Scott in Florida, I will be another 'Scot in Florida' later this year,
>coming over for a holiday.

Welcome!

Now we are full of tourists.

Looking at the weather up north in the states....no wonder!

>>>"JoeSpareBedroom" ...
>>>> "BIGEYE" ...
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>> That is how Joey acts.
>
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Scott in Florida

Don't Taze Me, Bro! - 22 Feb 2008 22:34 GMT
> "JoeSpareBedroom" ...
>> "BIGEYE" ...
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>
> Natalie

I want to say "that's just joe," but you cannot say "that's just how a
seriel killer acts," and blow it off.
JoeSpareBedroom - 22 Feb 2008 22:36 GMT
>> "JoeSpareBedroom" ...
>>> "BIGEYE" ...
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> I want to say "that's just joe," but you cannot say "that's just how a
> seriel killer acts," and blow it off.

Hold very still for a few seconds....

Bwahahahaha!!!!!!!!   :-)
dbu - 22 Feb 2008 23:09 GMT

> Hold very still for a few seconds....
>
> Bwahahahaha!!!!!!!!   :-)

Junior joe, LOL
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Don't Taze Me, Bro! - 22 Feb 2008 22:32 GMT
> My daughters Yaris was serviced at Western Toyota, Cameron Toll,
> Edinburgh.
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>
> TIA

Sounds more like a case of a bad worker than a bad dealership...

as for the scratches on the body work... that's really a "he said, she
said..." and they do have to be careful with those kind of claims... Unless
you had undeniable proof that there were no scratches on the car before
hand, then you just have to deal with those...
BIGEYE - 22 Feb 2008 23:16 GMT
The onus is on the dealer to produce a pre-work body check report, and the
dealer has offered to repair the scratches FOC  before the other problems
were discovered.
The work was probably carried out by an apprentice, according to my son (a
motor mechanic for renault).

>> My daughters Yaris was serviced at Western Toyota, Cameron Toll,
>> Edinburgh.
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> Unless you had undeniable proof that there were no scratches on the car
> before hand, then you just have to deal with those...
Jeff - 22 Feb 2008 23:31 GMT
> The onus is on the dealer to produce a pre-work body check report, and the
> dealer has offered to repair the scratches FOC  before the other problems
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>> Unless you had undeniable proof that there were no scratches on the car
>> before hand, then you just have to deal with those...

I don't know the law in England, but in the US, it is very hard to prove
that a shop put the scratches in. What you're suggesting is that each
time a shop gets a car, someone goes with the costumer and verifies that
there are no scratches and have the shop representative sign off. I
really doubt that is the law. You're also going to have to have the shop
person go around with a digital camera, take pictures of the empty space
where the tyre change tools are, the loose lugnuts and every conceivable
problem that could arise. This would prevent the shop from doing
anything dishonest. And it would only add about 100 pounds to the cost
of the job.

If the dealer asked to repair the scratches on my car, I would think
that the dealer is trying rip me off. Not all dealers in the US have
body shops.

Jeff

PS, look up top posting on google. You need to learn to do inline
posting. Top posting makes it hard to follow the thread.
 
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