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200 dollars a barrel coming soon?

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Don't Taze Me, Bro! - 15 Apr 2008 06:54 GMT
Just wonder when its going to happen... I have no doubt that it will happen.

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JoeSpareBedroom - 15 Apr 2008 13:34 GMT
> Just wonder when its going to happen... I have no doubt that it will
> happen.

All the commodity gamblers need to do is invent a reason. How about "on
fears of renewed violence in Iraq"?  They've used that successfully 2-3
times in the past.
Reasoned Insanity - 15 Apr 2008 14:02 GMT
> Just wonder when its going to happen... I have no doubt that it will
> happen.

Of coarse. No matter how little we drive, the oil companies are always going
to cut production enough to keep the supply low and the prices going higher.
witfal - 15 Apr 2008 15:06 GMT
>> Just wonder when its going to happen... I have no doubt that it will
>> happen.
>
> Of coarse. No matter how little we drive, the oil companies are always going
> to cut production enough to keep the supply low and the prices going higher.

You need to read more.  Start with "Sleeping with the Devil", author's
name is Baer.

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and beat you with experience!

larry moe 'n curly - 15 Apr 2008 17:10 GMT
> > Just wonder when its going to happen... I have no doubt that it will
> > happen.
>
> Of coarse. No matter how little we drive, the oil companies are always going
> to cut production enough to keep the supply low and the prices going higher.

So why did oil reach $10 a barrel back in late 1999, with gasoline
about $1/gallon back then?  At the time, articles in serious
publications, like the Economist, speculated that oil would never go
back up in price because new technology made it possible to find so
much more oil.
larry moe 'n curly - 15 Apr 2008 16:16 GMT
> Just wonder when its going to happen... I have no doubt that it will happen.

Do you remember back when a question like that seemed crazy?

Do you remember back when Republicans were the fiscal conservatives?

We cut short term interest rates roughly in half because our deficits
are so big that tax cuts can no longer stimulate the economy much any
more.  Ben Stein's father said deficits financed with loose money
always resulted in inflation.
Mike hunt - 16 Apr 2008 00:16 GMT
It is time to write to your Congressmen and Senators, at lest once a week,
to get them off their stupid a.ses and start drilling in the fast oil
reserves we have in Alaska and in our territorial waters and to set a
nationwide, three of four standard  gasoline mixtures, before that happens.

>> Just wonder when its going to happen... I have no doubt that it will
>> happen.
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> more.  Ben Stein's father said deficits financed with loose money
> always resulted in inflation.
Jeff - 16 Apr 2008 00:19 GMT
> It is time to write to your Congressmen and Senators, at lest once a week,
> to get them off their stupid a.ses and start drilling in the fast oil
> reserves we have in Alaska and in our territorial waters and to set a
> nationwide, three of four standard  gasoline mixtures, before that happens.

I didn't know Congressmen and Senators knew how to drill oil wells. I
thought oil companies did that. What about Congresswomen? Should they
drill, too? Or just the men in Congress?

What four standard gasoline mixtures do we have now? Which three of them
do you suggest?

Jeff

>>> Just wonder when its going to happen... I have no doubt that it will
>>> happen.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>> more.  Ben Stein's father said deficits financed with loose money
>> always resulted in inflation.
Don't Taze Me, Bro! - 16 Apr 2008 01:24 GMT
>> It is time to write to your Congressmen and Senators, at lest once a
>> week, to get them off their stupid a.ses and start drilling in the fast
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Jeff

Jeff, in order for us to drill in ANWR, it has to be aproved by the congess
and President. That is why he is telling people to write congress.
Scott in Florida - 16 Apr 2008 01:34 GMT
>>> It is time to write to your Congressmen and Senators, at lest once a
>>> week, to get them off their stupid a.ses and start drilling in the fast
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>Jeff, in order for us to drill in ANWR, it has to be aproved by the congess
>and President. That is why he is telling people to write congress.

Amen, bro!

My congress person is getting a nice friendly letter from me.

1. Lock the borders
2. Round up ALL the illegal's and deport them.
3. Change the law that says if your are born here you are automatically a
citizen (if you are born to an illegal).
4. Allow drilling for oil everywhere in the country....including off the
coast of Florida.
5. Make Nukes easy to build.

Just to start with.

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Jeff - 16 Apr 2008 01:37 GMT
>>> It is time to write to your Congressmen and Senators, at lest once a
>>> week, to get them off their stupid a.ses and start drilling in the fast
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> Jeff, in order for us to drill in ANWR, it has to be aproved by the congess
> and President. That is why he is telling people to write congress.

But, he is telling us to write to Congressmen and Senators to start
drilling rather than approve drilling, which are two different things.

In addition, for some reason, he leaves out Congresswomen.

Jeff
JoeSpareBedroom - 16 Apr 2008 01:39 GMT
>>>> It is time to write to your Congressmen and Senators, at lest once a
>>>> week, to get them off their stupid a.ses and start drilling in the fast
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Jeff

Now you're just adding clutter to the discussion, Jeff.
Don't Taze Me, Bro! - 16 Apr 2008 02:32 GMT
>>>> It is time to write to your Congressmen and Senators, at lest once a
>>>> week, to get them off their stupid a.ses and start drilling in the fast
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> But, he is telling us to write to Congressmen and Senators to start
> drilling rather than approve drilling, which are two different things.

you knew what he meant... you were just being an obnoxious dick
Jeff - 16 Apr 2008 02:39 GMT
>>>>> It is time to write to your Congressmen and Senators, at lest once a
>>>>> week, to get them off their stupid a.ses and start drilling in the fast
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> you knew what he meant... you were just being an obnoxious dick

No, I don't know what he meant. What he says is so stupid, I won't guess.

If he wants to make himself understood, he needs to edit his words.

Jeff
Don't Taze Me, Bro! - 16 Apr 2008 03:10 GMT
> No, I don't know what he meant.

Then you are a f.cking retard.

>What he says is so stupid, I won't guess.

Everyone got it but you.

> If he wants to make himself understood, he needs to edit his words.

You mean that if he wants to make himself understood TO YOU then he should
edit his words? Sucks for you that he does not talk like a retard.
Mike hunt - 16 Apr 2008 20:18 GMT
Surly you do not expect me to waist my valuable time proof reading my post,
when there are guys like you that have nothing else to do but pick out a
part in every post with which to disagree   LOL

>>>>>> It is time to write to your Congressmen and Senators, at lest once a
>>>>>> week, to get them off their stupid a.ses and start drilling in the
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>
> Jeff
rantonrave@mail.com - 16 Apr 2008 01:43 GMT
>It is time to write to your Congressmen and Senators, at lest once a week,
>to get them off their stupid a.ses and start drilling in the fast oil
>reserves we have in Alaska and in our territorial waters and to set a
>nationwide, three of four standard  gasoline mixtures, before that happens.

Having 20+ gasoline formulations is ridiculous, but there is no oil
shortage, as evidenced by all the people driving alone in large SUVs
and buying $4 Starbucks coffee.  The US could import 70% less energy
if people lived liked me, and I'm hardly scraping by in a hut.
Reasoned Insanity - 16 Apr 2008 02:05 GMT
>>It is time to write to your Congressmen and Senators, at lest once a week,
>>to get them off their stupid a.ses and start drilling in the fast oil
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> and buying $4 Starbucks coffee.  The US could import 70% less energy
> if people lived liked me, and I'm hardly scraping by in a hut.

I'm living well under my means in my house that is way too big for me at
2200 square feet. I like renting out spare bedrooms and making extra cash
though.
The Henchman - 16 Apr 2008 02:27 GMT
> I'm living well under my means in my house that is way too big for me at
> 2200 square feet. I like renting out spare bedrooms and making extra cash
> though.

You are doing things the right way.  Good for you.  Too bad we don't have
more enterprising and intelligent people like you in our nation.
rantonrave@mail.com - 16 Apr 2008 23:59 GMT
>>Having 20+ gasoline formulations is ridiculous, but there is no oil
>>shortage, as evidenced by all the people driving alone in large SUVs
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>2200 square feet. I like renting out spare bedrooms and making extra cash
>though.

The main house is 4400 ft^2, the house in back 1200, and we don't keep
the thermostat up to save on A/C.  High mass and zoning every room cut
way back on energy usage.
The Henchman - 16 Apr 2008 02:26 GMT
>>It is time to write to your Congressmen and Senators, at lest once a week,
>>to get them off their stupid a.ses and start drilling in the fast oil
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> and buying $4 Starbucks coffee.  The US could import 70% less energy
> if people lived liked me, and I'm hardly scraping by in a hut.

You must be this chatroom's f.cking retard.   Shut your f.cking mouth
a.shole before you make yourself look even more retarded.

Hey a.shole why drill your own when you can drain everyone else's oil first.
Import as much oil as you can so you can save yours until the end.  f.ck you
must be a f.cking stupid retard.  I repeat KEEP IMPORTING AS MUCH OIL AS YOU
CAN SO YOU DRAIN THEIR RESERVES FIRST.

You are a f.cking retarded loser and hopefully you will die tomorrow so you
cannot have children and continue to spew stupid policy statements that ruin
our society.
Mike hunt - 16 Apr 2008 20:13 GMT
Come on, tell us how your REALLY feel.    You are too late with the
procreation comment, already I have five children, eleven grand-children and
three great grand-children, over ten years old.

By the time we run out of oil we will be powering most everything with
nuclear generated electric power and using oil made from our own three
hundred year supply of coal        LOL

>>>It is time to write to your Congressmen and Senators, at lest once a
>>>week,
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> you cannot have children and continue to spew stupid policy statements
> that ruin our society.
The Henchman - 16 Apr 2008 22:11 GMT
> Come on, tell us how your REALLY feel.    You are too late with the
> procreation comment, already I have five children, eleven grand-children
> and three great grand-children, over ten years old.

Procreation is the easiest thing to do.   You were programmed to do it.
It's the only thing in life you didn't have to learn.
mrsteveo - 16 Apr 2008 22:14 GMT
> <rantonr...@mail.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> cannot have children and continue to spew stupid policy statements that ruin
> our society.

I don't think 'IMPORT AS MUCH OIL AS YOU CAN SO YOU DRAIN THEIR
RESERVES FIRST' is a great plan.  That's a pretty narrow minded
statement in and of itself.

Part of the problem with IMPORTING OIL is it's expensive -- very
expensive and at some point, the US is likely going to piss off a key
member of OPEC and where will we be then?  I don't want to keep
IMPORTING oil hoping that day never comes and/or IMPORT the oil until
the reserves elsewhere run dry.  That just doesn't seem logical.

I think it'd be wise we start looking for our own oil on our own turf
so we're not so dependent and then when/if oil reserves start drying
out, we're a few steps ahead and maybe for a change the world can be
dependent on us for oil.

That seems like the most logical choice when all things are
considered; at least, if you ask me.
rantonrave@mail.com - 16 Apr 2008 23:53 GMT
>>Having 20+ gasoline formulations is ridiculous, but there is no oil
>>shortage, as evidenced by all the people driving alone in large SUVs
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>must be a f.cking stupid retard.  I repeat KEEP IMPORTING AS MUCH OIL AS YOU
>CAN SO YOU DRAIN THEIR RESERVES FIRST.

That's essentially what we've been doing because the foreign suppliers
are much cheaper, and the US hasn't had an energy policy since 1981.

>You are a f.cking retarded loser and hopefully you will die tomorrow so you
>cannot have children and continue to spew stupid policy statements that ruin
>ur society.

It's too late; I already have grandchildren.  I hope you grow up one
day, too.
 
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