"Jeff Strickland" ...
> There's a story in the Travel Section of the morning paper today about
> foreigners visiting the Grand Canyon. They are flocking here because of
> the weak dollar and LOW GAS PRICES. I got a chuckle from that one.
They're right - we're still getting better prices.
Natalie
> "Wickeddoll®" > ...
>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24317610/
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>> :-P
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>> Natalie
Jeff Strickland - 28 Apr 2008 03:00 GMT
> "Jeff Strickland" ...
>> There's a story in the Travel Section of the morning paper today about
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> Natalie
Well yeah, but we're complaining about them. It's only been a few days since
you lamented the fact that you spent $35 to fill your tank. YOU are merely
lamenting, but there are plenty of people complaining.
> There's a story in the Travel Section of the morning paper today about
> foreigners visiting the Grand Canyon. They are flocking here because of
> the weak dollar and LOW GAS PRICES. I got a chuckle from that one.
Compared with abroad, our gas prices *are* extremely low. They have tons
more tax added to their gas. In Norway, it goes for paying for national
health care, for ex.
Cathy
>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24317610/
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>> :-P
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>> Natalie
Bill Putney - 28 Apr 2008 10:53 GMT
> Compared with abroad, our gas prices *are* extremely low. They have tons
> more tax added to their gas. In Norway, it goes for paying for national
> health care, for ex.
Bring this up again the next time we have a debate on health care. :)
Bill Putney
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Bill Putney - 28 Apr 2008 11:18 GMT
>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24317610/
Apparently Norway is totally socialist - Democrats here are undoubtedly
envious. On a car forum I frequent, here are some posts copied from one
thread - a guy from Norway was casually mentioning prices he was paying
for repairs, which started some questions and some startling answers.
Dialog copied word-for-word (posted less than a year ago - the car is a
'99 model):
*Norwegian"
"...They changed ABS-pump and ABS controller plus a small piece of brake
line.
"Price 4.500 US$ included 12 hours work !! I protested (?) wildly and
got it reduced to 3.900.
So now its only bread and water for the next few months..."
*A U.S. forum member:
"Is that $4,500 US ?? Holy crap! You could buy the whole car here for
that! I think it's time to start importing 300m's to Norway!!"
*Norwegian:
"Yes, it is US$ (27349 Norwegian kroner) I got it [the car] for 22287
"The car was US$ 25000 4 months ago. That's not so bad here.We have a
'luxury' (?) tax which is horrible, based on horse-powers and CO2 exhaust."
*A U.S. forum member:
"Are you saying you paid over $22,000 US for a 1999 300M? That's
outright crazy. I paid 28k for my 2000 300M when I bought it in 2000
brand spanking new and that's loaded with all available options. Maybe I
should go in the export business and export used 300 Ms to Norway.
"How much is the tax that you paid on the car?"
*Norwegian:
"The tax has several elements.
For 2001 models and older:
First you have
'OneTimeTax' consist of:
'Weight Tax' in kilos (kg)
'Engine Volume Tax' in cubic-centimeters (ccm3)
'Engine Power Tax' in kilowatts (kW)
"So if the car is 1640 kg, 2736 ccm3 (2,7 L ) and 149 kW (My 300M)"
"Weight Tax NOK 94191,- = US$ 15698,-
Engine Volume Tax NOK 120493,- = US$ 20082,-
Engine Power Tax NOK 116371,- = US$ 19395,-
"This adds to US$ 55176,-
"We can deduct for used cars : 1 year 17%, up to 15 yrs 80%.
"So 1999 mod makes 8 years and 59 % , and I have to pay
US$ 22622,-
"plus 'Import Tax' which is 25% of what you paid for the car abroad
including freight,
"For 2001 and newer it is CO2 tax instead of Engine Volume
300C 2007 model is about US$ 110 K and up.
"Nice,isn't it?"
Bill Putney
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dbu - 28 Apr 2008 13:09 GMT
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That's what's coming here IF the far left wing extremists get their way
and they will if we have the dims take over total control for several
years.

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Scott in Florida - 28 Apr 2008 15:38 GMT
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>> foreigners visiting the Grand Canyon. They are flocking here because of
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>Cathy
I thought government run health care was free....
It amazes me that people want the 'government' to run their health
care.
The same government that 'heped' out in New Orleans....

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Reminds me of the TV commercial in my area for "Affordable Oil Heat". If
oil heat is "affordable" now, what was it 20 years ago? free? :)
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