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Forgot why you hated the Clintons? Here is a reminder. Clinton Camp Says It Will Use The Nuclear Option http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/04/clinton-camp-considering_n_100051.html >Forgot why you hated the Clintons? Here is a reminder. > >Clinton Camp Says It Will Use The Nuclear Option > >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/04/clinton-camp-considering_n_100051.html Two words.... Operation Chaos.... It is working!!!!!!!!!!!!!  SignatureScott in Florida > >Forgot why you hated the Clintons? Here is a reminder. > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > It is working!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd say something is going on. First she said she will abide by the rules, but wait, now she's losing, lets throw out the rules. If she has her way there will be some pissed off obama followers. I say good, the dims are always pissed off and bitter. I hope they get even more bitter. SignatureWhenever I watch TV and see those poor starving kids all over the world, I can't help but cry. I mean I'd love to be skinny like that, but not with all those flies and death and stuff.' --Mariah Carey > I'd say something is going on. First she said she will abide by the > rules, but wait, now she's losing, lets throw out the rules. If she has > her way there will be some pissed off obama followers. I say good, the > dims are always pissed off and bitter. I hope they get even more > bitter. But do they cling to their religion and their guns? :) Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') > On Mon, 5 May 2008 10:29:37 -0700 (PDT), "edspyhil...@yahoo.com" > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Scott in Florida Hate to disappoint you but chaos does NOT scare democrats. It is what scares republicans so you threaten to give us chaos. We're just sitting around with our cheese plates, fondue pots, California wines, NYT and Washington Posts, maybe the LA Times, just enjoying the democratic process. Seems all the news pundits and republicans are having a problem with this primary election. And you know who else is having a problem? McNasty, because he doesn't know who he is playing in the super bowl. The longer we draw this out the worse McNasty is going to have it. No matter who the democratic nominee is, that person will be fit, trim, and trained like a boxer with the eye of the tiger. Ha! Remember Brere Rabbit - "Oh please don't throw me in dat dere briar patch"? Well, please don't cause chaos with the democrats. Hahahahahaha! Too funny. Ed S. In message news:89e14ff9-06c3-425e-b515- 0cfb19127ccf@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, "edspyhill01@yahoo.com" <edspyhill01@yahoo.com> burned some brain cells writing: > Hate to disappoint you but chaos does NOT scare democrats. It is what > scares republicans so you threaten to give us chaos. We're just > sitting around with our cheese plates, fondue pots, California wines, > NYT and Washington Posts, maybe the LA Times, just enjoying the > democratic process. Except in Michigan and Florida, where one smoke-filled room full of a.sholes trumped two other smoke-filled rooms full of a.sholes. > In message news:89e14ff9-06c3-425e-b515- > 0cfb19127ccf@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, "edspyhill01@yahoo.com" [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Except in Michigan and Florida, where one smoke-filled room full of > a.sholes trumped two other smoke-filled rooms full of a.sholes. Rush Limbaugh and his chaos is about all the liberal pundits are talking about. Limbaugh scares the hell out of the democrats, that's why they would like to bring back the fartness doctrine. Republicans oppose it. Republicans defend free speech and many other freedoms. Democrats want to restrict personal freedoms, that is so they can keep the masses under control, which is needed in a socialist state. SignatureWhenever I watch TV and see those poor starving kids all over the world, I can't help but cry. I mean I'd love to be skinny like that, but not with all those flies and death and stuff.' --Mariah Carey >> On Mon, 5 May 2008 10:29:37 -0700 (PDT), "edspyhil...@yahoo.com" >> [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > >Ed S. Nice try.... ROFLMAO SignatureScott in Florida > On Mon, 5 May 2008 19:34:12 -0700 (PDT), "edspyhil...@yahoo.com" > [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > - Show quoted text - You spend a lot of time on the floor. In message news:0c1f7710-20f0-412d-b25b-22291a3d7f23@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, "edspyhill01@yahoo.com" <edspyhill01@yahoo.com> burned some brain cells writing: > Forgot why you hated the Clintons? Here is a reminder. > > Clinton Camp Says It Will Use The Nuclear Option > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/04/clinton-camp-considering_n_1000 > 51.html Why shouldn't the vote of a Michigander or Floridian be counted? > In messagenews:0c1f7710-20f0-412d-b25b-22291a3d7f23@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, > "edspyhil...@yahoo.com" <edspyhil...@yahoo.com> burned some brain cells [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Why shouldn't the vote of a Michigander or Floridian be counted? Those states were given a choice, move up your primaries and the delegates will not be seated. Florida and Michigan said, screw it. PLUS, all the democratic candidates, including Hillary, aggreed not to campaign in those 2 states AND not all the candidates were on the ballots. So the citizens of those 2 states show complain to their state governments. If they want to count the delegates split the delegates between Barack & Hillary. Ed S. In message news:95f0cf3b-0fe3-4716-adc2-a56f770f6064@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, "edspyhill01@yahoo.com" <edspyhill01@yahoo.com> burned some brain cells writing: >> In >> messagenews:0c1f7710-20f0-412d-b25b-22291a3d7f23@x41g2000hsb.googlegrou [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Those states were given a choice, A state is an inanimate object, therefore one cannot give a state a choice. How many VOTERS were given a choice? > So the citizens of those 2 states show complain to their > state governments. Your ignorance knows no bounds. It is the state party, not the "state government", which chooses the primary date. > If they want to count the delegates split the delegates between Barack > & Hillary. That seems rather pointless. Like your post. Anyone with a brain want to answer the original question: Why shouldn't the vote of a Michigander or Floridian be counted? > In message > news:95f0cf3b-0fe3-4716-adc2-a56f770f6064@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Why shouldn't the vote of a Michigander or Floridian be counted? Because the DNC set rules which stated that Mi and Fl could not move their primaries up in time, they did so the DNC stated their votes wouldn't count. Hillary said (at the time) they/we should go along with the rules the DNC set up. Now that Hillary needs those votes, she wants to go back and have them count. That does not seem fair as Obama elected not to campaign in those two states because of the rules set by the DNC. The whole damn thing stinks, including hillary and the whole DNC and it's silly system of primary elections. However, what do we expect from dims. This is how they would run the country, haphazardly. SignatureWhenever I watch TV and see those poor starving kids all over the world, I can't help but cry. I mean I'd love to be skinny like that, but not with all those flies and death and stuff.' --Mariah Carey > In article <Xns9A95A0CA25E26KlarkK...@66.250.146.128>, > [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > - Show quoted text - . > expect from dims. This is how they would run the country, haphazardly. Amen! But it's not the "dims", but Hillary who will govern haphazardly. Remember how Bill always stuck his finger into the wind and acted accordingly, slavishly bending to every poll? That's how Hillary will govern. Might be a good thing for the republicans. The congress was republican when Bill was president and they got him to pass most of the republican bills to forward the republican agenda. > In messagenews:95f0cf3b-0fe3-4716-adc2-a56f770f6064@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, > "edspyhil...@yahoo.com" <edspyhil...@yahoo.com> burned some brain cells [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Listen sh.t for brains. The "state" is represented by people. Nobody talked to an inanimate "state" or "party" AND either one answered. No, turd breath, people talked to people. The votes in both states were counted. Period. The people voted and had their votes counted. When the DNC told the citizens of Michigan and Florida that if their states moved the primaries up then their delegates would not be seated at the convention, they went ahead anyway. The citizens of those states agreed with the rules set by the DNC and also agreed to move up the primaries. All actions have consequences. Thumbing your nose at the world is useless and that's what both those states did. The Michigan and Florida delegates should not be seated. Stupid pimple-faced w.nker. You really want to be Lois Lane. > The Michigan and Florida delegates should > not be seated. Will they be allowed to stand? On May 5, 10:52 pm, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> wrote: > edspyhil...@yahoo.com, 5/5/2008,10:45:28 PM, wrote: > > The Michigan and Florida delegates should > > not be seated. > > Will they be allowed to stand? How can you seat the delegates when 45% of Michigan voters literally voted for "undecided" because Obama and other candidates were not on the ballot? I'm not sure of the ballot in Florida. Nobody campaigned in either state. All the democratic candidates agreed to not campaign and to ask for their names to be removed from the ballots. The 2 states did not want to go the expense of printing new ballots. Total confusion reigned. In message news:24ca04f6-3d5e-423f-b0e8-c3c82520248c@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com, "edspyhill01@yahoo.com" <edspyhill01@yahoo.com> burned some brain cells writing: >> In >> messagenews:95f0cf3b-0fe3-4716-adc2-a56f770f6064@a1g2000hsb.googlegroup [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > talked to an inanimate "state" or "party" AND either one answered. > No, turd breath, people talked to people. Oooh, TWO ad hominems. Your dick must be SO stiff now. > The votes in both states were counted. Period. The people voted and > had their votes counted. When the DNC told the citizens of Michigan > and Florida that if their states moved the primaries up then their > delegates would not be seated at the convention, they went ahead > anyway. The citizens of those states agreed with the rules set by the > DNC and also agreed to move up the primaries. Wrong. "The citizens" didn't agree to ANYTHING. > In messagenews:24ca04f6-3d5e-423f-b0e8-c3c82520248c@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com, > "edspyhil...@yahoo.com" <edspyhil...@yahoo.com> burned some brain cells [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > Oooh, TWO ad hominems. Your dick must be SO stiff now. Now you're scaring me. >In message >news:0c1f7710-20f0-412d-b25b-22291a3d7f23@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Why shouldn't the vote of a Michigander or Floridian be counted? Cause the two states told the Dims to go to Hell..... SignatureScott in Florida > >In message > >news:0c1f7710-20f0-412d-b25b-22291a3d7f23@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Scott in Florida Oh yeah, just like republicans do? All you republican lemmings are such iconoclasts, free wheeling, free spirited mavericks. Right, in Bizzaro world. > Forgot why you hated the Clintons? Here is a reminder. > > Clinton Camp Says It Will Use The Nuclear Option > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/04/clinton-camp-considering_n_10 > 0051.html Mrs. Clinton continues to exhibit the resiliency she has portrayed over the last two decades. It is unnerving that she may actually pull off the scam right in front of everyone who is watching. I fear Operation Chaos may backfire and this woman who stands for everything I despise actually make it to the White House. The only thing good thus far has been the weaknesses of Mr. Obama that she has exposed. I wonder when he will begin fighting fire with fire himself. Certainly he can recruit rattlesnakes similar to James Carville that would know how to fight dirty. SignatureThe reason there are so few female politicians is that it is too much trouble to put makeup on two faces. ~ Maureen Murphy On May 5, 11:36 pm, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> wrote: > edspyhil...@yahoo.com, 5/5/2008,1:29:37 PM, wrote: > > Forgot why you hated the Clintons? Here is a reminder. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > “The reason there are so few female politicians is that it is too much > trouble to put makeup on two faces.” ~ Maureen Murphy I think everything about Obama has been discovered and talked to death and he has weathered it all. There are many things about Hillary still undiscovered and not discussed. She went through a 60's radical period, she did legal work that has been criticized, she was a "Goldwater Girl", there still are the options profits and whitewater that will be trotted out. I think the Clintons can fight dirty on their own. In article <7f402afd-d8cc-4420-8882-c319483af85a@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, > On May 5, 11:36 pm, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > that will be trotted out. I think the Clintons can fight dirty on > their own. We've only scratched the surface with MR. OBAMMA. I think there's a lot in his closet we need to know about. Like his flirting with hard narcotics and the relationship he has had either directly or indirectly with Mr. Louis Farrakhan and HIS church. I'm also concerned about the way he wants to approach the terrorists and how much money he is receiving either directly or indirectly from entities overseas and who they are. This man is about as close to a socialist as we have seen in 60 years. SignatureWhenever I watch TV and see those poor starving kids all over the world, I can't help but cry. I mean I'd love to be skinny like that, but not with all those flies and death and stuff.' --Mariah Carey > In article > <7f402afd-d8cc-4420-8882-c319483af85a@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > they are. This man is about as close to a socialist as we have seen in > 60 years. Black liberation theology is a direct offshoot of Marxism. Offshoot is to strong a word - it is a branch of Marxism. What Hillary and he both would try to do to this country is also Marxism. Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') > ...Offshoot is > to strong a word... Oops - "...too>>>". Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') > > ...Offshoot is > > to strong a word... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > address with the letter 'x') That's ok, I know how to "read between the lines" and oversee small typos. Some of the regulars are very nit-picking, I'm not. SignatureWhenever I watch TV and see those poor starving kids all over the world, I can't help but cry. I mean I'd love to be skinny like that, but not with all those flies and death and stuff.' --Mariah Carey > > In article > > <7f402afd-d8cc-4420-8882-c319483af85a@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > address with the letter 'x') Very chilling isn't it. It seems to me that before we start overtaxing oil companies, I think it's about time we remove the tax exempt status of churches and religious groups. It is clear, at least to me, that at least some of the religious groups have morphed into something wholly different than what we think they are. These money generating organizations need to be taxed and taxed at least as much as companies are taxed. SignatureWhenever I watch TV and see those poor starving kids all over the world, I can't help but cry. I mean I'd love to be skinny like that, but not with all those flies and death and stuff.' --Mariah Carey > > In article > > <7f402afd-d8cc-4420-8882-c319483af...@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Marxism is permanently discredited throughout the world. I also think our form of unfettered capitalism is also on the way to the same fate. When we have Lou Dobbs saying our current form of unfettered capitalism is destroying the US economy and we need restraints on business, that is a sea change of enormous proportions. In message news:4747080a-ec36-4bbf-b4f1- d0cf2c5208dd@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com, "edspyhill01@yahoo.com" <edspyhill01@yahoo.com> burned some brain cells writing: > I also think > our form of unfettered capitalism is also on the way to the same > fate. The US doesn't have "unfettered capitalism". > When we have Lou Dobbs saying our current form of unfettered > capitalism is destroying the US economy and we need restraints on > business What we need is restraint on government. > In message news:4747080a-ec36-4bbf-b4f1- > d0cf2c520...@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com, "edspyhil...@yahoo.com" [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > What we need is restraint on government. Consider restraint and controls on both and we might agree. In message news:c9f5a0ad-6a09-4418-a249- c91492a4d614@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com, "edspyhill01@yahoo.com" <edspyhill01@yahoo.com> burned some brain cells writing: >> In message news:4747080a-ec36-4bbf-b4f1- >> d0cf2c520...@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com, "edspyhil...@yahoo.com" [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Consider restraint and controls on both and we might agree. EVERYTHING about business is ALREADY controlled and restrained. Name ONE aspect of business that isn't taxed, regulated, restrained, mandated or prohibited, or doesn't need a permit, an "environmental impact study", a SOX-compliant paper trail, a zoning review or a twelve-step approval process that takes years to wend its way through hallways, cubicles and offices of incompetent govco imbeciles who couldn't get jobs in the industries they regulate. So go for it. Identify ONE aspect of business that is not so encumbered: 1. > In message news:c9f5a0ad-6a09-4418-a249- > c91492a4d...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com, "edspyhil...@yahoo.com" [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Well, we could limit speculating on commodities futures. This is driving up the price of oil, rice, wheat, corn, and other necessities. The oil companies should pay windfall profit taxes unless they show concretely that "excess" profits are rolled back into things like gasoline refineries, oil tanker improvements, phisical plant and infrastructure. Make Healthcare insurance providers nonprofit when selling health insurance to individuals, maybe even everyone. Note: Nonprofit allows paying some shithead CEO hundreds of millions of dollars to bang his secretary and play golf. That's a start. > ...The oil companies should pay windfall profit taxes unless they show > concretely that "excess" profits are rolled back into things like > gasoline refineries, oil tanker improvements, phisical plant and > infrastructure. Since when is less than 10% profit a windfall profit? > Make Healthcare insurance providers nonprofit when selling health > insurance to individuals, maybe even everyone. Note: Nonprofit allows > paying some shithead CEO hundreds of millions of dollars to bang his > secretary and play golf. That's your reason for making healthcare insurers non-profit? Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') In message news:42b6b29d-23a6-40d6-9309- 3770ccdc2ceb@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, "edspyhill01@yahoo.com" <edspyhill01@yahoo.com> burned some brain cells writing: >> In message news:c9f5a0ad-6a09-4418-a249- >> c91492a4d...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com, "edspyhil...@yahoo.com" [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Well, we could limit speculating on commodities futures. Price controls? Oh great, taking economic guidance from Dick Nixon. > This is > driving up the price of oil, rice, wheat, corn, and other necessities. Grain prices are being pressured by idiots pushing ethanol. Let me ask you something. Multiple choice. If the world price for oil is $100 a barrel, and the US government "limits speculation" on oil by setting a price ceiling of $80 a barrel, how much oil will producers sell to the US? a. none of their oil b. none of their oil c. none of their oil > The oil companies should pay windfall profit taxes Oil companies' profit margins average 10%, far lower than many other industries such as media. How about a "windfall profit tax" on liberal Hollywood media companies like Time-Warner (profit margin 19%). > unless they show > concretely that "excess" profits are rolled back into things like > gasoline refineries, oil tanker improvements, phisical plant and > infrastructure. Most of these are subject to the red tape and other government encumberances detailed above. Want to know why there have been no refineries built in a generation? Ask Greenpeace and the Environmental Defense Fund. > Make Healthcare insurance providers nonprofit when selling health > insurance to individuals, maybe even everyone. Oh, so you want to destroy the earnings of teachers unions whose pension plans are invested in them. Example: TIAA-CREF's College Retirement Equities Fund owns over 5 million shares of Aetna, over 2 million shares of McKesson, and more than a million shares each of Humana and Coventry Health Care. By the way, you didn't answer the question. Identify ONE aspect of business that is not encumbered as I outlined above: 1. > > Forgot why you hated the Clintons? Here is a reminder. > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > recruit rattlesnakes similar to James Carville that would know how to > fight dirty. The klintons are like cockroaches, you can't never really get rid of them. SignatureWhenever I watch TV and see those poor starving kids all over the world, I can't help but cry. I mean I'd love to be skinny like that, but not with all those flies and death and stuff.' --Mariah Carey > In article <xn0fpu2dg4eb8mc...@news.east.cox.net>, > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > - Show quoted text - You were listening to Bill Press this morning, or Bob Schefer. > Forgot why you hated the Clintons? Here is a reminder. > > Clinton Camp Says It Will Use The Nuclear Option > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/04/clinton-camp-considering_n_100051.html McCain is the one that's most upset about Clinton's loss. She would have been a weak candidate. Instead he's got Obama, who rivals Reagan and Kennedy in charisma, but with more substance than Reagan. > McCain is the one that's most upset about Clinton's loss. She would have > been a weak candidate. Instead he's got Obama, who rivals Reagan and > Kennedy in charisma, but with more substance than Reagan. Yous guys is really funny man. -- >> Forgot why you hated the Clintons? Here is a reminder. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > been a weak candidate. Instead he's got Obama, who rivals Reagan and >Kennedy in charisma, but with more substance than Reagan. ROFLMAO Don't use Reagan and Kennedy in the same sentence as Barry. SignatureScott in Florida |
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