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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / May 2008(OT:) My 'admiration' for Ted Kennedy is GONE!
THere have been several times over the past 5 years when I have said the thing Kennedy does right is the work he does for his constituents. We can change that now... Happy Mother's Day: a friend of mine from Bangalore (You know, the help dek of the world...)wanted her mother to come for a month, in time for Mother's day. Three trips to the US Embassy in India have yielded no results, except for the Embassy...$125 bucks a pop for paperwork processing fees. The woman (here) is a US Citizen, so I told her to call Kennedy's office. "We're sorry, the Senator doesn't want to get involved in anything like that." OK, Ted. Your only use is exhausted. Leave, please. Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B, 5/10/2008,11:06:23 PM, wrote: > THere have been several times over the past 5 years when I have said > the thing Kennedy does right is the work he does for his [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > OK, Ted. Your only use is exhausted. Leave, please. Maybe if you send him a bottle of scotch....  Signature"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." ~ Aesop > Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B, 5/10/2008,11:06:23 PM, wrote: > > Happy Mother's Day: a friend of mine from Bangalore (You know, the > > help dek of the world...)wanted her mother to come for a month, in [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Maybe if you send him a bottle of scotch.... A mere bottle? Are you joking? > THere have been several times over the past 5 years when I have said the > thing Kennedy does right is the work he does for his constituents. We can [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > OK, Ted. Your only use is exhausted. Leave, please. Wouldn't it have been easier for the US citizen to fly to India? Or maybe start the complicated post 9/11 process sooner? Maybe you should less self-centered. Maybe you should have called your caring hero dubya? He would have surely pulled some strings. >> The woman (here) is a US Citizen, so I told her to call Kennedy's >> office. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > less self-centered. Maybe you should have called your caring hero > dubya? He would have surely pulled some strings. Man, you just like to attack, don't you? Let me put this more specifically. In the past 5 years in this group, when people ask how Kennedy keeps getting elected, I answer that he takes care of his contituents. In this case, it is a bit of a hardship for the woman to leave the US. She can go, but that's it. It means, for yet another year, Grandma won't be able to see her granddaughters. She has *NEVER* seen her granddaughters. It was a mater of shipping one person here from India, or shipping three from here to India. Sending three people is out of the question. The woman is 67 years old, and has no intention of staying in the US. So, again, the granddaughters get left behind. Now, how does that make me self-centered? I don't get that one. It's not my mother that wants to come for a visit. And when did I ever say I was a Bush supporter? >>> The woman (here) is a US Citizen, so I told her to call Kennedy's >>> office. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > And when did I ever say I was a Bush supporter? That's why Ed Syphilis is on my blocked list, too. Knee-jerk left liberals go to the list. I've heard their stuff before and again and again and again. Remember when they used to rail at Ronny Ray-Gun? Charles the Curmudgeon >>> The woman (here) is a US Citizen, so I told her to call Kennedy's >>> office. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > And when did I ever say I was a Bush supporter? And what's worse is our own Senator here in Illinois seems to be his understudy these days. Dick the Duck Phucker Durbin seems to be as far left as Teddy is. Hasn't drowned any secretaries yet, though. But there are no little bridges around here for him to drive off of. Charles the Curmudgeon. >> THere have been several times over the past 5 years when I have said >> the thing Kennedy does right is the work he does for his constituents. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > less self-centered. Maybe you should have called your caring hero > dubya? He would have surely pulled some strings. See my response to JSB. Kennedy is bending over backwards to help illegals get US citizenship, but won't help Granny come to the US to see her granddaughters. Must be because she won't be staying, and therefore won't become a voter. > THere have been several times over the past 5 years when I have said the > thing Kennedy does right is the work he does for his constituents. We can [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > OK, Ted. Your only use is exhausted. Leave, please. Have they started grooming another kennedy to replace him? Any speculation? -- > > THere have been several times over the past 5 years when I have said the > > thing Kennedy does right is the work he does for his constituents. We can [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I worry more about the bush's and clinton's being groomed for future presidential campaigns. I hope chelsea goes back to her hedge fund job and stay's there. I think we are safe from a jeb bush run for the white house. In article <ea4fdfee-9797-4193-b9a6-d3fbbab81e35@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, > > > THere have been several times over the past 5 years when I have said the > > > thing Kennedy does right is the work he does for his constituents. We can [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > job and stay's there. I think we are safe from a jeb bush run for the > white house. Jeb would make a good president, but he can see the handwriting on the wall and will stay away. Yea, the clitnons and the kennadys should all take a long rest, get out of our faces please. -- > Jeb would make a good president, Judging by his track record in business, he could easily double or triple the national debt that his older brother has already doubled. >> Jeb would make a good president, > > Judging by his track record in business, he could easily double or > triple the national debt that his older brother has already doubled. You'd better explain that in more detail. dbu doesn't read, so he has no idea what you're talking about. On the other hand, he won't believe you anyway, so don't waste your time. In article <5890a9ea-a7d3-41cb-8cb0-7aac5cf87e86@z16g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, > > Jeb would make a good president, > > Judging by his track record in business, he could easily double or > triple the national debt that his older brother has already doubled. Explain. -- >> THere have been several times over the past 5 years when I have said >> the thing Kennedy does right is the work he does for his constituents. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Have they started grooming another kennedy to replace him? Any > speculation? Nothing yet... There are a couple Republicans running for the office. Kerry has announced this is his last term. > THere have been several times over the past 5 years when I have said the > thing Kennedy does right is the work he does for his constituents. We can [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > OK, Ted. Your only use is exhausted. Leave, please. Does the mother already have an American passport? > "Hachiroku ????" <Tru...@ae86.GTS> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > - Show quoted text - As always, Hachiroachie leaves out most of the causal details to make some rightwingnut point. On May 11, 8:14 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborea...@yahoo.com> wrote: > "Hachiroku ????" <Tru...@ae86.GTS> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > - Show quoted text - As always, Hachiroachie leaves out most of the causal details to make some rightwingnut point. ======================== Looks like getting an Indian tourist visa is a piece of cake for American citizens, unless you're a moron and wait till the last minute: https://www.indian-visa.com/guidelines?id=1 My guess is the daughter came up with this idea at the last minute, and she's trying to get her mother a passport really fast. I believe there are emergency procedures in place for things like sudden illness, but "duh I forgot" probably isn't going to get anyone a passport quickly. >> Does the mother already have an American passport?- Hide quoted text - >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > are emergency procedures in place for things like sudden illness, but > "duh I forgot" probably isn't going to get anyone a passport quickly. As usual, Carnak, you're wrong. This has been going on since last summer. The US Embassy won't grant a 67 year old woman a visa to visit her Granddaughters. No explanayion, just a flat "No". Three of her friends have already come and gone. I think the US thinks this woman will try to stay here and become a 'burden' on the US. But, we have Ted Kennedy singing in Spanish to illegals in LA and appearing in rallies for illegals screaming "Hasta la victoria!" That's ok, I guess. >> THere have been several times over the past 5 years when I have said >> the thing Kennedy does right is the work he does for his constituents. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Does the mother already have an American passport? They won't grant her a US passport. She has one from India. >>> THere have been several times over the past 5 years when I have said >>> the thing Kennedy does right is the work he does for his constituents. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > They won't grant her a US passport. She has one from India. Please read this article and let me know your reaction. You might even manage to notice a pattern which includes what your friend's mother is experiencing. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/17/nyregion/17musicologist.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1 &oref=slogin >>>> THere have been several times over the past 5 years when I have said >>>> the thing Kennedy does right is the work he does for his [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/17/nyregion/17musicologist.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1 &oref=slogin Must be profiling. She's not wearing a Burkah... > THere have been several times over the past 5 years when I have said the > thing Kennedy does right is the work he does for his constituents. We can [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > OK, Ted. Your only use is exhausted. Leave, please. I'm thinking maybe she wasn't complete in her description of the Kennedy office response. In my own experience, a junior staffer usually handles all of these types of complaints by generating a quick letter to the agency involved. That makes it a priority at the agency and the case gets some attention. I can't imagine any congressional office saying what is purported here. jor >> THere have been several times over the past 5 years when I have said >> the thing Kennedy does right is the work he does for his constituents. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > what is purported here. > jor I kind of paraphrased it (Now I have to get ready for JSB's attacks...) But basically, that was the response. My admiration for him stopped shortly after the bubbles ... > My admiration for him stopped shortly after the bubbles ... Understandable, but the problem Hach is describing has nothing to do with Kennedy. He will realize this after he read the article I provided for him. Or, maybe he won't. Or, he'll pretend not to. >> My admiration for him stopped shortly after the bubbles ... > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Or, maybe he won't. Or, he'll pretend not to. Why do you tell ME that? >>> My admiration for him stopped shortly after the bubbles ... >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> > Why do you tell ME that? He started early... http://japantalk.pe.kr/blog/thumbnail/1/8364161353.w500-h670.jpg >> Why do you tell ME that? > > He started early... > > http://japantalk.pe.kr/blog/thumbnail/1/8364161353.w500-h670.jpg Is that Joe's or Ted's? I guess it doesn't really matter ... >>> Why do you tell ME that? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Is that Joe's or Ted's? I guess it doesn't really matter ... Irrelevant. Hach posted the booze thing because he just realized that his original post was badly researched and he didn't have a leg to stand on. So, he resorts to insults. At least he did this quickly so the thread can die a quick death. >>>> Why do you tell ME that? >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > his original post was badly researched and he didn't have a leg to stand > on. So, he resorts to insults. <Yawn> Your usual response when you have nothing to offer. > At least he did this quickly so the thread can die a quick death. >>>>> Why do you tell ME that? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > <Yawn> Your usual response when you have nothing to offer. Nothing to offer? Did you read the NYT article, which provides a very likely explanation for the problem your friend is experiencing? >>> Irrelevant. Hach posted the booze thing because he just realized that >>> his original post was badly researched and he didn't have a leg to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Nothing to offer? Did you read the NYT article, which provides a very > likely explanation for the problem your friend is experiencing? Gee, I already knew all that. Like I said, she doesn't wear a Burkah, so Racial Profiling doesn't come into play, so she has to stay where she is. >>>> Irrelevant. Hach posted the booze thing because he just realized that >>>> his original post was badly researched and he didn't have a leg to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Gee, I already knew all that. Like I said, she doesn't wear a Burkah, so > Racial Profiling doesn't come into play, so she has to stay where she is. Prove that Kennedy could have helped your friend, when other senators are running into the same brick wall in terms of being able to get INS/DHS to change its ways. >> Gee, I already knew all that. Like I said, she doesn't wear a Burkah, so >> Racial Profiling doesn't come into play, so she has to stay where she [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > running into the same brick wall in terms of being able to get INS/DHS to > change its ways. Lieberman got my wife's mother's mother over here. it can be done. >>> Gee, I already knew all that. Like I said, she doesn't wear a Burkah, so >>> Racial Profiling doesn't come into play, so she has to stay where she [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > it can be done. When? >>>> Gee, I already knew all that. Like I said, she doesn't wear a Burkah, >>>> so Racial Profiling doesn't come into play, so she has to stay where [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > When? Couple years ago. >>>>> Gee, I already knew all that. Like I said, she doesn't wear a Burkah, >>>>> so Racial Profiling doesn't come into play, so she has to stay where [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Couple years ago. From where? >>>>>> Gee, I already knew all that. Like I said, she doesn't wear a >>>>>> Burkah, so Racial Profiling doesn't come into play, so she has to [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > From where? Thailand. >>>>>>> Gee, I already knew all that. Like I said, she doesn't wear a >>>>>>> Burkah, so Racial Profiling doesn't come into play, so she has to [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Thailand. Hmm. Big Muslim population there. Not. Why did she need help getting a visa? >>>>>> Lieberman got my wife's mother's mother over here. >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Why did she need help getting a visa? The usual BS. The formal excuse was they didn't want her coming here and staying here. I joked with Lieberman's aide that she wasn't Mexican... It didn't go over well... >>>>>>> Lieberman got my wife's mother's mother over here. >>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > The usual BS. The formal excuse was they didn't want her coming here and > staying here. It would be interesting to know the real story. > I joked with Lieberman's aide that she wasn't Mexican... > > It didn't go over well... The aide probably realized you weren't joking. >> The usual BS. The formal excuse was they didn't want her coming here >> and staying here. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > The aide probably realized you weren't joking. Interesting, because Lieberman is a 'turncoat' having turned his back on the Democrats and is doing quite well on his own, thank you! And he also takes the opposite stand from Kennedy on illegals. I believe this was right after he left the party, but I can't really remember. The staffer may have been a True Democrat. >>>>>>> Lieberman got my wife's mother's mother over here. >>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > It didn't go over well... Here's a reason why INS might be a little twitchy about people coming here from India: http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/05/13/india.bombs/index.html Have someone read it to you. >>>>>>>> Lieberman got my wife's mother's mother over here. >>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Have someone read it to you. I heard about that. The Rickshaw bombers. But, her sister and a few of her friends have already come and returned. A Mother is different, I suppose. >>>>>>>>> Lieberman got my wife's mother's mother over here. >>>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > But, her sister and a few of her friends have already come and returned. > A Mother is different, I suppose. Since you'll never look for any actual facts about your friend's case, you'll never know the truth. >> I heard about that. The Rickshaw bombers. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Since you'll never look for any actual facts about your friend's case, > you'll never know the truth. I'm not going to bother her too much about it, because she's pretty upset about the whole mess. If I have any GOOD news to bring her, then I'll bother her with it. Like Mary J? or is that irrelevant too? >>>> Why do you tell ME that? >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > At least he did this quickly so the thread can die a quick death. >> Is that Joe's or Ted's? I guess it doesn't really matter ... > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > At least he did this quickly so the thread can die a quick death. Bwahahaha! Look who's saying someone else is posting insults! WOW! Just like the post about drilling in the Gulf, you entirely miss the point of the original post. >>> Is that Joe's or Ted's? I guess it doesn't really matter ... >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Just like the post about drilling in the Gulf, you entirely miss the point > of the original post. Really? What was the point? Maybe you're right. Explain it again. But, be sure the point isn't 100% contradicted by the facts. Good luck doing that. >> Just like the post about drilling in the Gulf, you entirely miss the >> point of the original post. > > Really? What was the point? Maybe you're right. Explain it again. But, be > sure the point isn't 100% contradicted by the facts. Good luck doing that. About making it easier for foreign companies to drill in the Gulf, remember? >>> Just like the post about drilling in the Gulf, you entirely miss the >>> point of the original post. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > About making it easier for foreign companies to drill in the Gulf, > remember? That has nothing to do with the legislation whose name or number you refused to reveal, but which I found for you. >> About making it easier for foreign companies to drill in the Gulf, >> remember? >> > That has nothing to do with the legislation whose name or number you > refused to reveal, but which I found for you. Thanks! You finally actually DID something other than saying, "No, it's not." >>> About making it easier for foreign companies to drill in the Gulf, >>> remember? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Thanks! You finally actually DID something other than saying, "No, it's > not." I had no choice. Your premeditated and intentional lies had to be crushed. Too bad you're a pussy and can't admit you were wrong about the legislation, its purpose, and who supported expanded oil exploration (all those democrats who voted to PASS the legislation). Pussy. >>>> About making it easier for foreign companies to drill in the Gulf, >>>> remember? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Pussy. I said I would under duress. I'm waiting to see what the outcome of my original post will be. Beck hasn't said anything about it since. I hate to think of him as a poor source, since he has been reliable in the past. I will recind what I was going to post as a response to you: Get your head out of MoveOn.org. I guess not all sources can be relied on all the time. Of course, from my point of view I would have a tendency to rely on Beck more than MoveOn... So, the BBC and now Beck have left me hanging. One Liberal, one Conservative. Who the hell CAN you trust?!?!? >>>>> About making it easier for foreign companies to drill in the Gulf, >>>>> remember? [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > So, the BBC and now Beck have left me hanging. One Liberal, one > Conservative. Who the hell CAN you trust?!?!? I never look at anything from moveon. I gave you links to congressional records. You need no other sources. The records contain the text of the legislation, and the roll call which shows who voted for the legislation. It's absolutely clear that the majority of democrats voted FOR the legislation, not against it. This means the democrats wanted to EXPAND oil drilling, not work against it. You want the links again, or don't you trust congressional records??? >> I said I would under duress. >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > You want the links again, or don't you trust congressional records??? No, I read them. That's why I made the remark about Glenn Beck, and esp the BBC for misleading me. The BBC used to be about the most trustworthy news source in the known universe, but since they have developed their Liberal agenda I have noticed them lying almost as much as Limbaugh. Well, maybe not lying. Let's say, misspeaking or omitting... Funny thing is, the BBC will give you a story, and then chop it up to change the context. They gave a story one time about a $4M electric generating plant the US erected (um, at *OUR* expense, BTW) and how it was ruined on it's first refueling by the Iraqis putting in the wrong fuel. Two weeks later, in a show basically denouncing the US involvement in Iraq, they pointed to the failed power generation station. This time no mention at all of the Iraqis loading the wrong fuel, so if you missed the original story, it would have sounded like the US phuqued it up. nice, huh? >>> I said I would under duress. >>> [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > nice, huh? This is why I'll never stop asking which history books people read. People who read none always sound like fools unless they are very careful to say absolutely nothing. I appreciate you assistance with the demo. >> Two weeks later, in a show basically denouncing the US involvement in >> Iraq, they pointed to the failed power generation station. This time no [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > careful to say absolutely nothing. I appreciate you assistance with the > demo. I read history books when I was in High School and Co;;ege. I later found out my HS text, with the course being taught by a guy that really should have been teacing at Harvard or Yale (He liked teaching at a small New Englend prep school) was written by an author who would later be the biggest writer in the Revisionist school of History texts. Made me stop and think about the text we used then. Japaese fellow (or, an American of Japanese descent, I think). Can't remember his name, he's from the Boston area. Zinn, IIRC. Howard Zinn? DAMN! 35 years later I can remember his name! WTF can't I remember what I had for breakfast? http://howardzinn.org/default/ I guess I was wrong about the Japanese part, though... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Zinn >>> Two weeks later, in a show basically denouncing the US involvement in >>> Iraq, they pointed to the failed power generation station. This time no [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Zinn When did you graduate from college? >>>> Two weeks later, in a show basically denouncing the US involvement in >>>> Iraq, they pointed to the failed power generation station. This time [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > When did you graduate from college? I was 27. OH! you asked WHEN, not how old I was!!! 1988, and again in 1993... >>>>> Two weeks later, in a show basically denouncing the US involvement in >>>>> Iraq, they pointed to the failed power generation station. This time [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > 1988, and again in 1993... So, you read history in college, which means you've read none since 1993 or 1988. That's pathetic. You will now whine like an old woman and disagree. >> I was 27. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > That's pathetic. You will now whine like an old woman and disagree. I haven't exactly been in a concrete bunker with no connection to the outside world since 1993. Matter of fact, I expanded my horizins even more after I went back to college, reading the WSJ, listening to Limbaugh, NPR and the BBC. What does all this have to do with the price of gas? >>> I was 27. >>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > What does all this have to do with the price of gas? The price of gas is related to the past 20 years worth of history in the Middle East. But, you stopped reading history in 1993. The WSJ, Limbaugh, NPR and BBC are not substitutes for books. And, the word "history" involves relatively recent events as well as very old ones. >> I haven't exactly been in a concrete bunker with no connection to the >> outside world since 1993. Matter of fact, I expanded my horizins even [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > word "history" involves relatively recent events as well as very old > ones. Living it, and being aware of what is going on, is an *excellent* substitute for books. Maybe even better since, with all the sources I listed, I don't have to read a myriad of 'books' to get a different perspective. If you read one history text, you very often only get one writer's point of view. >>> I haven't exactly been in a concrete bunker with no connection to the >>> outside world since 1993. Matter of fact, I expanded my horizins even [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Living it, and being aware of what is going on, is an *excellent* > substitute for books. Living it? As a Dell technician, you have access to inside information about our government that isn't mentioned by news sources? Or, is "Dell technician" the Spanish term for "CIA analyst"? > Maybe even better since, with all the sources I listed, I don't have to > read a myriad of 'books' to get a different perspective. If you read one > history text, you very often only get one writer's point of view. Tell me which of your news sources told you anything you'd find in this book. You know Robert Gates because you're a genius. "From The Shadows", by Robert Gates Gates, director of the Central Intelligence Agency from 1991 to 1993, began in an entry level position and rose to the top. His insider's account of the Cold War, CIA operations and the unraveling of the Soviet Union is sprinkled with revelations including the fact that 1983 was the most dangerous year in U.S.-U.S.S.R. relations and that both the CIA and KGB sponsored countless "black operations" designed to embarrass and discredit the other side. Gates also reveals that he secretly met with KGB foreign operations chief Vladimir Kryuchkov on two separate occasions and how the CIA often acted in contempt of Congress. While none of this may come as a huge surprise, it never fails to shock when it's laid out in black and white by someone who was on the inside. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title. From Publishers Weekly Gates, director of the Central Intelligence Agency from 1991 to 1993, rose from entry level to the top. His insider's account of the Cold War, CIA operations and the unraveling of the Soviet Union is sprinkled with revelations. We learn that 1983 was "the most dangerous year in U.S.-U.S.S.R. relations"; that President Bush telephoned Boris Yeltsin in the Russian parliament building during the 1991 attempted coup; that for months the CIA predicted a coup attempt against Gorbachev-a warning that he ignored. Gates characterizes former CIA director William Casey as coming to the CIA "primarily to wage war against the Soviet Union." Both the KGB and the CIA, Gates divulges, sponsored countless "black operations"-forgeries, lies, dirty tricks and other covert propaganda activities designed to embarrass and discredit the other side. We also learn that during Gorbachev's 1987 visit to Washington, a collateral secret summit took place-Gates, then CIA deputy director, met with KGB foreign operations chief Vladimir Kryuchkov; they secretly met again in Moscow in 1989 when Kryuchkov was head of the KGB. Gates also candidly discusses how the agency's contemptuous treatment of Congress, evasive briefings and deceptions eroded public confidence. >>>> I haven't exactly been in a concrete bunker with no connection to the >>>> outside world since 1993. Matter of fact, I expanded my horizins even [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > about our government that isn't mentioned by news sources? Or, is "Dell > technician" the Spanish term for "CIA analyst"? WTF does being a "Dell Technician" have to do with it? The WSJ has a lot of excellent articles. You should try reading it sometime. It isn't just all about business and finance. >> Maybe even better since, with all the sources I listed, I don't have to >> read a myriad of 'books' to get a different perspective. If you read >> one history text, you very often only get one writer's point of view. > > Tell me which of your news sources told you anything you'd find in this > book. You know Robert Gates because you're a genius. I know Robert Gates because he was covered on NPR< the BBC and the WSJ. You can get all kinds of information from those sources. > "From The Shadows", by Robert Gates > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > discusses how the agency's contemptuous treatment of Congress, evasive > briefings and deceptions eroded public confidence. >>> Why do you tell ME that? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Is that Joe's or Ted's? I guess it doesn't really matter ... I thinks Ted drinks scotch. It's what made the family famous... >> My admiration for him stopped shortly after the bubbles ... > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Or, maybe he won't. Or, he'll pretend not to. I know the barriers to immigration to the US. Even when it comes to visits, it's tough. The point of the original post is that Kennedy, who is standing up for illegals and wants to give them rights and benefits (he was behind legislature that said, if you are using someone else's SSI number, and retire, you get part of the benefits from the real person's SSI!!!) won't do anything to help an older woman see her grandkids. The *ONLY* thing he had going for him was standing up for the people of the Commonwealth, and now he's not doing that. Time to go, Ted! >>> My admiration for him stopped shortly after the bubbles ... >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Time to go, Ted! Might be time for Kennedy to go for other reasons, but not because his office can't help the woman with the problem you described. The point of the NYT article, which you completely missed, is that the Department of Homeland Insecurity has turned our passport & visa system into a black hole from which nobody can get information sometimes. When I say "nobody", I mean not even senior congressmen who, after many years in office, should be able to make almost anything happen for a constituent. If you are really annoyed with the woman's problems, you will write to the appropriate politicians. But, it has nothing to do with Kennedy. >>>> My admiration for him stopped shortly after the bubbles ... >>> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > If you are really annoyed with the woman's problems, you will write to the > appropriate politicians. But, it has nothing to do with Kennedy. You've got to stop reading the NYT, it's making you delusional. Hachi made no reference at all to the NYT, at least not one that I can see. All I saw was a personal anecdotal story about the adventures of a personal friend in dealing with Kennedy's office. What really has me stumped is, why do you feel a need to discuss with me why Hachi has lost his admiration for Kennedy. I have not admired Kennedy for going on two decades, maybe three. It's been so many years, I've lost count. >>>>> My admiration for him stopped shortly after the bubbles ... >>>> [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > was a personal anecdotal story about the adventures of a personal friend > in dealing with Kennedy's office. Hach did *NOT* make reference to the article. I provided the article to illustrate what is apparently a pattern with our customs & immigration department. That is the problem. Not the inability of Kennedy's office to assist with the problem. >>>>>> My admiration for him stopped shortly after the bubbles ... >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > department. That is the problem. Not the inability of Kennedy's office to > assist with the problem. Here's the deal, YOU made reference to a NYT article and specifically stated that I missed the point of it, and by so doing you inferred that Hachi posted it. I like to call it connecting the dots, which you repeately fail to do or even understand. You might have read an obscure NYT article, but it has nothing to do with the price of rice in China or what I may or may not have read. You need to learn how to phrase what you say, because what you said and the way you said it points to Hachi as providing a link, and my failure to read the link he failed to provide, and to make matters even worse, you failed to provide the link to your own reference point, then turned around and said that you did provide it. To make things even worse (for you) is that Hachi gave a personal anecdotal story aobut a person that sought to circumvent immigration red tape by appealing to Kennedy, who supports free and open borders. Kennedy said he can't help a person that wants to get through the border crossing red tape, yet Kennedy purports to think there should be no tape of any color. Hachi feels that Kennedy is speaking out of both sides of his mouth -- one side because it is politically expedient and the other side because it is a political reality. None of this has anything to do with the NYT story that you conveniently failed to provide, but made reference to. As a practical matter, I don't care very much what the NYT has to say on pretty much anything. And, you should be talking about sh.t that Hachi missed with Hachi, not me. I don't talk to Hachi about stuff you miss, I talk to you. >>>>>>> My admiration for him stopped shortly after the bubbles ... >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > And, you should be talking about sh.t that Hachi missed with Hachi, not > me. I don't talk to Hachi about stuff you miss, I talk to you. I never said you missed the point of the article. If you disagree, copy my words which prove your point, and paste them into your next message. > I never said you missed the point of the article. If you disagree, copy my > words which prove your point, and paste them into your next message. <quote> Might be time for Kennedy to go for other reasons, but not because his >>>> office can't help the woman with the problem you described. The point >>>> of the NYT article, which you completely missed, is that the Department >>>> of Homeland Insecurity has turned our passport & visa system into a >>>> black hole from which nobody can get information sometimes. When </quote> You said that to me. >> I never said you missed the point of the article. If you disagree, copy >> my words which prove your point, and paste them into your next message. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > You said that to me. No, you moron. I said it to Hach. Learn to use your news reader. >> I never said you missed the point of the article. If you disagree, copy >> my words which prove your point, and paste them into your next message. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > You said that to me. No, you moron. I said it to Hach. Learn to use your news reader. > To make things even worse (for you) is that Hachi gave a personal > anecdotal story aobut a person that sought to circumvent immigration red [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > the NYT story that you conveniently failed to provide, but made reference > to. America still lags other developed nations in reading comprehension skills, and you are demonstrating that fact magnificently right now. You keep harping about Kennedy, just like Hach. But, his story has absolutely NOTHING to do with Kennedy. The problem is that the department of homeland insecurity has turned itself into a sealed crypt when it comes to information. The woman in Hach's story will probably never find out why she can't get a passport, and that has nothing to do with Kennedy. The woman in the NYT article can't get information about her work visa. Her senator was unable to get any information for her because DHS wouldn't release it. > As a practical matter, I don't care very much what the NYT has to say on > pretty much anything. You don't care very much about ANY news source whose stories are more than a paragraph or a minute long. Don't you remember all the times I've asked you to name your favorite news sources and you can't name any? Furthermore, this is another instance where you cannot point out anything in the NYT article which you feel is slanted. > > To make things even worse (for you) is that Hachi gave a personal > > anecdotal story aobut a person that sought to circumvent immigration red [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Furthermore, this is another instance where you cannot point out anything in > the NYT article which you feel is slanted. joe is playing his little games again. Remember what I said, joe don't like to lose and he hates being ignored. Bottom line, beat up on him then ignore him. -- >> > To make things even worse (for you) is that Hachi gave a personal >> > anecdotal story aobut a person that sought to circumvent immigration red [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > >Bottom line, beat up on him then ignore him. His butt boy isn't here, so he is off his rocker.... SignatureScott in Florida > >> > To make things even worse (for you) is that Hachi gave a personal > >> > anecdotal story aobut a person that sought to circumvent immigration red [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > His butt boy isn't here, so he is off his rocker.... I have a hunch waffle morphed into another cyber person, LOL. -- >> >> > To make things even worse (for you) is that Hachi gave a personal >> >> > anecdotal story aobut a person that sought to circumvent immigration red [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > >I have a hunch waffle morphed into another cyber person, LOL. He can run, but he can't hide... SignatureScott in Florida > America still lags other developed nations in reading comprehension > skills, PKB as far as I can see... >> America still lags other developed nations in reading comprehension >> skills, > > PKB as far as I can see... You wanna be the poster boy alongside Shmuckland? >>> America still lags other developed nations in reading comprehension >>> skills, >> >> PKB as far as I can see... > > You wanna be the poster boy alongside Shmuckland? I was reading in Kindergarten. Took a speed-reading course in 9th grade. Get to the point. You and Smirnoff point to these long-winded dissertations that take 10,000 words to say what could be said in a short paragraph. It's like slogging through Noam Chomsky to find out the Earth is round. >>>> America still lags other developed nations in reading comprehension >>>> skills, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > It's like slogging through Noam Chomsky to find out the Earth is round. Confess to the lies you posted in the message which began this thread. Confess that you lied and you hoped nobody would call you on it. >>>>> America still lags other developed nations in reading comprehension >>>>> skills, [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Confess to the lies you posted in the message which began this thread. > Confess that you lied and you hoped nobody would call you on it. How did I lie in this post? And, I never lie. I *MIGHT* admit under duress that I was misled in the other post about drilling for oil, but I never make it an intention to lie. >>>>>> America still lags other developed nations in reading comprehension >>>>>> skills, [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > other post about drilling for oil, but I never make it an intention to > lie. Both were lies. You may not think you had intent, but failure to investigate the facts is intentional. Defending your negligence is intentional. Prove that Kennedy could've helped your friend, but didn't. >> And, I never lie. I *MIGHT* admit under duress that I was misled in the >> other post about drilling for oil, but I never make it an intention to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Prove that Kennedy could've helped your friend, but didn't. Gee, I guess I can't, huh? Prove that man went to the moon. "America still lags other developed nations in reading comprehension skills, " That's because they let liberals run the schools. >> To make things even worse (for you) is that Hachi gave a personal >> anecdotal story aobut a person that sought to circumvent immigration red [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Furthermore, this is another instance where you cannot point out anything > in the NYT article which you feel is slanted. > "America still lags other developed nations in reading comprehension > skills, " > > That's because they let liberals run the schools. Who told you to say that? An insider, but they can put condoms on cucumbers! They just need more money and they can fix everything. How much, always more. >> "America still lags other developed nations in reading comprehension >> skills, " >> >> That's because they let liberals run the schools. > > Who told you to say that? > An insider, but they can put condoms on cucumbers! In my duaghter's school, it was a banana. She was 8 (4th grade) I didn't hear about it until 3 years later, and we had moved from that district. Good thing. > They just need more money and they can fix everything. How much, always > more. > ...They just need more money and they can fix everything. How much, always > more. Jim Quinn always says that liberals' solutions to everything is always a lot more of whatever it is that they have done that's not working. Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') >> ...They just need more money and they can fix everything. How much, always >> more. > > Jim Quinn always says that liberals' solutions to everything is always a > lot more of whatever it is that they have done that's not working. Learning from mistakes is not a strong point. They wanted to put the Clinrons back in the White House... >>> ...They just need more money and they can fix everything. How much, >>> always [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Learning from mistakes is not a strong point. They wanted to put the > Clinrons back in the White House... Here in Chicago they're just not getting it, either. Chicago has had GUN CONTROL since 1982 and yet we have an awful lot of gun crime going on. The mayor's response is, of course, that we need MORE gun control. Asinine. (With the price of gas going up, shouldn't that be asiten by now? Elevenis, anyone?) Charles the Curmudgeon. With apologies to Victor Borge. > "America still lags other developed nations in reading comprehension > skills, " > > That's because they let liberals run the schools. Damn straight. I watched schools go flush down the drain just in the 12 years I was in the public school system. I started in a Chicago public school, and learned quite well by the end of 4th grade how to read, write and do most of the basic math. Now most Chicago schoolkids can't read by the end of 12th grade. Thanks to the NEA and their refusal to allow any sort of rating of teacher performance. What does NEA actually stand for? National Educational a.sholes? On top of that I 'skipped' most of a generation before I finished my college degree. The kids I went to college with didn't know some of the stuff I knew from high school. And I saw some of my dad's school books. When I finished high school, I was 1-2 years behind where he was when he graduated. Some of the stuff he learned in high school I wasn't exposed to until Junior College. But he did graduate from the same high school Elliot Ness did. Charles the Curmudgeon . >> As a practical matter, I don't care very much what the NYT has to say on >> pretty much anything. > > You don't care very much about ANY news source whose stories are more than > a paragraph or a minute long. Nope. Sure don't. Get to the point. If I want to read a novel I'll buy a Harry Potter book. >>> As a practical matter, I don't care very much what the NYT has to say on >>> pretty much anything. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Nope. Sure don't. Get to the point. If I want to read a novel I'll buy a > Harry Potter book. The only "point" at the moment is that you need to confess to your hideous mistake - the lies in your original message. The legislation you were talking about does the exact opposite of what you claimed. And, democrats keeping us from increasing oil exploration in the Gulf - lies, also. Do you understand how you lied, and how Glenn Beck helped you lie? I looked up the legislation you lied about. Did you find that in this mess of unnecessary messages, or do you need me to post the information about the legislation yet again? > Do you understand how you lied, and how Glenn Beck helped you lie? I > looked up the legislation you lied about. Did you find that in this mess > of unnecessary messages, or do you need me to post the information about > the legislation yet again? Congratulations. You finally actually *DID* something! You are to be commended. I'll ask Kennedy to draw up the paperwork. > To make things even worse (for you) is that Hachi gave a personal > anecdotal story aobut a person that sought to circumvent immigration red [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > of any color. Hachi feels that Kennedy is speaking out of both sides of > his mouth Not the first time, but like I have been saying, before he would help his constituents. In this particular case he dropped the ball. It;s the only use Kennedy has, as far as I can see, and now that use is gone. Time for Kennedy to go. >> To make things even worse (for you) is that Hachi gave a personal >> anecdotal story aobut a person that sought to circumvent immigration red [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > It;s the only use Kennedy has, as far as I can see, and now that use is > gone. Time for Kennedy to go. Prove that Kennedy could've gotten past the wall of silence put up by DHS, when other senior senators, including republicans, are having a devil of a time doing the same thing. >> Not the first time, but like I have been saying, before he would help >> his constituents. In this particular case he dropped the ball. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > DHS, when other senior senators, including republicans, are having a > devil of a time doing the same thing. Well, now, how the *HELL* do I do that? But he's Kennedy! He can walk on water, can't he? He already proved that at Chappaquiddick. >>> Not the first time, but like I have been saying, before he would help >>> his constituents. In this particular case he dropped the ball. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Well, now, how the *HELL* do I do that? You can't, which is why you never should've made the claim to begin with. >> You've got to stop reading the NYT, it's making you delusional. Hachi >> made no reference at all to the NYT, at least not one that I can see. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > department. That is the problem. Not the inability of Kennedy's office > to assist with the problem. Kennedy's office used to take care of problems like this one with vigor. I know all about Homeland Security. They can't go after Burkahs anymore because of 'profiling' issues, so they pick on a poor old Indian woman? > Kennedy's office used to take care of problems like this one with vigor... You mis-spelled 'vigah'. Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') >> Kennedy's office used to take care of problems like this one with >> vigor... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > address with the letter 'x') I'm from Western Mass where we speak the Queen's English. > What really has me stumped is, why do you feel a need to discuss with me > why Hachi has lost his admiration for Kennedy. I have not admired > Kennedy for going on two decades, maybe three. It's been so many years, > I've lost count. But you'll notice 'admiration' in quotes. It's the *ONLY* thng the guy had going for him, and now he even drops that ball. Politically, it was time for Teddy to go a long time ago. |
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