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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / May 2008Off-Topic: Kennedy has a malignant tumor!
I thought you guys would be interested in this, since there's a big thread going on regarding his health, here. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24728667/ That's quite serious. Natalie > I thought you guys would be interested in this, since there's a big > thread going on regarding his health, here. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Natalie That's terrible. I ain't making no jokes... The parietal lobes can be divided into two functional regions. One involves sensation and perception and the other is concerned with integrating sensory input, primarily with the visual system. The first function integrates sensory information to form a single perception (cognition). The second function constructs a spatial coordinate system to represent the world around us. Individuals with damage to the parietal lobes often show striking deficits, such as abnormalities in body image and spatial relations (Kandel, Schwartz & Jessel, 1991). Damage to the left parietal lobe can result in what is called "Gerstmann's Syndrome." It includes right-left confusion, difficulty with writing (agraphia) and difficulty with mathematics (acalculia). It can also produce disorders of language (aphasia) and the inability to perceive objects normally (agnosia). http://www.neuroskills.com/tbi/bparieta.shtml > I thought you guys would be interested in this, since there's a big > thread going on regarding his health, here. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Natalie Yes, my aunt just died of that two weeks ago. I had to go to Canada for the funeral. > > I thought you guys would be interested in this, since there's a big > > thread going on regarding his health, here. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Yes, my aunt just died of that two weeks ago. I had to go to Canada > for the funeral. Anybody know what causes brain tumors? Head injury maybe, I don't know but would like to. -- >> > I thought you guys would be interested in this, since there's a big >> > thread going on regarding his health, here. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Anybody know what causes brain tumors? Head injury maybe, I don't know > but would like to. You're kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding. > >> > I thought you guys would be interested in this, since there's a big > >> > thread going on regarding his health, here. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > You're kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding. No I'm not. Are you a doctor too? -- >> >> > I thought you guys would be interested in this, since there's a big >> >> > thread going on regarding his health, here. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > No I'm not. Are you a doctor too? My disbelief referred to the fact that you were too lazy or stupid to type "what causes brain tumors" into a google search box, and look at any of the first dozen results. That is pathetic. > >> >> > I thought you guys would be interested in this, since there's a big > >> >> > thread going on regarding his health, here. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > That is pathetic. Hah hah, joe can't answer the question..... , again. Duhhhhhahh, don't you think I've done that before, of course I have, two years ago when my cousin died of a brain tumor, but I got no definitive answer. So I ask the question again hoping someone may have insight, perhaps more than I've been able to find on the internet and ..... and in books joe, books, yes. But what to my disbelief after asking an honest question, I get a smart assed answer from a twit, a joe twit to be exact. From now on, your name will be joe twit. -- >> >> >> > I thought you guys would be interested in this, since there's a >> >> >> > big [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > From now on, your name will be joe twit. You are correct. I can't answer the question. Nobody can definitively answer the question yet. If someone knew exactly what caused all brain tumors, they'd be famous and nobody would have brain tumors. Now, go read all the possible theories, and don't expect anyone in a newsgroup to do your research for you. > >> >> >> > I thought you guys would be interested in this, since there's a > >> >> >> > big [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > Now, go read all the possible theories, and don't expect anyone in a > newsgroup to do your research for you. I've already read them joe twit. Now go about your smoke and mirror tap dancing. -- >> >> >> >> > I thought you guys would be interested in this, since there's >> >> >> >> > a [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > I've already read them joe twit. Now go about your smoke and mirror tap > dancing. Then why did you ask, you f.cking idiot? > >> >> >> >> > I thought you guys would be interested in this, since there's > >> >> >> >> > a [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > Then why did you ask, you f.cking idiot? read my other post then get another newsreader and web server. -- >Then why did you ask, you f.cking idiot? Backed into another corner, joe twit?  SignatureScott in Florida "dbu" , >> > I thought you guys would be interested in this, since there's a big >> > thread going on regarding his health, here. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Anybody know what causes brain tumors? Head injury maybe, I don't know > but would like to. As far as I know, it's like any other cancer; having a family history of cancer is a big factor with any of them. I think Ted's son had bone cancer, and had a leg removed. Natalie > "dbu" , > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Natalie What about head injury? Could that have been a factor for Kennedy? I'm thinking of his car crash or airplane accident. I realize that cells divide and sometimes they get going too fast and deform into cancer, but something has to trigger it and of course a family history is a factor for some cancer, but not all. -- "dbu" >> >> > I thought you guys would be interested in this, since there's a big >> >> > thread going on regarding his health, here. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > something has to trigger it and of course a family history is a factor > for some cancer, but not all. I haven't heard of any readily-explainable cancers, except cervical and lung. But don't take my word as gospel. Natalie > "dbu" > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Natalie Then why did you ask? There are no doctors or cancer researchers in this newsgroup that I'm aware of. "JoeSpareBedroom" <.. > "Wickeddoll®" ... >> "dbu" [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > Then why did you ask? There are no doctors or cancer researchers in this > newsgroup that I'm aware of. What? I didn't ask anything. Natalie > > "dbu" > > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > Then why did you ask? There are no doctors or cancer researchers in this > newsgroup that I'm aware of. You must be referring to me. Because I always look for new direction. There might be people reading this that do have an insight or new information that I've not come upon. it's always good to discuss this subject with other people. Perhaps not the proper NG for it, but what the hell, one never knows what will turn up. As for you, joe twit you should stick to your main subject. -- >> > "dbu" >> > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > As for you, joe twit you should stick to your main subject. You asked because YOU DO NOT READ. Here's the first line from the first search result: "There are two types of brain tumors: primary brain tumors that originate in the brain and metastatic (secondary) brain tumors that originate from cancer cells that have migrated from other parts of the body." Here is what you managed to get through: "There ar..." Remember your fake eye problem? > >> > "dbu" > >> > [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > the brain and metastatic (secondary) brain tumors that originate from cancer > cells that have migrated from other parts of the body." I know all that already. You failed to answer my basic question or give any help joe twit. If or when you get a cancer you will read up on it and learn as much as you can as I have six years ago. I can recommend a book for you if the need ever arises. Until then hope that it doesn't. -- >> > As for you, joe twit you should stick to your main subject. >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > You failed to answer my basic question or give any help joe twit. You are a horrible dancer, but dancing is the only way you ever end a discussion around here. You might watch how Hach does it. He uses a shovel. Not any easier, but less embarrassing. > >> > As for you, joe twit you should stick to your main subject. > >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > discussion around here. You might watch how Hach does it. He uses a shovel. > Not any easier, but less embarrassing. whatever -- > "dbu" > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > I haven't heard of any readily-explainable cancers, except cervical and > lung. Breast cancer, due to H(R)T is one. Also endometrial/uterine, but I don't think estrogen-only therapy is prescribed any longer if a uterus is present. Cathy But don't take my word as gospel. > Natalie "Cathy F." ... > "Wickeddoll®"... >> "dbu" [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Cathy HRT-related cancer is not nearly as relevant now, as in the past. The dosage is so light it's ineffectual. HRT is still recommended, but because of media hype over *old* HRT, women are afraid to use it. What do I mean by that? Study: 5,000 women are placed on HRT; 5,000 are placed on a placebo. One in 3 of the women get cancer on HRT. One in 3.5 get it with the placebo. The media reports the 1:3, but not that the placebo is nearly exactly the same. Natalie > "Cathy F." ... >> [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > The media reports the 1:3, but not that the placebo is nearly exactly the > same. Is this from the WHI study? I read the reports back when the results were released - both after the combo estrogen/progest. study was halted & then when the estrogen-only arm of the study was halted - when it became apparent that the neg. effects were outweighing the positive ones. There was a small, but definite, increase of risk assoc. with HRT for both breast cancer & various heart probs. Cathy Catyhy > Natalie "Cathy F." ... > "Wickeddoll®" >>>> [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > Cathy As with any medication, you have to weigh the risks against the benefits. The studies I'm citing are from the last few years. There are *so* many other things providers have to consider when prescribing any drug; HRT has just gotten a bad rap because of the blunders of early hormone use in the old days. They thought you needed a butt-load of hormones, but now know you only need a tiny amount for most women. Natalie > "Cathy F." ... >> [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] > butt-load of hormones, but now know you only need a tiny amount for most > women. What about the aspect of the "It's good for you" baloney? So many doctors, pre-WHI study reports, actively promoted it - for rest of life use, no less! Arghhh. Even short-term use (2-5 years) was proven to have risk factors (over placebo) - for heart problems. IMO, unless quality of life is greatly affected, better to not take it - why knowlingly increase one's risk if the HT is not truly needed? If quality of life is so awful that the risk is worth it to any particular woman, that's another ball game. Cathy > Natalie "Cathy F." >>> "Wickeddoll®" >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] > > Cathy You've pretty much reiterated what I said. You have to look at the *entire* picture before prescribing any drug or hormone. Benefit vs. risk. You also have to realize that not only is that "everyone needs hormone replacement" stuff bogus, it's also OLD. Doctors don't just knee-jerk to that anymore, but some women actually need them for a variety of reasons. Also, in those "studies" there are often so many mitigating factors (genetics, smoking history, lifestyle) that go into it, that you can't just label them all that more dangerous. Natalie > "dbu" > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Natalie I wish they could find a magic bullet to cure all cancer. -- "dbu" > "Wickeddoll®" >> >> >> > I thought you guys would be interested in this, since there's a [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > I wish they could find a magic bullet to cure all cancer. Amen! Natalie >> "dbu" >> [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > I wish they could find a magic bullet to cure all cancer. Well, don't we all. Cathy > I wish they could find a magic bullet to cure all cancer. If they did then we would have people complaining about over-population. Chances are good we'd have forced abortions such as China does, there would be a prevalence of old people being coerced into suicides, planned wars to cull populations, and huge food/water rationings. >> I wish they could find a magic bullet to cure all cancer. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > into suicides, planned wars to cull populations, and huge food/water > rationings. My sister died from primary liver cancer several months ago; it eventually went to her brain. She had none of the indicators for her type of cancer - none at all, & yet... She loved life, was 49 - didn't even get to turn 50. :-( If there had been a cure for her (there are presently no therapies specifically targeted for primary liver cancer - patients use chemo drugs which are used for other types of cancer) - & others who will not survive cancer, believe me, I'd hugely welcome it. And I bet virtually anyone who's been closely affected by this disease would say the same. Cathy > My sister died from primary liver cancer several months ago My condolences to you and your family. Now it is your turn JoeSpareBedroom. Try to learn how to be human. >> My sister died from primary liver cancer several months ago > > My condolences to you and your family. Thank you; she was my only sibling & my very best friend. Not only was her death so very unfair to her, it wasn't fair to all who loved her. Cathy > Now it is your turn JoeSpareBedroom. Try to learn how to be human. "Cathy F." > "badgolferman" , wrote: >>> I wish they could find a magic bullet to cure all cancer. >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Cathy (((Cathy))) Natalie > "Cathy F." >> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Natalie Thanks, Natalie. This has been a rotten several months. My sister died in November - that's the overwhelming bit, my father died 5 months later - although that was a whole different scenario - he was 90, in poor health for several years, & was truly ready for death. And on the work front I have a bunch of students this year who are very difficult (although another bunch of them are easy, pleasant kids), not to mention the schedule in which there are over 100 instances of pull-outs for mandated student services per 6-day rotation schedule. The last of which makes me feel like a traffic cop instead of a teacher! Cathy > Thanks, Natalie. This has been a rotten several months. My sister died > in November - that's the overwhelming bit, my father died 5 months later - [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Cathy 100 pullouts??? Per how many students? >> Thanks, Natalie. This has been a rotten several months. My sister died >> in November - that's the overwhelming bit, my father died 5 months [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > 100 pullouts??? Per how many students? Presently 22 students, but at one point it was 24, with ~130 pull-outs. OTOH, I am the designated Resource teacher for my grade level this year (not that I teach Resource - I'm not a Special Ed. tchr., but that I have the Resource kids in my class), so my class would most likely have the most support services mandated by their IEPs. Which is a double-edged sword. They need the services, but then - when there are so many of them - the logistics involved with when to teach what in the classroom... Cathy >>> Thanks, Natalie. This has been a rotten several months. My sister died >>> in November - that's the overwhelming bit, my father died 5 months [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Cathy Maybe you can look forward to this. I missed this reunion with my biology teacher (1967 & 1970, regular bio and AP bio). This teacher was worshipped. What a teacher. http://www.bccedfoundation.org/alumni/fullerton.html >>>> Thanks, Natalie. This has been a rotten several months. My sister >>>> died in November - that's the overwhelming bit, my father died 5 months [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> sword. They need the services, but then - when there are so many of >> them - the logistics involved with when to teach what in the classroom... Clarification - those pull-outs don't involve all of the students: some receive no support services (no IEP, & no other services such as Title I Rdg. or Math, Speech, OT, PT, etc. needed), while others receive one, a couple, or many. > Maybe you can look forward to this. I missed this reunion with my biology > teacher (1967 & 1970, regular bio and AP bio). This teacher was > worshipped. What a teacher. > > http://www.bccedfoundation.org/alumni/fullerton.html That's cool! :-) Sometimes I don't find out till later - a few months, or even years - a positive impact. It may be via a student, but more often a parent or otrher rleative who tells me how a child was insprired to delve farther into this or that, after something we did in class. One child, for ex., after I taught a Soc. St. unit on France, became so motivated & interested in the whole thing that he asked his parents if he could take French at the local community college "College for Kids". Cathy > "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> Maybe you can look forward to this. I missed this reunion with my biology >> teacher (1967 & 1970, regular bio and AP bio). This teacher was [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > positive impact. It may be via a student, but more often a parent or > otrher rleative who tells me how a child was insprired Arghhh - can one tell I didn't use spell-check to clean up my lack of typing skills??! (I can spell, but I can't type!) ;-) >>>>> Thanks, Natalie. This has been a rotten several months. My sister >>>>> died in November - that's the overwhelming bit, my father died 5 [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > Cathy Sometimes, it gets out of hand. My son started college as a physics major. Then, he found some fossils at a nearby gorge, and decided to take a geology course. Now he's all mixed up. :-) He wants to major in everything. "Cathy F." ... > "Wickeddoll®" >>> "badgolferman" [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Cathy I've said it before, I'll say it again - God bless teachers! Natalie > "Cathy F." ... >> Thanks, Natalie. This has been a rotten several months. My sister died [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Natalie We need more parents like you!!! :-) In reality, most of the parents in the district in which I teach are supportive - incl. the ones of the difficult students (behavior-wise) I have this year. Thank goodness. But still, I know there are parents who work against their kids' teachers instead of with them. Cathy "Cathy F." > "Wickeddoll®" >>> Thanks, Natalie. This has been a rotten several months. My sister died [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Cathy Oh, don't get me started on people who think their brats are "little angels." Mine never have been, and I never pretended otherwise! Natalie > "Cathy F." >> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Oh, don't get me started on people who think their brats are "little > angels." Moi non plus! Arghhh. > Mine never have been, and I never pretended otherwise! > > Natalie Realism definitely helps! Cathy > > "Cathy F." > >> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Cathy Stress level high for Cathy. You should try to remain calm for your own health, I know it's not that easy when going though tough times as you are. I've found walking, (or jogging if you are so inclined), for long distance relieves stress. -- >> > "Cathy F." >> >> [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > are. I've found walking, (or jogging if you are so inclined), for long > distance relieves stress. Tell me about it - Stress City this year. I do take walks. And my cats help (purrr... purrr...), as does watching the birds at the feeder, watching the squirrels playing, reading fiction for R&R, etc. Cathy >>>> "Cathy F." >>>>> "badgolferman" [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > Cathy So, does reading this ng add to or relieve - or is neutral? :) Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') > So, does reading this ng add to or relieve - or is neutral? :) (re: stress) Hmmmm.... ;-) A little of each of the three, depending on the threads or individual posts. Cathy > "dbu" > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Natalie My daughter had one that is explainable - called Ewing's sarcoma (actually a variation of it called PNET). The mechanism is that the ends of the protein strings on chromosomes 11 and 22 swap positions (a random spontaneous mutation - the mutation is statistically predictable by the laws of thermodynamics - most likely to happen during puberty when lots of changes are going on in the body). The mutation is replicated in daughter cells, creating the tumor. (To save you the trouble of asking, though the survival rate of that particular childhood disease is only about 35%, my daughter is a survivor of 9 years, happily married and mother of a wonderful son.) Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') >> "dbu" >> [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > particular childhood disease is only about 35%, my daughter is a survivor > of 9 years, happily married and mother of a wonderful son.) It's great to hear of survival cases, esp. when it's against the odds. I hope she remains in remission & is actually cured. Cathy > Bill Putney > (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address > with the letter 'x') >>> I haven't heard of any readily-explainable cancers, except cervical and >>> lung. But don't take my word as gospel. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Cathy God bless you! Yeah - she's amazing. On most cancers, they say you can start breathing easier after 5 years of clear scans. With this particular one, (based on the statistics) they don't start relaxing until 10 years. We are very blessed! Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') "Bill Putney" ... >> "dbu" >> [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > Bill Putney Wow, that's amazing! God continue to be with her! Natalie > "Bill Putney" ... >>> I haven't heard of any readily-explainable cancers, except cervical and >>> lung. But don't take my word as gospel. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Natalie Thanks, Natalie! Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') > > "dbu" > > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > address with the letter 'x') Thanks Bill. Great news about your daughter. There is always hope. -- Anybody know what causes brain tumors? Head injury maybe, I don't know but would like to. -- ------------------ Ok you asked..but don't get pissed off at the answer. One of the things that causes brain tumors is electromagnetic fields from things like cell phones, computers and cordless phones .. My mother died from neuroblastoma. Diagnosed one month and six months later ...gone. She spent a great deal of life hunched over a sewing machine as a garment worker. I researched that particular field of endeavor and found a higher incidence of brain cancer among those workers. They spend a great deal of time with their heads inside of the magnetic field of the sewing machine. She was in her 70's when she died. In my estimation people will be dying alot younger (than her) with the way 'technology' is being embraced by humankind. I only have a (free) 911 cell phone and use a webtv for 90% of my computing. I have no cordless phones in my home nor do I have sattelite television only cable. No wireless internet either.. But long b4 my mom was diagnosed I avoided cell phones and other EMF producing items because they gave me headaches.. A recent study that was quoted in this morning's news said that expectant mothers who use cell phones have a 57% higher chance of having a child with behavioral problems.. When I said this type of stuff on discussion boards 3 years ago they told me to get my tin foil hat...I don't hear that very much any more.. CP Are you a motorola lab rat..? > ...A recent study that was quoted in this morning's news said that > expectant mothers who use cell phones have a 57% higher chance of having > a child with behavioral problems... I always take that kind of statistic with a grain of salt. The saying "Correlation does not necessarily mean causation" comes to mind. For example: It is very possible that (statistically speaking) mothers who do not have cell phones live a more low key life-style in general and/or in a slower moving (possibly rural) culture, more stay-at-home moms, whatever, and that kids growing up in the slower-paced latch-key environment are going to have less behavioral problems. Anyway - I think my explanation makes more sense than effects of radio waves. Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') "I always take that kind of statistic with a grain of salt. The saying "Correlation does not necessarily mean causation" comes to mind. For example: It is very possible that (statistically speaking) mothers who do not have cell phones live a more low key life-style in general and/or in a slower moving (possibly rural) culture, more stay-at-home moms, whatever, and that kids growing up in the slower-paced latch-key environment are going to have less behavioral problems. Anyway - I think my explanation makes more sense than effects of radio waves. " Bill Putney ---------------------- What exactly was your explanation ...? Are you saying one size fits all. Because, that's not what I said.. I said ...'ONE' of the causes of .... not the cause of ALL... There was also another recent study that said cell phone users who use their phones heavily before bed don't sleep as deeply as those who don't. I also made reference to my research on people who shared my mom's occupation.. I didn't hear your response to that.??? "Mothers who do not have cell phones live a more low key life style" ..? Is that what you said..? I'd say the ones who can't afford cell phones live a more hectic and disrupted life style... Its seems to me the ones who can afford cell phones live a better more settled and affluent life style than those who can't afford them. And, in my experience, if a young woman can afford a cell phone in this day and age, she's getting one... You sound smug so I think anything I say will be, in your opinion, inferior to what you think... How about this... Get yourself a sattleite dish and install it as close to the head of your bed as you possibly can, only talk on your cell phone every opportunity you can (especailly b4 bed) and try to do it while you're on the computer as well. If you can swing it, move your family to a home that is very close to high tension power lines and if possible also close to a cell phone tower.. Please... It (hopefully) will limit the amount of time you have to be smug on this earth... > "I always take that kind of statistic with a grain of salt. The saying > "Correlation does not necessarily mean causation" comes to mind. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Are you saying one size fits all... Do you know what the word "statistically" means? Apparently not, because I qualified what I said with that word. > Because, that's not what I said.. I > said ...'ONE' of the causes of .... not the cause of ALL... You're saying that the radio waves are creating the problem. I'm saying that that is not a necessarily valid conclusion. I'm saying that lifestyles of people who tend to own them compared to those who don't may (note that word) explain the different -again - SATISTICALLY speaking. It has as much validity as your theory. > There was also another recent study that said cell phone users who use > their phones heavily before bed don't sleep as deeply as those who > don't. It doesn't take much imagination to figure an alternative explanation for that one out either. Do you think maybe people who are using their cell phones heavily before bed are keeping their minds keyed up with certain things - possibly troubles of the day or of the one to come, whereas people who don't have the need to be on the phone that late are maybe in a more relaxed state? Just a suggestion, with as much validity, maybe more, than yours of radio wave effects. > I also made reference to my research on people who shared my mom's > occupation.. I didn't hear your response to that.??? Why would I be required to give one. I don't have one. Your mother is a statistic of one. We cannot say whether her work was a cause or not. I'm not saying it wasn't, but there's no conclusion to be drawn one way or another. > "Mothers who do not have cell phones live a more low key life style" > ..? Is that what you said..? No. You snipped the "...(statistically speaking)..." which takes it out of the "one size fits all" context you are trying to dishonestly force into what I said. > I'd say the ones who can't afford cell phones live a more hectic and > disrupted life style... Its seems to me the ones who can afford cell > phones live a better more settled and affluent life style than those > who can't afford them... You can believe what you want. Now who's trying to stuff them all into a "one size fits all" bag? > And, in my experience, if a young woman can > afford a cell phone in this day and age, she's getting one... Well bully for your experience. > You sound smug so I think anything I say will be, in your opinion, > inferior to what you think... I see. That from the person who said this in another thread "So, there we go. If you're into interracial dating or are black or just enjoy mixing with other cultures stay away from hillary landslide areas. You're less likely to be happy living there and you're less likely to find an intelligent converstation." But I'm the smug one, eh? You're an idiot. How's that for smug. > How about this... > Get yourself a sattleite dish and install it as close to the head of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > tower.. Please... It (hopefully) will limit the amount of time you have > to be smug on this earth... How clever. What are you - in junior high? Cause that's what you act like. Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') It doesn't take much imagination to figure an alternative explanation for that one out either. Do you think maybe people who are using their cell phones heavily before bed are keeping their minds keyed up with certain things - possibly troubles of the day or of the one to come, whereas people who don't have the need to be on the phone that late are maybe in a more relaxed state? Just a suggestion, with as much validity, maybe more, than yours of radio wave effects. ---------------------- So what you're saying bad news only travels on cell phone networks..? I guess you never thought that maybe non cell phone users are on the phone late at night as well..?? duh.. I guess the noncell users only get good news that doesn't trouble them..? And noncell phone users don't go online late at night with troubling issues..? Bottom line is you're an idiot who probably voted for sexist, race baiting hillary... Further I did the research of my mom's occupation after her death... as I previouslty stated, seamstresses have a higher incidence of brain cancer than that normal population, and not just by a small amount.. I have a friend who is a real estate agent. He'd love to show you some homes near cell towers ...They go cheap when they are thusly oriented...Lemme guess .. It's just a coincidence that owners of residential property sell their homes for less. I'm sure you'll come up with something other than 'they know it's unhealthy to live near a cell tower'...??? I'm not going to waste any more of my time talking to an obvious moron.. > So what you're saying bad news only travels on cell phone networks..? Nope. That's not at all what I said. > I > guess you never thought that maybe non cell phone users are on the phone > late at night as well..?? More false assumptions on your part. From comments you've made in this thread, it's clear that you wouldn't know a properly designed study and properly drawn conclusions if it bit you on the butt. > duh.. I guess the noncell users only get good > news that doesn't trouble them..? And noncell phone users don't go > online late at night with troubling issues..? Why do you continue drawing ridiculous conclusions? > Bottom line is you're an idiot who probably voted for sexist, race > baiting hillary... Neither is true. I don't think I'm an idiot, but I guess if a person were enough of one, they wouldn't know it. :) I generally don't vote for democrats. The last time I remember voting for a democrat was when Virgil Goode was still one, but he switched parties two years later. He always was a conservative in the wrong party prior to that (a carry-over/tradition from when his dad was a politician years ago). > Further I did the research of my mom's occupation after her death... as > I previouslty stated, seamstresses have a higher incidence of brain > cancer than that normal population, and not just by a small amount.. I have no reason to doubt that. Your explanation for the cause may or may not be correct. You're problem is you have a thought and you think that has to be *the* answer. I might have the exact same thoughts, but I would at least qualify them as suspicions or hunches, not as absolute truths. > I have a friend who is a real estate agent. He'd love to show you some > homes near cell towers ...They go cheap when they are thusly > oriented...Lemme guess .. It's just a coincidence that owners of > residential property sell their homes for less. I'm sure you'll come up > with something other than 'they know it's unhealthy to live near a cell > tower'...??? You need to separate public perception from facts and the laws of physics. I suspect if you gave it half a try, you could come up with several of your own examples in several different areas where public perception and reality are miles apart. That doesn't mean that everything that is commonly believed is wrong, but people not wanting to live near power lines might be right, or it might be pure superstition. I suspect you could find funded studies that absolutely and "scientifically "prove" exactly opposite answers. > I'm not going to waste any more of my time talking to an obvious moron.. That's jake with me. Have a nice day - and don't take any wooden nickels. Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') >Anybody know what causes brain tumors? Head injury maybe, I don't know >but would like to. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > >Are you a motorola lab rat..? That is quite interesting. Cell phones piss me off a lot. I wonder what the hell we ever did without them. Personally, I've severely limited my cell phone use by using a 'pay as you go' AT&T phone. I might make one call a month. SignatureScott in Florida That is quite interesting. Cell phones piss me off a lot. I wonder what the hell we ever did without them. Personally, I've severely limited my cell phone use by using a 'pay as you go' AT&T phone. I might make one call a month. SignatureScott in Florida -------------- My theory is not that EMF's cause cancer in and of themselves, but that they weaken our natural defenses (and confuse the body and mind's electrical impulses and rhythms) and if we're exposed to them with enough regularity, we become a more susceptible candidate for all kinds of problems not just cancer.. And of course as we age, cancer (and other issues) will show up in those who tend to have (or had) a higher exposure to EMF's first.. But I think, like we were with cigarettes, we'll have to be hit over the head over and over (as a society) before we'll even begin to embrace these studies. > Anybody know what causes brain tumors? Head injury maybe, I don't know > but would like to. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > When I said this type of stuff on discussion boards 3 years ago they > told me to get my tin foil hat...I don't hear that very much any more.. This is the sort of thing that won't really be known until years down the line... Cathy > CP > > Are you a motorola lab rat..? > Anybody know what causes brain tumors? Head injury maybe, I don't know > but would like to. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Are you a motorola lab rat..? I have a lot of electronic devices around me and am in RF fields quite regularly and have been for almost 50 years. My cousin who died of brain cancer was a firefighter with a large metro fire department. Thanks for your insight. I hope it's not true, but there could be some connection especially when in strong RF fields such as commercial broadcast transmitters or radar beams. -- shame.... i wish him well.... even though i disagree with him as a politician... clearly it has affected him physically... >I thought you guys would be interested in this, since there's a big thread >going on regarding his health, here. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Natalie >I thought you guys would be interested in this, since there's a big thread >going on regarding his health, here. > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24728667/ > > That's quite serious. I heard the diagnosis on the radio on my way home from work today. :-( Cathy > Natalie |
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