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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / May 2008Stolen from another group: Fox News
In response to a number of complaints that FOX News does not show enough Black and Hispanic people on its network, FOX has announced that they will now air ' America 's Most Wanted' TWICE a week. On Tue, 20 May 2008 19:07:28 GMT, hachiroku +O+A+m+/ <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote: >In response to a number of complaints that FOX News does not show enough >Black and Hispanic people on its network, FOX has announced that they >will now air ' America 's Most Wanted' TWICE a week. ROFL.....  SignatureScott in Florida hachiroku +O+A+m+/, 5/20/2008,3:07:28 PM, wrote: > In response to a number of complaints that FOX News does not show > enough Black and Hispanic people on its network, FOX has announced > that they will now air ' America 's Most Wanted' TWICE a week. Well, they are Fair and Balanced... "hachiroku ????" ... > In response to a number of complaints that FOX News does not show enough > Black and Hispanic people on its network, FOX has announced that they > will now air ' America 's Most Wanted' TWICE a week. I can't believe you think that's funny. Natalie > "hachiroku ????" ... >> In response to a number of complaints that FOX News does not show [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Natalie I thought hard about you before I posted it, Nat. You certainly don't fit the category... "hachiroku ????" < Wickeddoll® wrote: >> "hachiroku ????" ... >>> In response to a number of complaints that FOX News does not show [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I thought hard about you before I posted it, Nat. You certainly don't fit > the category... That's not the point - it's pretty racist in and of itself. There are certainly plenty of minority-dominated programs in which they're not criminals. This crosses a line, IMO. Natalie >> I thought hard about you before I posted it, Nat. You certainly don't >> fit the category... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > This crosses a line, IMO. Sorry. But, I have said before, I am slightly racist. Especially when it comes to Hispanics. Ask your husband if he'll ever visit his hometown again! "hachiroku ????" Wickeddoll® wrote: >>> I thought hard about you before I posted it, Nat. You certainly don't >>> fit the category... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Sorry. I figured you didn't mean any harm, which is why I replied :-) > But, I have said before, I am slightly racist. Especially when it comes > to Hispanics. Ask your husband if he'll ever visit his hometown again! My mother-in-law certainly is prejudiced against Puerto Ricans. She used to rail against them all the time, when my kids were little, and we had to undo the damage after each visit to her house, by re-explaining why disliking someone based on what they are, instead of what they *do* is wrong. Drives me nuts when she says stuff like, "My neighbors are Puerto Ricans, but they're nice." - Like they shouldn't be nice. That's one of the (very) few things I don't like about my MIL, but she's a product of her upbringing, just like the rest of us. Natalie >> But, I have said before, I am slightly racist. Especially when it comes >> to Hispanics. Ask your husband if he'll ever visit his hometown again! [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > things I don't like about my MIL, but she's a product of her upbringing, > just like the rest of us. That's the way it is if you have anything to do with that area. I wasn't nearly as bad before they stole my "Hachiroku"...and then broke into it again after I spent a month putting it back together. They just had a big bust, something like 30 members of La Familla there. More filth off the streets, unless the judges let them out again (Google Chief Anthony Scott) hachiroku ハチロク wrote to Wickeddoll(R): > But, I have said before, I am slightly racist. Especially when it comes > to Hispanics. Why be racist if you know that you're racist? > hachiroku wrote to Wickeddoll(R): > >> But, I have said before, I am slightly racist. Especially when it comes >> to Hispanics. > > Why be racist if you know that you're racist? I saw this yesterday, but it didn't strike me what you're saying. I try. But having a car stolen by hispanics, and then broken into when I got it repaired sure didn't help. Seeing them standing on street corners selling dope don't help. Come to Holyoke MA and get an idea why I have some difficulty with Hispanics. I *try* not to paint with a broad brush, and I know plenty of good Hispanics, and I certainly try to jusdge people for *who* they are as opposed to *what* they are, but with gangs, rapes, murders, drugs, theft, prositution, car jackings, etc, etc it sure gets difficult at times. "hachiroku" wrote in message larry moe 'n curly wrote: >> hachiroku wrote to Wickeddoll(R): >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > opposed to *what* they are, but with gangs, rapes, murders, drugs, theft, > prositution, car jackings, etc, etc it sure gets difficult at times. Blame that on poverty and ignorance. I saw the same thing in New Hampshire, except by whites. Natalie >> I saw this yesterday, but it didn't strike me what you're saying. >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Blame that on poverty and ignorance. I saw the same thing in New > Hampshire, except by whites. Bellows Falls, VT, "Hachiroku ????" Wickeddoll® wrote: >>> I saw this yesterday, but it didn't strike me what you're saying. >>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Bellows Falls, VT, LOL one of my closest friends lives there. I hadn't heard of those problems in that area. Natalie >>> Blame that on poverty and ignorance. I saw the same thing in New >>> Hampshire, except by whites. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > LOL one of my closest friends lives there. I hadn't heard of those > problems in that area. I was working in Brattleboro and mentioned I had had a car stolen, and one of the women asked me, "Bellows Falls?" Seems it's Vermonts own little Holyoke... > "Hachiroku ????" > Wickeddoll® wrote: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Natalie So maybe the only difference between you guys and Charles is that he's seen the same behavior in all races, and you guys will eventually get there? :) Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') "Bill Putney" ... >> "Hachiroku ????" >>>>> I saw this yesterday, but it didn't strike me what you're saying. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Bill Putney Over to you, Hachi! Natalie >> So maybe the only difference between you guys and Charles is that he's >> seen the same behavior in all races, and you guys will eventually get [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Over to you, Hachi! Actually, yes. Springfield MA is a good example. It has to do with being 'cool' and the rappers are such excellent role models for youth that they all try to get guns and drugs so they can act like gangstas and thugs. There's a shooting at least every weekend in Springfield, a city of ~100,000. And it's not just the black and hispanic kids, although they do make up the majority. You mean like "Cops" and "Americas most wanted?" The sad truth is most black victims of crime were victimized by our back "brothers." > "hachiroku ????" < > Wickeddoll. wrote: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Natalie > That's not the point - it's pretty racist in and of itself. There > are certainly plenty of minority-dominated programs in which they're > not criminals. > > This crosses a line, IMO. If you think that's bad then what do you think of some of the material I send you? "badgolferman" ... >> That's not the point - it's pretty racist in and of itself. There >> are certainly plenty of minority-dominated programs in which they're [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > If you think that's bad then what do you think of some of the material > I send you? You mean like that one you sent of those a.sholes next to a painting? I told you, I think. If I reply, you know it bothered me for one reason or another (or I thought it was exceptionally good). But I don't see any reason to make a big deal of it, since it was just you and me, not a newsgroup. :-) Natalie > > If you think that's bad then what do you think of some of the > > material I send you? > > You mean like that one you sent of those a.sholes next to a painting? I can't remember that one. I'll try to get more offensive though... "badgolferman" ... >> > If you think that's bad then what do you think of some of the >> > material I send you? >> >> You mean like that one you sent of those a.sholes next to a painting? > > I can't remember that one. I'll try to get more offensive though... :-P Natalie > "hachiroku ????" < > Wickeddoll® wrote: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Natalie There are two ways you could have chosen to take it - one way as a racist comment, the other as a jab at Fox News. Choices... Besides - black comedians make precisely the same kind of jokes to 90+% black audiences to howls of laughter all the time with nary a protest. To get some perspective and a sense of humor on this, listen to Mike Birbiglia's "You can call me crack*a*, but you can't call me crack*er*" routine. Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') "Bill Putney" ... >> "hachiroku ????" < >>>>> In response to a number of complaints that FOX News does not show [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Bill Putney Just because they laugh, doesn't make it right. I don't laugh at any of that stuff, and I'm certainly not PC-obsessed. Natalie > "hachiroku ????" ... >> In response to a number of complaints that FOX News does not show enough >> Black and Hispanic people on its network, FOX has announced that they >> will now air ' America 's Most Wanted' TWICE a week. > > I can't believe you think that's funny. I'm sorry, but I thought it was hilarious. I agree that it is extremely distasteful and highly prejudiced, but it's still funny. "Jeff Strickland" ... > "Wickeddoll®". >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I'm sorry, but I thought it was hilarious. I agree that it is extremely > distasteful and highly prejudiced, but it's still funny. I think I have a pretty thick PC skin, but this one just struck me as overly rude. *shrug* Natalie > "Jeff Strickland" ... >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Natalie Sorry. I suppose if I was a person of color (other than white) I suppose it would not be so funny. I've got to hand it to you (YOU, personally), you do indeed seem to have a pretty broad level of tolerance of stuff like this. I accept that this one might have cut you a bit too close to the bone. If you put on your Sick Hat, you gotta admit there is some hidden humor in there. "Jeff Strickland" ... > "Wickeddoll®" >>>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > you do indeed seem to have a pretty broad level of tolerance of stuff like > this. I'm a black woman in an interracial marriage - it's either have thick skin, or be miserable. LOL > I accept that this one might have cut you a bit too close to the bone. If > you put on your Sick Hat, you gotta admit there is some hidden humor in > there. Look at it this way, suppose someone complained that their weren't enough working-class whites on Fox, and they said, "OK, we'll play more of "Cops" and "World's Dumbest Criminals" I think that would piss off more than a few whites. Natalie > "Jeff Strickland" ... >> [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Natalie Maybe, but I would not be among them. >> I accept that this one might have cut you a bit too close to the bone. >> If you put on your Sick Hat, you gotta admit there is some hidden humor [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I think that would piss off more than a few whites. Actually, I think that's even funnier! You have to take into account the element these shows exhibit. On Thu, 22 May 2008 00:30:41 GMT, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote: >>> I accept that this one might have cut you a bit too close to the bone. >>> If you put on your Sick Hat, you gotta admit there is some hidden humor [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Actually, I think that's even funnier! >You have to take into account the element these shows exhibit. No one can offend me because I refuse to take offense at anything anyone says to or about me. You see, I am in control of being offended and I refuse to cooperate with idiots. I can chose to be offended, insulted or humiliated or I can chose not to be. You can't insult me if I refuse to be insulted. The side benefit to this is that I'm in a good mood most of the time and I can get a good laugh at the ones who carry a chip on their shoulder. Life is good when you can laugh. Jack > The side benefit to this is that I'm in a good mood most of the time and I > can get a good laugh at the ones who carry a chip on their shoulder. Life > is good when you can laugh. Same here! > No one can offend me because I refuse to take offense at anything > anyone says to or about me. You see, I am in control of being [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Jack Oh blow it out your ear!! LOL! Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') > Look at it this way, suppose someone complained that their weren't enough > working-class whites on Fox, and they said, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Natalie For the joke to be funny, it has to play on the perceived stereotypes. You have to admit that some in the black community are to blame for the image that they portray and that some even seem to be proud of. I'm talking about the rap/hip hop industry and how they portray themselves on certain TV shows and comedy acts that supposedly are made for their own entertainment, and also certain antics of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and the NAACP. Indeed, what does the term "gangsta" mean - what image is that attempting to portray? Case in point: The Bill Cosby show got canceled because some of the more vocal in the black community were offended at how the family was portrayed. It wasn't nasty enough. I have to think that if I was black, I would be furious at the crap that the black community has dumped onto itself in the way of public image. Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') > I have to think that if I was black, I would be furious at the crap > that the black community has dumped onto itself in the way of public > image. Who is going to speak up for that community? I believe they have no spokesmen that are credible enough to garner any serious debate without getting into the same finger-pointing and blame game as usual. Signature"The laws in this city are clearly racist. All laws are racist. The law of gravity is racist." ~ Marion Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC "badgolferman" ... >> I have to think that if I was black, I would be furious at the crap >> that the black community has dumped onto itself in the way of public [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > spokesmen that are credible enough to garner any serious debate without > getting into the same finger-pointing and blame game as usual. Ironically, Cosby is a good representative of our people, but as an actor, he's not taken as seriously. No, a.s-clowns like Sharpton and Jackson grandstand, and make us look even worse than what some already think we are. Natalie In message news:g13e7i.2ns.1@news.evilcabal.org, "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> burned some brain cells writing: > Ironically, Cosby is a good representative of our people, but as an > actor, he's not taken as seriously. So does that mean Kenneth Branagh is the epitome of the "representative white man"? And would he not be had he and Larry Fishburne swapped roles in "Othello"? "Klark Kent" "Wickeddoll®" burned some brain cells writing: >> Ironically, Cosby is a good representative of our people, but as an >> actor, he's not taken as seriously. > > So does that mean Kenneth Branagh is the epitome of the "representative > white man"? And would he not be had he and Larry Fishburne swapped roles > in "Othello"? See my previous (and last) comment to you on this subject. Natalie > "badgolferman" ... >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Natalie BC don't like white people...I know first hand. Of course, being a hippie at the time may not have helped. However, once I got him talking about cars... "Bill Putney"... >> Look at it this way, suppose someone complained that their weren't enough >> working-class whites on Fox, and they said, [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Bill Putney There's a grain of truth in any stereotype. I just don't embrace them - no matter what they are. I don't believe all poor whites are "trailer trash" or that all Jews are money-grubbers. To revel in the stereotype is an injustice to the majority who aren't. Yes, the hip-hop culture embraced it, and have twisted the perception of our people, but believe me when I say most of us ave been resisting that crap from the beginning. The Cosby show wasn't criticized for not being "nasty" enough. Some thought its popularity would give the impression that typical blacks live the way they do, which is largely not true at all. Like it or not, people tend to believe what they see on television (unless it's already described as fantasy/sci-fi). Some felt it gave the impression that most blacks no longer struggle for that life. Personally, I thought the Cosby show was a good step forward, showing us what we *can* be, but you'll always get those who won't believe it's possible (thereby excusing their lack of effort). Only problem I ever had with it was believing the two girls were the product of two dark-skinned black parents. They were very obviously biracial, so it was ridiculous that they were cast in those parts. Natalie In message news:g13e4p.1eo.1@news.evilcabal.org, "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> burned some brain cells writing: > The Cosby show wasn't criticized for not being "nasty" enough. Some > thought its popularity would give the impression that typical blacks > live the way they do, which is largely not true at all. Like it or > not, people tend to believe what they see on television (unless it's > already described as fantasy/sci-fi). Some felt it gave the impression > that most blacks no longer struggle for that life. So I guess TV gave the impression that all whites are Archie Bunker. Or Meathead. Or Arnold Horshack. Or Fred & Ethel Mertz. Or Sonny Crockett. Pffft. > Personally, I thought the Cosby show was a good step forward, showing > us what we *can* be, but you'll always get those who won't believe it's > possible (thereby excusing their lack of effort). Only problem I ever > had with it was believing the two girls were the product of two > dark-skinned black parents. They were very obviously biracial, so it > was ridiculous that they were cast in those parts. Do you also consider it "ridiculous" for Jessye Norman, Barbara Hendricks and Kathleen Battle to be cast as Europeans? If not, would you attend a performance of "Porgy And Bess" with Bryn Terfel and Renee Fleming in the title roles? And if not, why not? "Klark Kent" "Wickeddoll®" burned some brain cells writing: >> The Cosby show wasn't criticized for not being "nasty" enough. Some >> thought its popularity would give the impression that typical blacks [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Meathead. Or Arnold Horshack. Or Fred & Ethel Mertz. Or Sonny > Crockett. Pffft. Yes it did - some were foolish enough to believe it. >> Personally, I thought the Cosby show was a good step forward, showing >> us what we *can* be, but you'll always get those who won't believe it's [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Do you also consider it "ridiculous" for Jessye Norman, Barbara Hendricks > and Kathleen Battle to be cast as Europeans? Opera is not the same as a weekly sitcom portraying a family. You're just being facetious, but that's nothing new. > If not, would you attend a performance of "Porgy And Bess" with Bryn > Terfel > and Renee Fleming in the title roles? And if not, why not? Yes I would. The idea of someone singing instead of speaking is so unrealistic that anything they do in that setting is acceptable. The sets, costumes, etc., are only window-dressing, framing each song. It's not the same, and you know it. If you're going to pick another pointless fight with me, be advised I'm not taking anymore of the bait. Natalie In message news:g13hk6.t4.1@news.evilcabal.org, "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> burned some brain cells writing: > "Klark Kent" > "Wickeddoll®" [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Yes it did - some were foolish enough to believe it. What are their names? >>> Personally, I thought the Cosby show was a good step forward, showing >>> us what we *can* be, but you'll always get those who won't believe [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Opera is not the same as a weekly sitcom portraying a family. How so? Far more opera is based on historical fact than is the sitcom genre. > You're > just being facetious No I'm not. Answer the question. >> If not, would you attend a performance of "Porgy And Bess" with Bryn >> Terfel >> and Renee Fleming in the title roles? And if not, why not? > > Yes I would. Why do you think no such production has been staged by a major company? What reaction do you think it would attract, keeping in mind that nobody has a problem with Battle playing Figaro's Susanna or Norman playing Carmen or Hendricks playing Boheme's Mimi? > The idea of someone singing instead of speaking is so > unrealistic that anything they do in that setting is acceptable. The > sets, costumes, etc., are only window-dressing, framing each song. > It's not the same, and you know it. You do know not all opera consists of singing, correct? Some have speaking! > If you're going to pick another pointless fight with me, So pointing out your racial purity hypocrisy is now "picking a pointless fight"? Nice try, Tawana. > "Bill Putney"... >> [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > Natalie Bill Cosby is perhaps the best person that the black community should look to, while Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are arguably the worst. Bill says, yeah, life sucks but you can make it better for yoruself. Al and Jesse say, yeah, life sucks and it's all whitey's fault. Bill has consistantly delivered a positive message to the community, Jesse and Al make a living on the negative message they spout. Life might suck -- or it might be peachy -- but the way one approaches the condition they find theirself in makes a huge difference in how that condition eventually works itself out. Approach life as Bill portrays, and it has to get better. Approach life as Al and Jesse do, and it can only get better for them, but not for anybody else. The "leaders" of the black community are without a doubt the worst thing that has ever happened to the black community. Bill says, grap a hold of your boot straps and lift yourself. Jesse and Al say, you can never raise yourself from where you are, you have to wait for somebody else to lift you up. Nobody is going to lift you up, stop waiting. Since nobody lifts up, those that are not lifted are held down. They are not held down by anybody in particular, but it is somebody else's fault they are not lifted up so they go through life being bitter about being held down. "Jeff Strickland" ... > "Wickeddoll®" ... >> "Bill Putney"... [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > Bill Cosby is perhaps the best person that the black community should look > to, while Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are arguably the worst. No argument from me. > Bill says, yeah, life sucks but you can make it better for yoruself. Al > and Jesse say, yeah, life sucks and it's all whitey's fault. Bill has > consistantly delivered a positive message to the community, Jesse and Al > make a living on the negative message they spout. And remaining a victim. > Life might suck -- or it might be peachy -- but the way one approaches the > condition they find theirself in makes a huge difference in how that [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > community are without a doubt the worst thing that has ever happened to > the black community. Amen. > Bill says, grap a hold of your boot straps and lift yourself. Jesse and Al > say, you can never raise yourself from where you are, you have to wait for [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > fault they are not lifted up so they go through life being bitter about > being held down. Like Charles says, and for once I agree with him, "victocrats" - perennial victims. Natalie >> I have to think that if I was black, I would be furious at the crap that >> the black community has dumped onto itself in the way of public image. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > There's a grain of truth in any stereotype. I just don't embrace them - no > matter what they are. 12:30 AM on Cartoon Network, a show called the Boondocks. Wrap your head in duct tape before watching... "hachiroku" Wickeddoll® wrote: >>> I have to think that if I was black, I would be furious at the crap that >>> the black community has dumped onto itself in the way of public image. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Wrap your head in duct tape before watching... I know of that show/comic strip. Much too mean-spirited for my taste. Natalie >> 12:30 AM on Cartoon Network, a show called the Boondocks. >> >> Wrap your head in duct tape before watching... >> > I know of that show/comic strip. Much too mean-spirited for my taste. Comic strip? They have a strip, too? I'll have to look for that. At first it was bothering me with how much they were using the "N" word, but now that I get the point, it makes sense. >Personally, I thought the Cosby show was a good step forward, showing us >what we *can* be, but you'll always get those who won't believe it's >possible (thereby excusing their lack of effort). Only problem I ever had >with it was believing the two girls were the product of two dark-skinned >black parents. They were very obviously biracial, so it was ridiculous that >they were cast in those parts. You may want to look at Bill Cosby's parents and his brother Russell. In the Cosby show the lead characters, Hilton Lucas (Cosby) and Ruth Lucas (Phylicia Rashad), had only one child, their daughter Erica, played by T'Keyah Crystal Keymah. The Cosby show and Cosby Show must never be confused with one another, or else. <rantonrave@mail.com> .. Wickeddoll® wrote: >Personally, I thought the Cosby show was a good step forward, showing us >what we *can* be, but you'll always get those who won't believe it's [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >that >they were cast in those parts. You may want to look at Bill Cosby's parents and his brother Russell. In the Cosby show the lead characters, Hilton Lucas (Cosby) and Ruth Lucas (Phylicia Rashad), had only one child, their daughter Erica, played by T'Keyah Crystal Keymah. The Cosby show and Cosby Show must never be confused with one another, or else. LOL or else? I barely remember that other show, but of course I mean the more recent one. Also, there are various shades of brown in my own (immediate) family, but that's not the only factor. Recessive genes can change skin tone, but features that are overwhelmingly Caucasian are obvious to other blacks, especially the hair of biracial folks. Those two girls had very Caucasian features; not just their skin tone. My kids each have some features of both races, but it varies. For some reason, biracial girls are always fairer-skinned than boys, no matter what combination of parents they have. I dunno why that is, but I haven't seen any exceptions. One thing I can tell you with absolute certainty that Michael Jackson's so-called biological kids are definitely *not*. They're his, but only because he bought them. Jackson is in reality a rather dark-skinned person; bleaching his skin won't change his DNA. All of those kids have silky, flaxen hair, light-colored eyes and fair skin. Now, I can believe one, maybe two of those features might be present in one of them, but not *all three!* It's bullshit. Natalie > "Bill Putney"... > The Cosby show wasn't criticized for not being "nasty" enough. Some thought > its popularity would give the impression that typical blacks live the way > they do, which is largely not true at all. Like it or not, people tend to > believe what they see on television (unless it's already described as > fantasy/sci-fi). Some felt it gave the impression that most blacks no > longer struggle for that life. But if you go with that, and conclude that therefore it is inappropriate to have shows like the Cosbys on, and you therefore have to have mostly shows that reflect the squalor and/or "nastier" (sorry - there must be a better word) side of life that is reality for many, that's not honest either, and it does the "race" an injustice also by portraying them as people that can't rise above their circumstances and that maybe enjoy the victimhood. We could compare shows like Good Times, the Jeffersons, etc. One show that I think should have been considered offensive was offended me was Martin. The character "Shanaynay" is exactly the wrong image that should be portrayed, yet it reinforced a stereotype. Not trying to sound preachy. I suspect we agree 99.9% on this and that you won't disagree with the above. But - hey - no problem if you disagree. > Personally, I thought the Cosby show was a good step forward, showing us > what we *can* be, but you'll always get those who won't believe it's > possible (thereby excusing their lack of effort). Only problem I ever had > with it was believing the two girls were the product of two dark-skinned > black parents. They were very obviously biracial, so it was ridiculous that > they were cast in those parts. Those recessive genes can do funny things. :) Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') "Bill Putney"... >> The Cosby show wasn't criticized for not being "nasty" enough. Some >> thought its popularity would give the impression that typical blacks live [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > me was Martin. The character "Shanaynay" is exactly the wrong image that > should be portrayed, yet it reinforced a stereotype. Gawd, don't get me started. But *I* didn't see the Cosby show as being a problem on the whole, but I certainly heard from others who didn't like it for those reasons. > Not trying to sound preachy. I suspect we agree 99.9% on this and that > you won't disagree with the above. But - hey - no problem if you disagree. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Bill Putney They can't be that dominant in anybody! One child, maayyybe, but two? Nope. On that same note, here's something interesting that happened when two biracial folks had kids (By the way, not to be nauseatingly PC, but no biracial person I know likes to be called "mixed" - that's dogs and cats LOL): http://www.snopes.com/photos/people/mixedtwins.asp Natalie > On that same note, here's something interesting that happened when two > biracial folks had kids... Hah - that's neat. So different and yet so much alike. They look - like sisters. Who'd a thunk it! > ...(By the way, not to be nauseatingly PC, but no > biracial person I know likes to be called "mixed" - that's dogs and cats > LOL):... Better that than "high yeller [yellow]". Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') "Bill Putney" ... >> On that same note, here's something interesting that happened when two >> biracial folks had kids... [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Bill Putney Actually that, "yella" :-) Natalie > "Bill Putney" ... >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Natalie I've heard it all three ways in my lifetime. Sophisticated people say "high yellow". :) Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') >For the joke to be funny, it has to play on the perceived stereotypes. > >Case in point: The Bill Cosby show got canceled because some of the more >vocal in the black community were offended at how the family was >portrayed. It wasn't nasty enough. More accurately, Chet Kinkaid never caught on with audiences. But Cosby's first successful comedy TV series, the Cosby Show, was never cancelled and was still hugely popular when it was voluntarily ended by Cosby himself. > In response to a number of complaints that FOX News does not show enough > Black and Hispanic people on its network, FOX has announced that they > will now air ' America 's Most Wanted' TWICE a week. You bastard! LOL! Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') |
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