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I was just fantasizing and playing around with the mileage slider at the Toyota site and came up with 2 choices for 35+ MPG, of course the Prius and the Yaris. Never heard of that one, is it a new model? Not a hybrid? But still gets 35 MPG? > I was just fantasizing and playing around with the mileage slider at the > Toyota site and came up with 2 choices for 35+ MPG, of course the Prius [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Not a hybrid? But still gets 35 MPG? It is a smaller car that has been sold in Europe and Asia for a few years. Here it is an Echo replacement, but it was built concurrent with the Echo for a few years. They have a sedan and a hatchback. It is basically a Tercel with a smaller body. I think the sedan is OK, the hatch is a little quirky looking, but I like quirky looking Jap cars. It is also made in Japan, which is a plus for me. Depending on driving habits, you may get more MPG. >> I was just fantasizing and playing around with the mileage slider at the >> Toyota site and came up with 2 choices for 35+ MPG, of course the Prius [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Depending on driving habits, you may get more MPG. Did your grandfather call the Japanese "Japs"? It is, and has always been, a pejorative, and offensive. >>> I was just fantasizing and playing around with the mileage slider at >>> the Toyota site and came up with 2 choices for 35+ MPG, of course the [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Did your grandfather call the Japanese "Japs"? It is, and has always > been, a pejorative, and offensive. OK. "mack" <mackerel@dslextreme.com> wrote : >>> I was just fantasizing and playing around with the mileage slider >>> at the Toyota site and came up with 2 choices for 35+ MPG, of [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Did your grandfather call the Japanese "Japs"? It is, and has > always been, a pejorative, and offensive. How come? Sounds like just an abbreviation for Japan. Why do people get offended by everything nowdays? I heard that "negro" is offensive, yet they have the "United Negro College Fund" and "negro" only means "black" in latin. Yet we can call people "black people", so why is "negro" offensive. Why do people get offended by everything nowdays? During the war everybody use the term Japs when reffering to the Japanese. Negro always had a negative conation, but Black, like White, is descriptive. It was the southern slovenly pronunciation of Negro that led to us being know as niggers, in any event > "mack" <mackerel@dslextreme.com> wrote : >> Did your grandfather call the Japanese "Japs"? It is, and has >> always been, a pejorative, and offensive. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Why do people get offended by everything nowdays? > I think the sedan is OK, the hatch is a little quirky looking, but I like > quirky looking Jap cars. It is also made in Japan, which is a plus for me. The hatchback is quirky looking. For hatchbacks I would prefer the "fit." The sedan looks like a normal car. Maybe rivals that of the focus but with better mileage... > Depending on driving habits, you may get more MPG. hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote : >> I was just fantasizing and playing around with the mileage slider at >> the Toyota site and came up with 2 choices for 35+ MPG, of course [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Depending on driving habits, you may get more MPG. I've been digging a little more on the web, and it looks like nothing really beats a Prius. That "Smart Car" looked like it was sized down to where it could get really good mileage but I read a review saying not so, and it aint so hot either. Like a smaller car that doesn't get much better MPG, and doesn't seem to do other things well either. It's just that I might be able to afford $13k but not double that for a Prius. AND I was looking at a Consumer Reports bubble chart in the store that appeared to be saying that the Prius gets its lowest rating for safety? Is that so? It's just that these gas prices are killing us, even with the 25 MPG that the DX wagon gets. > hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote : > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > It's just that these gas prices are killing us, even with the 25 MPG > that the DX wagon gets. Don't be drawn into the idea that bigger is better unless its your boyfriend, Sarah. We, as a nation, need to downsize. We need to make sure folks like Mike are not scared by all the big vehicles on the road, because there will ultimately be fewer. >> It is a smaller car that has been sold in Europe and Asia for a few >> years. Here it is an Echo replacement, but it was built concurrent with [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I've been digging a little more on the web, and it looks like nothing > really beats a Prius. I'm not a big fan of the Prius. Yeah, it's neat, and the technology is bleeding-edge, but you also have 2 motors that can break rather than one, and I think the fix for the electric motor is to replace rather than repair. One came in with some kind of battery issue, and we had to strip the interior out to get to the battery and connections; the car was in the shop for four days. Personally, I can't see spending >$20,000 for a car that size, when I was getting >42 MPG in a Tercel driving the wheels off it. And it was an automatic to boot... =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote : > Personally, I can't see spending >$20,000 for a car that size, when I > was getting >42 MPG in a Tercel driving the wheels off it. > > And it was an automatic to boot... Highway or city? What year? > =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Highway or city? *AVERAGE!!!* > What year? 1995. I was working at a used car dealer in 2001 and took it in trade for a purple Escort! (She liked the color...) It sat for a week, and when I decided to buy it some guy came in and offered $2800 for it(I got it for $1400)...tough decision, but I was just finishing up the installation of the Killer Stereo! ;) I drove it three uears and sold it to buy my 18 MPG Supra (!) I don't regret it when the sun is shining and the roof is open... But that was an overall average, combination of 'city' and highway driving. I live in a rural area and rarely drive <40 MPH. I also only ran the car on Premium! I started it with 89 Octane and was getting ~38 MPG. I switched to Premium (93 Octane) and it went up to 42 MPG, consistantly. I put one of these on it... http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/images/product_images/images/pilot/bullyairint akepolished.jpg and it went to 44-45 MPG consistantly They should change the name from prius to pompus, the way some of these dolts defend it... > They should change the name from prius to pompus, the way some of these > dolts defend it... Maybe someday you'll test drive one, discover its realities, &... change your tune. ;-P Cathy =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote : >> =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno@ae86.GTS> >> wrote [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > *AVERAGE!!!* Sweet. > I also only ran the car on Premium! I started it with 89 Octane and > was getting ~38 MPG. I switched to Premium (93 Octane) and it went up > to 42 MPG, consistantly. Ouch. Why can't they get that good a MPG with regular? > I put one of these on it... > > http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/images/product_images/images/pilot/b > ullyairintakepolished.jpg > > and it went to 44-45 MPG consistantly WOW ! Averaging 42 MPG. What is a Tercel, a two cylinder motorcycle? ;) "Sarah Houston" <SHoust@pndfnospam.com> wrote in message >>>> Personally, I can't see spending >$20,000 for a car that size, when >>>> I was getting >42 MPG in a Tercel driving the wheels off it. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> *AVERAGE!!!* > WOW ! > > Averaging 42 MPG. What is a Tercel, a two cylinder motorcycle? ;) To tell you the truth, I have no idea how I did so well. It was a 1.5 liter underpowered machine (although it had ~110 HP, only 2 less than my Hachiroku) I put the biggest tires that would fit on the stock rims, and drove the hell out of it! > "Sarah Houston" <SHoust@pndfnospam.com> wrote in message > >>>>> Personally, I can't see spending >$20,000 for a car that size, when >>>>> I was getting >42 MPG in a Tercel driving the wheels off it. >>>>> >>>>> And it was an automatic to boot... Biggest tires should be a hint ;) >> WOW ! >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >>>>>> >>>>>> And it was an automatic to boot... > Biggest tires should be a hint ;) I checked the speedometer against one of those signs they put out saying "Your speed is..." It was within 1 mph. I also had it 'officially' checked once. "You were doing 65 in a 50, but since the car is new to you, please take it easy until your used to the car!" >>> WOW ! >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> Hachiroku) I put the biggest tires that would fit on the stock rims, and >> drove the hell out of it! =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote : >> WOW ! >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Hachiroku) I put the biggest tires that would fit on the stock rims, and > drove the hell out of it! Ahhh, oversized tires. :) > =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Ahhh, oversized tires. :) The car came with 155/80-13's and I put 185/60-13's on it. I ran out of engine long before I ran out of grip. >> *AVERAGE!!!* > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Ouch. Why can't they get that good a MPG with regular? I did a spreadsheet with the data from my "Little Black Book" I keep in the glovebox. Every fillup I check the MPG and write it down. That way I have an average of what the car is doing and can spot trouble as it develops, instead of after... Over the course of three years I was tracking the price of 87 and of 93 octane, plugged the numbers into a spreadsheet, and came to the conclusion I actually *saved* $220 by using premium, thanks to the increase in MPG. Your mileage may vary... >I was just fantasizing and playing around with the mileage slider at the > Toyota site and came up with 2 choices for 35+ MPG, of course the Prius [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Not a hybrid? But still gets 35 MPG? I own one. I like it. Even though I am 6'2, I manage to fit into it. I wish the steering wheel was telescopic, but it is a fine car and gets you great mileage. The Prius is twice the cost, but is also a worthy vehicle if you can afford it. "Don't Taze Me, Bro!" <N0one184@N0Where.com> wrote : >>I was just fantasizing and playing around with the mileage slider at >>the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > gets you great mileage. The Prius is twice the cost, but is also a > worthy vehicle if you can afford it. I did a little web search and found: http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/2008-Toyota-Yaris/ Doesn't sound so hot, though the price is attractive. Perhaps IF you don't mind subjecting yourself an your family safety to a midget car on today's highways to save a relative few dollars a year on fuel > "Don't Taze Me, Bro!" <N0one184@N0Where.com> wrote : > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Doesn't sound so hot, though the price is attractive. > Perhaps IF you don't mind subjecting yourself an your family safety to a > midget car on today's highways to save a relative few dollars a year on fuel What are "a relative few dollars?" What is "a few dollars?" $20 a week ($1000 per year)? That sounds like more than a few to me. Maybe we all didn't get rich by predatory dealer practices. Is one just saving money? And, isn't the price of the Yaris less than say a Ford F150? Please provide evidence that these vehicles are less safe than other vehicles. Jeff >> "Don't Taze Me, Bro!" <N0one184@N0Where.com> wrote : >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> >> Doesn't sound so hot, though the price is attractive. Mike thinks upsizing is the only way to go... One day we will all be cruising cruise ships so we can keep our family safe... even though it will be like bumper cars/boats... Though the truth is that safety is not what crosses Mike's mind. Mike has been programed by a partisan faction to believe that SUV's are great and oil consumption is endless... > Mike thinks upsizing is the only way to go... One day we will all be > cruising cruise ships so we can keep our family safe... even though it will > be like bumper cars/boats... Though the truth is that safety is not what > crosses Mike's mind. Mike has been programed by a partisan faction to > believe that SUV's are great and oil consumption is endless... Safety isn't a car, safety is a system. A car in and of itself has no safety. A car with a driver..now, that's different. >> Mike thinks upsizing is the only way to go... One day we will all be >> cruising cruise ships so we can keep our family safe... even though it [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > A car in and of itself has no safety. A car with a driver..now, that's > different. Speaking of, and totally off topic, I was reading the other day that store front accidents involving elderly drivers happen around 1,000 times a year. That's freaky! "Don't Taze Me, Bro!" <N0one184@N0Where.com> wrote : >>> Mike thinks upsizing is the only way to go... One day we will all >>> be cruising cruise ships so we can keep our family safe... even [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > store front accidents involving elderly drivers happen around 1,000 > times a year. That's freaky! 1000 people die every day in the U.S. alone, from smoking. > "Don't Taze Me, Bro!" <N0one184@N0Where.com> wrote : > 1000 people die every day in the U.S. alone, from smoking. Yep... totally preventable. > Perhaps IF you don't mind subjecting yourself an your family safety to a > midget car on today's highways to save a relative few dollars a year on > fuel We do that with the Ford Escape Hybrid. The Yaris is a get to work vehicle... save money doing so, so forth... etc > I did a little web search and found: > http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/2008-Toyota-Yaris/ > > Doesn't sound so hot, though the price is attractive. Reviews usually mean squat. As always, it is an economy car. In other words, you get what you pay for. With that said, that's why you test drive it first. I personally appreciate the gas savings. > I was just fantasizing and playing around with the mileage slider at the > Toyota site and came up with 2 choices for 35+ MPG, of course the Prius [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Not a hybrid? But still gets 35 MPG? The Yaris is like a Honda Fit. It has been around about 1 or 2. Jeff Both of which are imported and do not have a single NA apart, let alone a part made in the US. ;) >> I was just fantasizing and playing around with the mileage slider at the >> Toyota site and came up with 2 choices for 35+ MPG, of course the Prius [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Jeff >>The Yaris is like a Honda Fit. It has been around about 1 or 2. > >Both of which are imported and do not have a single NA apart, let alone a >part made in the US. ;) So make up for the fact by selling more products and services to Japan rather than by whining. "Both of which are imported and do not have a single NA apart, let alone a part made in the US. ;)" -------------------------- And that alone would be a GREAT reason to buy either... Also, the corolla gets as good mileage as the yaris, yet it's roomier with more available options.. Yaris is about 3 k less than corolla. Yes, the Prius is not a very safe car.. And not a proven technology...I'd stay away ...that is, if the price doesn't keep you away.... CP "Both of which are imported and do not have a single NA apart, let alone a part made in the US. ;)" -------------------------- And that alone would be a GREAT reason to buy either... Also, the corolla gets as good mileage as the yaris, yet it's roomier with more available options.. Yaris is about 3 k less than corolla. Yes, the Prius is not a very safe car.. And not a proven technology...I'd stay away ...that is, if the price doesn't keep you away.... CP We've recently been through Prius threads with you; your comments (re: Prius) turned out to be based all on your won pure guesswork, & virtually all untrue. Cathy We've recently been through Prius threads with you; your comments (re: Prius) turned out to be based all on your won pure guesswork, & virtually all untrue. Cathy ----------------------------- I don't know who the 'we' this democrat is referring to... But like hillary refusing to admit a woman has no business being president and expecting us to buy her arguement that time on her knees in the WH counts as 'experience' in the WH, these prius loving demon-crats refuse to admit they're wrong.. All one has to do is go to edmunds.com and do a compare of the 2009 corolla and the new prius. The demon-crats were arguing the prius is bigger so they could not be compared. ...HA.. Any idiot can see the corolla is bigger (or as big), more reliable and can be had for a few dollars over invoice. The prius is going for sticker or above and the sticker is 8 grand higher..But whateva...vote 4 hillary and drive a 'pompus' and when you get home put your head back into the sand .... CP > We've recently been through Prius threads with you; your comments (re: > Prius) turned out to be based all on your won pure guesswork, & [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I don't know who the 'we' this democrat is referring to... But like > hillary refusing to admit a woman has no business being president Holy crap - are you for real?? Cathy and > expecting us to buy her arguement that time on her knees in the WH > counts as 'experience' in the WH, these prius loving demon-crats refuse [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > get home put your head back into the sand .... > CP >> We've recently been through Prius threads with you; your comments (re: >> Prius) turned out to be based all on your won pure guesswork, & [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> get home put your head back into the sand .... >> CP Holy crap - are you for real?? Cathy ==================== Am I supposed to be intimidated by you and your flunky..? Hillary showed her true (KK)Kolors today... You're just another bitter female lookin' for a successful male to argue with because you know none of us will take the bait of a fake fish.... Leave the successful guys like us to tap the young fresh things ..you're over... > Holy crap - are you for real?? > Cathy > ==================== > > Am I supposed to be intimidated by you and your flunky..? Tomes already posted his own reply, which was basically the same as mine - you're full of crap; you have not a clue what you're talking about, re: the Prius. Hillary > showed her true (KK)Kolors today... > > You're just another bitter female I'm not bitter. (Okay, I'm a bit bitter about GWB & his administration!) But I do get annoyed when you post your own guesses as answers, & those guesses aren't based on facts. And therefore they're simply your own skewed opinions. Ex: Dimensions of cars don't lend themselves well to mere opinion - there are hard facts to go by. And why throw in Hillary there, when we were talking about the Prius car? Because you assume that's who I'm voting for - solely because I'm female, that I'd be upset about any gaffes she makes, & that she's is not the apparent democratic nominee?? You're assuming too much yet again - based on no knowledge of facts, & therefore your assumption may well be wrong. lookin' for a successful male to argue > with because you know none of us will take the bait of a fake fish.... > > Leave the successful guys like us to tap the young fresh things > ..you're over... Yeah, right... You're so full of crap. Cathy "Cathy F." *snipping troll logic* > Yeah, right... You're so full of crap. > > Cathy Don't waste your time, Cathy - I gave up expecting him to stop hating women lonnnng ago. He has severe issues. Put it this way - at least you can *talk* to Charles The Curmudgeon. Natalie > "Cathy F." > *snipping troll logic* [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Natalie Thanks for the tip-off; I was coming to the same conclusion myself. (I was imagining a sort of hybrid of Charles the Curmudgeon & Sharxx.) Kinda scary that people like him (CP) exist. I sometimes wonder if a few people have distinctly split personas, re: IRL & cyber. Because if they're like this (irrational, extremely nasty, etc.), for ex., IRL... well... ack! ===:-O OTOH, if they are reasonably normal IRL but have a very different persona for the internet, well... still kinda scary, I guess! Cathy > "Cathy F." > *snipping troll logic* [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Natalie I used to LIKE women, till I figured out all the single ones that would date me fell into the exact same pattern and that I was just wasting my time trying to find a real conservative among the singles. I know a lot of married women that I get along with real well. But there are no single ones that think the same way, they've all been poisoned in their minds by Betty Fredan or Gertrude Stein or someone else on the Left. That's why most of them are STILL SINGLE. I'm sitting here in a sweat top with a hood in my apartment. The fool idiot owner turned on the AIR CONDITIONING this week, so of course there's no heat and the nighttime temps have been below 45. Guess I'll have to bake some bread to heat up the house tomorrow, I'm not going anywhere with gas at 4.25. (I crossed the county line and got gas at 4.09 today, took 45 bucks to fill up a COROLLA with its 50 liter tank.) Going to have to throw the winter blankets back on the bed. Charles the Curmudgeon "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" ... > "Wickeddoll®"... >> "Cathy F." [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Betty Fredan or Gertrude Stein or someone else on the Left. That's why > most of them are STILL SINGLE. Well, despite disagreeing with your views, you're at least civilized with your responses, rather than resorting to hideous name-calling. > I'm sitting here in a sweat top with a hood in my apartment. The fool > idiot owner turned on the AIR CONDITIONING this week, so of course there's [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Charles the Curmudgeon Air conditioning... best...invention...ever. Natalie > "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" ... >> [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Natalie Did I mention it's 45 again this morning with the wind out of the north? And the AIR CONDITIONING is ON. (I turned my unit off, but there's no way of calling up heat!) If it gets too much colder in here I'm going to have to break out my winter coat. Catching Pee-numonia on Memorial Day Weekend. Sheesh. BTW, that's Fahrenheit, not Celsius. This is the coldest Memorial Day I remember. It should be bikini weather. It's not going to be any fun to go watch the girls on North St Beach. Maybe, since it's such a cold day here in Hell, the Cubs might actually win the World Series for the first time in 100 years. Charles the Curmudgeon "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" ... > "Wickeddoll®" >>>> "Cathy F." [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > Charles the Curmudgeon LOL will you hate me if I say I'm jealous? I hate hot weather with a passion, so the colder the better for me. Natalie > "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" ... >> [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > Natalie I've been trying to get the boss to send me down to Florida, but now he's back from Florida. Trade you, but then where you're at would probably get cold and Chicago would probably get HOT again. Hmmm, wonder if we're going to repeat 1816, the year without a summer? Charles the Curmudgeon "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" >>>>>> "Cathy F." >>>>>> *snipping troll logic* [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > back from Florida. Trade you, but then where you're at would probably get > cold and Chicago would probably get HOT again. Just my luck, probably so. > Hmmm, wonder if we're going to repeat 1816, the year without a summer? > > Charles the Curmudgeon Works for me... Natalie > > "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" ... > >> [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > > Charles the Curmudgeon Maybe you can do a halp jon kerry to get us out of chicago. -- > This is the coldest Memorial Day I remember. It should be bikini weather. But not for you. Sure, you may be wasting a waxing, but you'll be doing humanity a favor for which you'll be greatly rewarded, i.e., not punished. "Norm De Plume" ... >> This is the coldest Memorial Day I remember. It should be bikini >> weather. > > But not for you. Sure, you may be wasting a waxing, but you'll be > doing humanity a favor for which you'll be greatly rewarded, i.e., not > punished. ROFL! You're on a roll. Natalie > "Norm De Plume" ... >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Natalie Yes but with the air temp below 70 and the water temperature at 55, no female in her right mind is going to wear a bikini this weekend. Even the fashionistas aren't that crazy. Even the boy crazy girls aren't that desperate. Were I thinking about going in the water, I'd wear a wetsuit. I don't even think anyone could talk Horseface Parker into wearing one up here this weekend, even if her husband promised to be there and ogle her. Besides, I'd never wax. My sister has promised me that if I ever try waxing, she has dibs on the job. And she's promised to make it HURT. She was shocked enough that I shaved my legs after the bypass. But I got so tired of looking at legs that had black hair on one side and brown on the other. Charles the Curmudgeon "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" ... > "Wickeddoll®"... >> "Norm De Plume" ... [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Charles the Curmudgeon OK, Charles, that's way more than I *ever* wanted to know about you! Natalie > "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" ... >> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Natalie The hair on my legs wasn't even dark enough to see until I was near 30. I'm pretty nearly a hairless wonder from the neck down. I've got a little more hair since they shaved my chest and other things for the bypass, but still not a whole lot. Why do you think decent women are not interested in me? I'm not manly enough. So I have given up. It's still only 67 today. Charles the Curmudgeon. "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" ... > "Wickeddoll®" >>>> "Norm De Plume" ... [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > Charles the Curmudgeon. 10 degrees cooler, and I'd be happy. Natalie I'll think "Wickeddoll" may agree. The next time you meet a woman in whom you are interested, try doing what I did. Lick your eyebrows ;) >> "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" ... >>> [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > Charles the Curmudgeon. > I'll think "Wickeddoll" may agree. The next time you meet a woman in whom > you are interested, try doing what I did. Lick your eyebrows ;) That didn't even work on the short bus when I was going to school. I was 'friends' with all the cheerleaders in high school, because they had evaluated that I, like the planet Earth in the Hitchhiker's Guide, was mostly harmless. Charles the Curmudgeon. Thai's odd I never met a woman that did NOT look, smile and ask my name whenever I looked at them and licked MY eyebrows LOL >> I'll think "Wickeddoll" may agree. The next time you meet a woman in whom >> you are interested, try doing what I did. Lick your eyebrows ;) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Charles the Curmudgeon. "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" ... > "Mike hunt... >> I'll think "Wickeddoll" may agree. The next time you meet a woman in whom [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Charles the Curmudgeon. Don't knock the surrogate siblings! I had plenty of close platonic male friends when I was a teenager (I still do, as a matter of fact). Sometimes we females need to talk to a guy who isn't our significant other. We need the male point of view from a guy we can trust (which is what I think is the reason straight women love the company of gay men in particular; no pressure - and they're funny as hell!) I think my teen years would have been *way* more difficult without my "brothers." I have biological brothers, but it's not the same. Conversely, guys have always told me I'm easy to talk to, when they want a female point of view. They know I'll at least *try* to listen to them without any preconceived notions. Any relationship can be very meaningful, with or *without* romance. Natalie > "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" ... >> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Natalie I have a lot of female friends, unfortunately all of them are married. Even the cheerleaders from high school got married to someone else. At 50, I'm permanently alone and giving up on life. I've been trying for most of the last 40 years to change that, and it's useless. There is no change for me. Why do people think that if I can't effect change in the last 40 or so years, that automagically I'm going to be able to change things in the next 10? The only changes I've seen in the last 40 years are steadily worsening changes. Nothing for the better. I don't even have a 'happy place' to go to when the dentist gasses me anymore. Charles the Curmudgeon "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" ... > "Wickeddoll®" ... >>> [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Charles the Curmudgeon If you're convinced, then that'll be completely true. Nobody can change your life for you. Natalie > "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" ... >> [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > Natalie For 50 years I was convinced things were bad, but I could change them. But nothing changed for the better. I've finally realized I've just been kidding myself all these years. I call it reality setting in. I don't know what you're calling it. Charles the Curmudgeon "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" ... >>> "Wickeddoll®" ... >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > Charles the Curmudgeon Intractable, severe depression. Natalie > "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" ... >>>> [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > Natalie Then I've been 'severely depressed' most of the time since I was 6, which is pretty much as far back as I remember. Supposedly they had me on anti-depressants in first grade, which why I don't remember before that. They didn't work. Charles the Curmudgeon. "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" > "Wickeddoll®" ... >>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > > Charles the Curmudgeon. And you never figured there are not only other meds, but much better ones? Trust me, there are. Depression is a chemical disease, and very treatable. That's why I keep trying to get you to accept it, but you don't want to. Natalie > "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" >> "Wickeddoll®" ... [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > Trust me, there are. Depression is a chemical disease, and very treatable. > That's why I keep trying to get you to accept it, but you don't want to. Not to mention how the meds (in all areas, not just antidepressants, obviously) have changed since Charles was 6 years old! Cathy > Natalie I have a lot of female friends, unfortunately all of them are married. Even the cheerleaders from high school got married to someone else. At 50, I'm permanently alone and giving up on life. I've been trying for most of the last 40 years to change that, and it's useless. There is no change for me. Why do people think that if I can't effect change in the last 40 or so years, that automagically I'm going to be able to change things in the next 10? The only changes I've seen in the last 40 years are steadily worsening changes. Nothing for the better. I don't even have a 'happy place' to go to when the dentist gasses me anymore. Charles the Curmudgeon ---------------------- Sounds like you're basing your happiness on what other people think. That is a recepie for failure. I could give a god damn what other people think. At 27, I was stuck in a dead end situation in NE pennsylvaia (cold winters). I was turned down for the PA state police in spite of the fact I was on the top of the list phisically and intellectually. Politics over rode all of that. In spite of being divorced and having children in NEPA, I decided to move to Florida to see what opportunites I could find. I ended up starting my own business (20 years old now) and buying a summer home in northeast Pa... Over those 20 years I traded one hot sexy 18-23 Y.O. in for another when I got bored with them. Now I've reached the point where I want more than sex with a female who has a bad attitude and a hot body.. I know there are good, subserviant AND sexy females in the world. And the US is just a small place in that world.. I plan on going to SE asia or Russia to find my soul mate once I am ready to settle down.. I'm 50 ...I figure another 5 years. Being a lap dog for feminazi, skakified spoiled american females is a waste of time and akin to self flogging. Have you been trained by your mom or sisters to hate yourself and your maleness?? Your on line talking to a bitch who is married and always on the internet taking to men. Would you want your wife to be that way..? Why are you encouraging behaviour you would not look or respect in a partner.?? I'm just sayin'... CP "I have a lot of female friends, unfortunately all of them are married. Even the cheerleaders from high school got married to someone else. At 50, I'm permanently alone and giving up on life. I've been trying for most of the last 40 years to change that, and it's useless." ---------------- Translation- 'I've been trained by society to determine my value based on what females think of me. I'm giving up on life because I don't have a female to valadate me. It matters more what females think of me than what I think of myself.I cannot find happiness in myself..' I guess that's one approach, trying to get females to feel sorry for you... How's that worked out for you so far..? Quit judging your insides by other people's outsides. Do you know that 25 % of the population admits they have NO ONE they can confide in?? Do you really believe all those cheerleaders are happily married? You should thank your maker you don't have to support their shoe habit or listen to them bitch (or snore) everyday.. Wikked breathe's husband hates her so much she has to come to this DB to get someone to pay attention to her... What do you think a female who is on line as much as she is looks like..? If you knew, you probably wouldn't spill you guts to her. Taking drugs as these females are suggesting is NOT the answer. CP >>> We've recently been through Prius threads with you; your comments (re: >>> Prius) turned out to be based all on your won pure guesswork, & [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >> Cathy The only thing I have to say here is that politics has nothing to do with any of this. Sheesh. Tomes The only thing I have to say here is that politics has nothing to do with any of this. Sheesh. Tomes ----------------- Toyota has nothing to do with it either tomes..you f.cking moron ... What's your point..? Is someone forcing you to read posts on the internet again?...Man your life sucks.. hint- When I don't like a program on tv I change the f.cking channel... > We've recently been through Prius threads with you; your comments (re: > Prius) turned out to be based all on your won pure guesswork, & [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > corolla is bigger (or as big), more reliable and can be had for a few > dollars over invoice. You are absolutely full of sh*t. I have an '04 Corolla, & test drove an '04 Prius. And did very careful comparisons, re: aspects of each car. None of your assertions are correct. Cathy > The prius is going for sticker or above and the sticker is 8 grand > higher..But whateva...vote 4 hillary and drive a 'pompus' and when you > get home put your head back into the sand .... > CP > Yes, the Prius is not a very safe car.. How do you document that assertion? > And not a proven > technology.. How do you document that assertion? >"Both of which are imported and do not have a single NA apart, let alone >a part made in the US. ;)" False... and with that said Toyota creates ten's of thousands of American jobs. Also, the corolla gets as good mileage as the yaris, yet it's roomier with more available options.. Yaris is about 3 k less than corolla. Yes, the Prius is not a very safe car.. And not a proven technology...I'd stay away ...that is, if the price doesn't keep you away.... CP ____________________ Here we go again, with the baseless anti-Prius stuff. Please cite your sources for this, thanks. Also - why is it that your posts do not allow proper formatting of replies - is this a webtv thing? Tomes >> I was just fantasizing and playing around with the mileage slider at the >> Toyota site and came up with 2 choices for 35+ MPG, of course the Prius [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Jeff Toyota Yaris Toyota Yaris (1999-2005) We reveal what you should look for on this practical, desirable supermini... Sold as the Vitz in Japan. >> I was just fantasizing and playing around with the mileage slider at the >> Toyota site and came up with 2 choices for 35+ MPG, of course the Prius [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Jeff Here's a little more. Interesting it replaced the Starlet, which was only sold here for a few years, but has been on sale in at least Japan, Australia and New Zealand since the early 70's. There were a lot of parts available for it, and even a Factory turbo: History Mar 1999: All-new Yaris replaces Starlet. Oct 1999: 1.3-litre engine introduced. Jan 2000: High-roofed Yaris Verso estate joins line-up. Also uses 1.3 engine. Mar 2001: ABS made standard on all models, and 1.5-litre T Sport introduced. Feb 2002: 1.4 D-4D diesel arrives. Mar 2003: Facelift with restyled nose. Old S, GS, GS, GLS and CDX trims replaced by T3, T Spirit and T Sport variants. >I was just fantasizing and playing around with the mileage slider at the > Toyota site and came up with 2 choices for 35+ MPG, of course the Prius [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Not a hybrid? But still gets 35 MPG? Semi-new model - supplanted the Echo, I think - which supplanted the Tercel, IIRC (although may've been yet another model in-between there someplace). Not a hybrid, but a small car, & gets good mpg. Cathy > I was just fantasizing and playing around with the mileage slider at the > Toyota site and came up with 2 choices for 35+ MPG, of course the Prius [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Not a hybrid? But still gets 35 MPG? I could do this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Toyota_Yaris_Verso.jpg "Sarah Houston" ... >I was just fantasizing and playing around with the mileage slider at the > Toyota site and came up with 2 choices for 35+ MPG, of course the Prius [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Not a hybrid? But still gets 35 MPG? Decent very small car, Sarah. When we bought our Prius, it actually came down to these two as the final choice. The Yaris was just to 'cardboardy' for us by a mile. We remain pleased with the choice. Tomes |
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