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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / May 2008{OT:} We can't fix the fossil fuel problem
We won't fix the fossil fuel problem until we absolutely have to. I'm not sure we can. Our entire economy depends completely on the internal combustion engine. It won't be easy when we have almost no mass transit system and the railroad infrastructure is crumbling. Oh wait, the rightwingnut solution: blame somebody. That will surely fix the problem. >We won't fix the fossil fuel problem until we absolutely have to. I'm >not sure we can. Our entire economy depends completely on the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Oh wait, the rightwingnut solution: blame somebody. That will surely >fix the problem. It is the fault of the left wingnuts in congress......  SignatureScott in Florida > On Sun, 25 May 2008 10:38:19 -0700 (PDT), "edspyhil...@yahoo.com" > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Scott in Florida You are still part of the problem because you can't work on solutions. You just don't have the intelligence to be a problem solver. You are just a toothless sot of a consumer. >> On Sun, 25 May 2008 10:38:19 -0700 (PDT), "edspyhil...@yahoo.com" >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >solutions. You just don't have the intelligence to be a problem >solver. You are just a toothless sot of a consumer. The solution is to get rid of all of you liberals. At least get you out of control of Congress. You are the problem....so the solution is obvious. Problem solved. SignatureScott in Florida >>> On Sun, 25 May 2008 10:38:19 -0700 (PDT), "edspyhil...@yahoo.com" >>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Problem solved. I'll second that. The environmental left wingnuts in Congress have stopped any new development since Prudhoe Bay in the 1970's. They were screaming about the Alaska Pipeline and tried to stop that. Now in a turnabout, GreenPussy is talking about nuclear energy, which they have been trying to shut down since Three Mile Island and before. Charles the Curmudgeon. >>>> On Sun, 25 May 2008 10:38:19 -0700 (PDT), "edspyhil...@yahoo.com" >>>> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > >Charles the Curmudgeon. Florida Power and Light is getting ready to construct two New Clear plants and Progress Energy is looking at two more. When fusion becomes feasible, we should go all fusion in the US. If it is good enough for the sun, it should be good enough for us. SignatureScott in Florida > On Sun, 25 May 2008 16:39:14 -0500, "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" > [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Why don't we just hop into the time machine and go forward to get the plans? >> On Sun, 25 May 2008 16:39:14 -0500, "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" >> [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] >Why don't we just hop into the time machine and go forward to get the >plans? First we have to get rid of the liberals....then the problem will work itself out.... SignatureScott in Florida Scott in Florida wrote: > Florida Power and Light is getting ready to construct two New Clear plants I didn't know FP&L was controlled by Scientologists. On May 25, 5:39 pm, "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" <CharlesTheCurmudg...@comcast.net> wrote: > "Scott in Florida" <Mov...@outa.here> wrote in messagenews:3tij345ta3n4uvdqv2318l3u1s7kcbnu2t@4ax.com... > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Rather than get wrapped around the axle about where to drill for more oil, do away with the internal combustion engine. Fossil fuels, especially crude oil, is finite. What have we got, 5 years, 10 years? I get the feeling that the Middle East countries know this and are going to lower production to extend income from oil sales into the future. I don't blame them for not caring about the USA first instead of their own countries first. You rightwingtards are one idea people, one trick ponies. On May 25, 5:39 pm, "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" <CharlesTheCurmudg...@comcast.net> wrote: > "Scott in Florida" <Mov...@outa.here> wrote in > messagenews:3tij345ta3n4uvdqv2318l3u1s7kcbnu2t@4ax.com... [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Rather than get wrapped around the axle about where to drill for more oil, do away with the internal combustion engine. Fossil fuels, especially crude oil, is finite. What have we got, 5 years, 10 years? I get the feeling that the Middle East countries know this and are going to lower production to extend income from oil sales into the future. I don't blame them for not caring about the USA first instead of their own countries first. You rightwingtards are one idea people, one trick ponies. Right...do away with the engine and do what, start using the horse and buggy again? It would be nice to be able to stop using oil, but until we can, we cant stop using what is ours. Only an idiot like you would suggest we stop using oil without actually having a substitute for it. >On May 25, 5:39 pm, "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" ><CharlesTheCurmudg...@comcast.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] >cant stop using what is ours. Only an idiot like you would suggest we stop >using oil without actually having a substitute for it. There is no reasoning with your insanity..... SignatureScott in Florida > <edspyhil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > - Show quoted text - See? You can only handle two choices: 1) The status quo; 2) an absurd alternative. The rightwingtards, conservatives, cannot solve this problem. You are too plodding, stupid, dull-witted. Only an idiot keeps going down the same path after finding out it is a deadend. On May 25, 7:44 pm, "Reasoned Insanity" <nowh...@cox.net> wrote: > <edspyhil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] > > - Show quoted text - See? You can only handle two choices: 1) The status quo; 2) an absurd alternative. The rightwingtards, conservatives, cannot solve this problem. You are too plodding, stupid, dull-witted. Only an idiot keeps going down the same path after finding out it is a deadend. And it's because of retards like you that we have $4 a gallon gas. There is no reasoning with people like you. I would almost go as far as saying you are as much in bed with foreign oil as Bush's family is. Maybe that's why you don't want us drilling our own oil while at the same time searching for a viable substitute for oil. > <edspyhil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 93 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Another 12 year old blathering like his/her retarted father. You are a major dim bulb. Lights are on but nobody is home. On May 25, 9:04 pm, "Reasoned Insanity" <nowh...@cox.net> wrote: > <edspyhil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 100 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Another 12 year old blathering like his/her retarted father. You are a major dim bulb. Lights are on but nobody is home. That's it, way to show your stupidity. Too bad for you, history shows how traitorous your party has been. Now you sound like a 12 year old instead of actually addressing the fact the democrats have consistently stopped us from drilling our own oil for the last 30 years. > On May 25, 7:44 pm, "Reasoned Insanity" <nowh...@cox.net> wrote: >> <edspyhil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 92 lines] > why you don't want us drilling our own oil while at the same time > searching for a viable substitute for oil. I'm waiting for someone to get impatient with 4 dollar gas. Right now the tinder is dry, the wood is stacked, all it's waiting for is a spark. Charles the Curmudgeon. > I'm waiting for someone to get impatient with 4 dollar gas. Right now the > tinder is dry, the wood is stacked, all it's waiting for is a spark. There won't be a revolt over gas prices unless they suddently and noticably affect employment or the standard of living or exceed the cost of a Starbucks coffee. Also $4 is only slightly higher than the all-time price, after factoring inflation, and gas mileage is better now than in the early 1980s. >> Right...do away with the engine and do what, start using the horse and >> buggy again? It would be nice to be able to stop using oil, but until we [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > plodding, stupid, dull-witted. Only an idiot keeps going down the same > path after finding out it is a deadend. I reiterate: what has a Democrat-led Congress done in two years but demand 'apologies' from other countries? Not much, from what I have seen. > Fossil fuels, especially crude oil, is finite. What have we got, 5 years, 10 > years? More like a few hundred years' worth, especially because of all the coal, shale oil, and tar sands. Like it or not, in 50 years, most of the world's energy will still come from hydrocarbons, unless their CO2 emissions limit their use. > I get the feeling that the Middle East countries know this and > are going to lower production to extend income from oil sales into the > future. I don't blame them for not caring about the USA first instead > of their own countries first. They used to keep prices low because they had to -- the US could simply greatly increase output whenever the Arabs got out of line. But that power is gone, unless prices stay high long enough to make alternative sources of hydrocarbons get into the mainstream in huge volume or if the US gets very, very serious about conservation and alternative energy. The Saudis were afraid of such measures even as late as the 1990s. The only thing we can do right now, short of overthrowing the Saudi royal family, is conserve, and this doesn't necessarily mean slowing down the economy. >> I get the feeling that the Middle East countries know this and are going >> to lower production to extend income from oil sales into the future. I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > of hydrocarbons get into the mainstream in huge volume or if the US gets > very, very serious about conservation and alternative energy. Where I live the people that cry the most about 'dependance on oil' vote down every planned solution. NIMBYs, or, more to the point, COVEs: Citizens Opposed to Virtually Everything. Need I say 99.9% of them are true Left-Wing Liberals? >>> I get the feeling that the Middle East countries know this and are going >>> to lower production to extend income from oil sales into the future. I [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Need I say 99.9% of them are true Left-Wing Liberals? When COVEs vote these things down, I'm sure you, being an excellent citizen, write to your elected barnacles and tell them your opinion. When you write to them, are the letters handwritten, or do you type them on the same computer you use for posting to newsgroups? >> Where I live the people that cry the most about 'dependance on oil' >> vote down every planned solution. NIMBYs, or, more to the point, COVEs: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > When you write to them, are the letters handwritten, or do you type them > on the same computer you use for posting to newsgroups? I'm in the Silent Majority. The truth is, you can't beat these k00ks down, the primary reason being the Democrat state and federal reps depend on their votes to get re- elected. They know which side their bread is buttered on and stick up for the k00ks. Consequently we have no real jobs (have to save the land for farmers!), no real shopping centers (Wal*Mart is an Evil Corporation!), no real economy, not much of anything, really. >>> Where I live the people that cry the most about 'dependance on oil' >>> vote down every planned solution. NIMBYs, or, more to the point, COVEs: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I'm in the Silent Majority. Translation: You waste time whining in newsgroups instead of actually trying to affect reality by making your voice heard. Thomas Jefferson would've kicked you around the yard and pissed on your shoes. >>> When COVEs vote these things down, I'm sure you, being an excellent >>> citizen, write to your elected barnacles and tell them your opinion. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Translation: You waste time whining in newsgroups instead of actually > trying to affect reality by making your voice heard. http://www.house.gov/olver/ http://www.house.gov/neal/ http://www.house.gov/frank/ http://kennedy.senate.gov/issues_and_agenda/index.cfm http://kerry.senate.gov/ With this bunch of Bozos, a Conservative doesn't stand a chance! Lookit Richard Neal's page, fer chrissakes! It ought to be headlined, "How to take the Government for all it's worth"!!! >>>> When COVEs vote these things down, I'm sure you, being an excellent >>>> citizen, write to your elected barnacles and tell them your opinion. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Lookit Richard Neal's page, fer chrissakes! It ought to be headlined, > "How to take the Government for all it's worth"!!! Thanks for proving my point about you. >>>>> When COVEs vote these things down, I'm sure you, being an excellent >>>>> citizen, write to your elected barnacles and tell them your opinion. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Thanks for proving my point about you. What point was that? >>>>>> When COVEs vote these things down, I'm sure you, being an excellent >>>>>> citizen, write to your elected barnacles and tell them your opinion. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > What point was that? I don't know what he proved about you, but he proved that he was pointless. >>>>>>> When COVEs vote these things down, I'm sure you, being an excellent >>>>>>> citizen, write to your elected barnacles and tell them your opinion. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > I don't know what he proved about you, but he proved that he was > pointless. You girls need to learn how to keep track of discussions you're supposedly involved in. >>>>>>>> When COVEs vote these things down, I'm sure you, being an >>>>>>>> excellent citizen, write to your elected barnacles and tell them [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > You girls need to learn how to keep track of discussions you're supposedly > involved in. Not where you're concerned. Ever heard of "Cyclical Redundancy"? >> I'll second that. The environmental left wingnuts in Congress have >> stopped any new development since Prudhoe Bay in the 1970's. They were [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > do away with the internal combustion engine. Fossil fuels, especially > crude oil, is finite. What have we got, 5 years, 10 years? Estimates are, using our *own* oil, 65 years. We had THRITY years since the last 'crisis' and *EVERYBODY* sat on their hands, never mind, 'my' party or 'your' party. The Democrats are billing themselves as the party of "change", they have the power now, and what have they done of note in the past two years? Issued ultimatums for the 'apologies' from Japan and Turkey? The whole friggin' lot is as useless as tits on a bull. > >> I'll second that. The environmental left wingnuts in Congress have > >> stopped any new development since Prudhoe Bay in the 1970's. They were [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > The whole friggin' lot is as useless as tits on a bull. Just think what the Iraq war funding could have bought in R&D. Over $800 Billion dollars - The government could put a hydrogen generator on every corner so we could go to hydrogen fuel cell cars. But NOOOOOOO, that is wasting money; that would be a government give- away; that could be considered an entitlement program. Logging into this news group is like walking into a desert and finding about 8 people just shouting 5 or 6 random phrases at the sky, over and over. >Just think what the Iraq war funding could have bought in R&D. Over >$800 Billion dollars - Yes you Dims in Congress sure suggested that. Not.... What good are Dims? SignatureScott in Florida > On Mon, 26 May 2008 05:38:41 -0700 (PDT), "edspyhil...@yahoo.com" > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Scott in Florida Har har har. You are a word wizard. Did you watch the HBO move Sunday night about how the repugnicans stole the 2000 election? >> On Mon, 26 May 2008 05:38:41 -0700 (PDT), "edspyhil...@yahoo.com" >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >Har har har. You are a word wizard. Did you watch the HBO move >Sunday night about how the repugnicans stole the 2000 election? Why would anyone watch a fantasy movie like that? SignatureScott in Florida > On Mon, 26 May 2008 06:36:25 -0700 (PDT), "edspyhil...@yahoo.com" > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > - Show quoted text - It was based on interviews and input from all parties. Too bad you can rise above petty prejudice. On May 26, 9:48 am, Scott in Florida <Mov...@outa.here> wrote: > On Mon, 26 May 2008 06:36:25 -0700 (PDT), "edspyhil...@yahoo.com" > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > - Show quoted text - It was based on interviews and input from all parties. Too bad you can rise above petty prejudice. ================ Was the movie longer than 3 minutes? If so, that's Sot's problem. It exceeded his weekly information quota. >> On Mon, 26 May 2008 06:36:25 -0700 (PDT), "edspyhil...@yahoo.com" >> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >It was based on interviews and input from all parties. Too bad you >can rise above petty prejudice. ROFLMAO The results of the 2000 election is fact. 'Interviews' with all parties means.................NOTHING! You liberal nuts could not beat GWB....once or twice. SignatureScott in Florida >> Yes you Dims in Congress sure suggested that. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Har har har. You are a word wizard. Did you watch the HBO move Sunday > night about how the repugnicans stole the 2000 election? Don't start with that... >> Estimates are, using our *own* oil, 65 years. >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > But NOOOOOOO, that is wasting money; that would be a government give- > away; that could be considered an entitlement program. So why doesn't the Democrat controlled Congress grab the bull by the horns and *DO* something? They're no better. > I'll second that. The environmental left wingnuts in Congress have > stopped any new development since Prudhoe Bay in the 1970's. Who told you to say that? > > I'll second that. The environmental left wingnuts in Congress have > > stopped any new development since Prudhoe Bay in the 1970's. > > Who told you to say that? These rightwingtards are like broken records playing the same groove over and over. Their party is suffering huge defections and they just repeat the same old crap. > We won't fix the fossil fuel problem until we absolutely have to. I'm > not sure we can. Our entire economy depends completely on the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Oh wait, the rightwingnut solution: blame somebody. That will surely > fix the problem. Well if there weren't a bunch of liberals trying to stop people from solving the problem it would be a lot easier. Sadly, many of them don't seem to like America very much. |
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