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The Yaris a year later..

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Dont Taze Me, Bro! - 22 Jun 2008 07:48 GMT
Well, it has been one year since we bought the Yaris. It still handles well.
No real issues with it at all. The only thing I tend to notice is the front
tires seem to wear down quicker than the back tires. That could be because I
break rather quickly sometimes due to the trafic of where I live.
Retired VIP - 22 Jun 2008 13:46 GMT
>Well, it has been one year since we bought the Yaris. It still handles well.
>No real issues with it at all. The only thing I tend to notice is the front
>tires seem to wear down quicker than the back tires. That could be because I
>break rather quickly sometimes due to the trafic of where I live.

Thanks for the report, that is good information for someone looking to
buy a Yaris.

As for the tires, the front tires always wear out first in a front
wheel drive car.  The front tires do 90% of the work.  All the rear
tires do is hold up the back end (the lighter of the two ends) and do
about 25% of the braking.  The front tires do most of the braking, all
of the propulsion and hold up about 70% of the car's weight.

Jack
ransley - 22 Jun 2008 17:14 GMT
> Well, it has been one year since we bought the Yaris. It still handles well.
> No real issues with it at all. The only thing I tend to notice is the front
> tires seem to wear down quicker than the back tires. That could be because I
> break rather quickly sometimes due to the trafic of where I live.

No need to wear out front tires, just drive in reverse.
Wickeddoll® - 22 Jun 2008 18:54 GMT
"ransley" <...
"Dont Taze Me, Bro!"  wrote:
> Well, it has been one year since we bought the Yaris. It still handles
> well.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I
> break rather quickly sometimes due to the trafic of where I live.

No need to wear out front tires, just drive in reverse.

********

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Natalie
Ray O - 22 Jun 2008 17:33 GMT
> Well, it has been one year since we bought the Yaris. It still handles
> well. No real issues with it at all. The only thing I tend to notice is
> the front tires seem to wear down quicker than the back tires. That could
> be because I break rather quickly sometimes due to the trafic of where I
> live.

Increase the tire pressure by about 5 PSI over the recommended cold tire
inflation pressure listed for your car.  Tire life should improve (assuming
that the vehicle is properly aligned), along with fuel economy,
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Hachiroku - 22 Jun 2008 17:44 GMT
> Well, it has been one year since we bought the Yaris. It still handles well.
> No real issues with it at all. The only thing I tend to notice is the front
> tires seem to wear down quicker than the back tires. That could be because I
> break rather quickly sometimes due to the trafic of where I live.

Stop the friggin' JackRabbit starts and your front tires will probably
last longer!  ;)

Since the car only has a 1.5 L engine, are you pressing the gas harder to
get up to speed (I did with the Tercel, but still managed ~44 MPG overall!)
Tomes - 23 Jun 2008 02:13 GMT
"Dont Taze Me, Bro!" ...
> Well, it has been one year since we bought the Yaris. It still handles
> well. No real issues with it at all. The only thing I tend to notice is
> the front tires seem to wear down quicker than the back tires. That could
> be because I break rather quickly sometimes due to the trafic of where I
> live.
Yep, you can expect the fronts to wear faster.  I have never bought 4 tires
at the same time on a front wheel drive vehicle.  I always put the new ones
on the front and keep the best axle's remaining tires on the rear to just
roll on.
Tomes
Dont Taze Me, Bro! - 23 Jun 2008 02:40 GMT
> "Dont Taze Me, Bro!" ...
>> Well, it has been one year since we bought the Yaris. It still handles
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> to just roll on.
> Tomes

Should I have the fronts rotated to the back and the backs rotated to the
fronts?
Ray O - 23 Jun 2008 03:36 GMT
>> "Dont Taze Me, Bro!" ...
>>> Well, it has been one year since we bought the Yaris. It still handles
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Should I have the fronts rotated to the back and the backs rotated to the
> fronts?

Yes, if you want to even out the wear between the front and rear tires.
Your owner's manual should specify the rotation interval.
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Scott  in  Florida - 23 Jun 2008 16:46 GMT
>> "Dont Taze Me, Bro!" ...
>>> Well, it has been one year since we bought the Yaris. It still handles
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>Should I have the fronts rotated to the back and the backs rotated to the
>fronts?

If you are a member of Sam's Club, I'd suggest you buy your
replacement tires there.  They will balance and rotate your tires free
for the life of the tire.

Well it is not 'free', cause you pay something like 10 bucks a tire
for the 'free' balance, rotate and road hazard when you buy the
tires...

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Tomes - 23 Jun 2008 21:55 GMT
"Scott in Florida" ...
>>"Tomes" ...
>>> "Dont Taze Me, Bro!" ...
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> for the 'free' balance, rotate and road hazard when you buy the
> tires...

Same Deal with BJ's.
nm5k@wt.net - 23 Jun 2008 17:44 GMT
> Yep, you can expect the fronts to wear faster.  I have never bought 4 tires
> at the same time on a front wheel drive vehicle.  I always put the new ones
> on the front and keep the best axle's remaining tires on the rear to just
> roll on.
> Tomes

I know in general it would make sense to put the new pair
on the front, and keep the old ones on the back.
But actually, when it comes down to the handling of the car,
it's better to use the new ones on the back, and the old ones
on front.
If you had periods of a loss of traction, a front wheel drive car
gets much more squirrelly and prone to spin if the new ones
are on the front, vs the rear.
Due to under/over steer characteristics...
This has been proven on police test courses btw, it's not
something I just made up.
I just read about it recently in fact..
Before I read that, I would also tend to slap the new ones
on front. But now I might not..
I usually prefer to buy a whole set at a time unless the other
pair really have a good bit of life left.
Retired VIP - 24 Jun 2008 14:12 GMT
>> Yep, you can expect the fronts to wear faster.  I have never bought 4 tires
>> at the same time on a front wheel drive vehicle.  I always put the new ones
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>I usually prefer to buy a whole set at a time unless the other
>pair really have a good bit of life left.

Some of these 'studies' and 'tests' are a bit misleading.  If you are
testing the car on clean dry pavement then bald tires will give the
most adhesion.  However if you test on damp or wet pavement then tires
with tread will work the best.

A lot of these tests are conducted at the limits of the vehicle and
you probably don't drive you car that way.  Ask yourself if you have
problems with handling / performance and then ask if it could be the
tires or if it's just the way the car is designed.

I wouldn't worry about which axle you put the new tires on as long as
they are quality tires and not some off-name discount tire.

Jack
nm5k@wt.net - 26 Jun 2008 02:48 GMT
On Jun 24, 8:12 am, Retired VIP <jackj.extradots....@windstream.net>
wrote:

> Some of these 'studies' and 'tests' are a bit misleading.  If you are
> testing the car on clean dry pavement then bald tires will give the
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Jack

Well, if you were losing traction, I would say that's approaching the
limits of the vehicle. :/
This pertains mostly to wet roads when hydroplaning.
I looked at the site that gave that info, and it was actually at
tires.com., and the testing was done at the Michelin proving grounds,
not a police course.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=52
In my corolla, I've never lost traction when dry. But I've hydroplaned
when wet one time already since I've had it. The car didn't spin or
anything that time.. Sure felt weird though..
It's probably not too big a deal as long as both pairs have legal
tread depth, but in their testing, they seemed to notice the
difference
in handling.
in2-dadark@webtv.net - 28 Jun 2008 12:48 GMT
"Yep, you can expect the fronts to wear faster. I have never bought 4
tires at the same time on a front wheel drive vehicle. I always put the
new ones on the front and keep the best axle's remaining tires on the
rear to just roll on."
Tomes
==============

If you were rotating your tires properly you wouldn't be saying
this..And you could buy your tires in one shot instead of being a PITA
for the service writer...
 
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