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Hi there, I'se yo new president. "Fat Moe" wrote in message.. > Hi there, I'se yo new president. No, you're a racist who has nothing constructive to say. Natalie >"Fat Moe" wrote in message.. >> Hi there, I'se yo new president. > >No, you're a racist who has nothing constructive to say. > >Natalie hehehehe! Snicker, snicker. You need to consider the person making the comment Natalie and then take into consideration the character of that person. In other words, don't be offended or insulted by the stupidity of others. Jack "Retired VIP" "Wickeddoll®" wrote: >>"Fat Moe" wrote in message.. >>> Hi there, I'se yo new president. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Jack Normally, I don't - but the fact that this schmoe directed it at Scott, who then went along with it, is pretty nauseating to me. I think anyone on this NG knows I'm not one to cry wolf about race. Natalie On Jul 24, 6:15 pm, "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1...@yahoo.com> wrote: > "Fat Moe" wrote in message.. > > Hi there, I'se yo new president. > > No, you're a racist who has nothing constructive to say. > > Natalie One interpretation of Fat Moe's post - it's what Scott imagines in his thoughts all day and night. Scott is foaming at the mouth about Obama. Scott is the best example of how racism is stupid. All Scott can see is Obama's skin color. Scott is flooding the digest with anti-Obama posts. I'm ready to get down to the business of phone banking and knocking on doors for Obama. Just waiting for the real campaign to begin after Labor Day. >On Jul 24, 6:15 pm, "Wickeddoll®" ><wickeddollnofeckingspam1...@yahoo.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >can see is Obama's skin color. Scott is flooding the digest with >anti-Obama posts. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHETHER BARRY IS GREEN. RED, BLACK or PURPLE... HE IS STUPID. You lefties will continue to call people who are critical of the empty suit Barry....racist. That is simply NOT TRUE.... >I'm ready to get down to the business of phone banking and knocking on >doors for Obama. Just waiting for the real campaign to begin after >Labor Day. CALL ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  SignatureScott in Florida > On Jul 24, 6:15 pm, "Wickeddoll®" > <wickeddollnofeckingspam1...@yahoo.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > doors for Obama. Just waiting for the real campaign to begin after > Labor Day. This is exactly what I was telling Cathy F. the other day. Just because one opposes Obama they get labeled as racist or afraid of his skin color. I vehemently oppose Obama based upon his policies and what I see happening if he is elected as President. I also opposed Hillary Clinton for the same reason but was labeled as a sexist in that case also. It is completely baseless and is just another bomb lobbed one's way to make them shut up lest they be ostracized. Scott is being taken to the woodshed for something he didn't even start. I'm sorry Natalie was offended but everyone else is like jackals pouncing on a flesh wound. Scott made an ill attempt at humor which is reasonable for Natalie to scold him for but you must realize he was set up for it by Fat Moe who seems to be getting a pass in this case. Sott's aversion to an Obama presidency and his remarks at the beginning of this thread are all the proof needed. You were twisting ALL day yesterday scott..??? Which reminds me, I need to get an Obama sign for the yard of my place here in Pa. I have a neighbor in this gated community who is a narc. A bigger racist (than he and his wifey) I've never seen. And if it pisses him off half as much as you, scott, my work here is done. I'll leave it up all winter for them to enjoy while I'm gone.. American sells itself as a melting pot. But the turnout in Berlin is very telling as to where the respect for all humans is given. Tina had it right moving to Europe..Hopefully, if Obama gets in, these haters will find another land to posion... On Jul 25, 7:29 am, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> wrote: > edspyhil...@yahoo.com, 7/24/2008,11:53:47 PM, wrote: > > On Jul 24, 6:15 pm, "Wickeddoll®" [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I think you misunderstood my post. Scott is a racist. He is apoplectic at the thought of a black man as the US President. No matter how articulate a person of color is, Scott hears, "I'ze you prezdent". Fat Moe also meant it as it sounded. They both are transparent. > Scott is a racist. He is >apoplectic at the thought of a black man as the US President The games of the LEFT..... I oppose Barry...not because he has a tan. Because he is STUPID and DANGEROUS! I'd love to have a competent black as president. Barry is NOT COMPETENT.... btw....I opposed John 'the traitor' Kerry damned near as hard as I'll oppose Barry. Last I checked, Kerry is white. It ain't the color....it is the person. SignatureScott in Florida One interpretation of Fat Moe's post - it's what Scott imagines in his thoughts all day and night. Scott is foaming at the mouth about Obama. Scott is the best example of how racism is stupid. All Scott can see is Obama's skin color. Scott is flooding the digest with anti-Obama posts. I'm ready to get down to the business of phone banking and knocking on doors for Obama. Just waiting for the real campaign to begin after Labor Day. ------------------------------ I agree. If it'll piss off the racists in this country the way it has Scott, I'm willing to ignore the abortion issue and vote for Obama. I don't think mccain is as clear on abortion as I'd like him to be either. Mccain couldn't even fill up the Kirby center here in Wilkes-barre, Pa...That's about 1500 seats! If Mccain can't carry racisit Pennsylvania, he's screwed.. It's ironic, mccain's about as white a man as I've seen run for pres. He makes Nixon look like Barry White.. > One interpretation of Fat Moe's post - it's what Scott imagines in his > thoughts all day and night. Scott is foaming at the mouth about Obama. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > It's ironic, mccain's about as white a man as I've seen run for pres. He > makes Nixon look like Barry White.. There is a very large new home near me, at least 6000 square feet. In the driveway sits a very large dodge pickup, the kind the green people love to hate, next to it is another SUV, the kind the green people love to hate. The yard is highly manicured, with a built-in sprinkler system wasting valuable water supply to keep the grass looking like a carpet. This owner clearly likes big toys and big houses with very carpet like lawns. Sitting in the front yard is the only obama lawn sign I've see so far. Seems funny that someone would own all that junk and waste so much fuel and water then claim to be a democrat which claims to be for the environment. Like so many of those on the far left you too are a hypocrite. -- nospam@nospam.moc (dbu) In article <23745-4889C273-785@storefull-3272.bawrote: There is a very large new home near me, at least 6000 square feet. In the driveway sits a very large dodge pickup, the kind the green people love to hate, next to it is another SUV, the kind the green people love to hate. The yard is highly manicured, with a built-in sprinkler system wasting valuable water supply to keep the grass looking like a carpet. This owner clearly likes big toys and big houses with very carpet like lawns. Sitting in the front yard is the only obama lawn sign I've see so far. Seems funny that someone would own all that junk and waste so much fuel and water then claim to be a democrat which claims to be for the environment. Like so many of those on the far left you too are a hypocrite. -- ----------------- I'm a republican... like Lincoln... But I love pissing off racists and for that matter..feminists (they have a lot in common). Actually the property you describe sounds like it's owned by a racist.. The wifey must have snuck that sign out there...? I have 2 homes that (when added together) don't add up to 3,000 S.F. I don't burn any kind of heat in the winter or AC in the summer. My spare vehicle at each place is a scooter and my car is going on 8 years old and is a 4 cyl... (maybe I qualify to be a Dim??) If voting for Obama will make the U.S. more like Germany in regard to how people respect each other's cultures (and gets people like you and scott to leave), I'll go with that as a huge step in the right direction... > nospam@nospam.moc (dbu) > In article <23745-4889C273-785@storefull-3272.bawrote: [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > scott to leave), I'll go with that as a huge step in the right > direction... We all respect each others cultures. Where the rub is for me is when the other culture tries to get me to buy into theirs. Respect yes, join, NO!! In America we speak ENGLISH, I expect that people who want to live here learn to speak it as I would try to learn french if I moved to France or some other country that has another language other than english. i would also want to learn and participate in their customs and cultures....over there, but not here. I'm happy to see you at least have a low carbon footprint. -- > > One interpretation of Fat Moe's post - it's what Scott imagines in his > > thoughts all day and night. Scott is foaming at the mouth about Obama. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Like so many of those on the far left you too are a hypocrite. > -- You make the typical mistake most righties make, thinking those of us left of center are not capitalists. WRONG! In article <a8411d37-7597-40fb-9571-1bdd2f5dfc51@u6g2000prc.googlegroups.com>, > > > One interpretation of Fat Moe's post - it's what Scott imagines in his > > > thoughts all day and night. Scott is foaming at the mouth about Obama. [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > You make the typical mistake most righties make, thinking those of us > left of center are not capitalists. WRONG! It went right over your head. I mentioned NOTHING about being a capitalist. Its message is about the hypocrisy of the left. -- > In article > <a8411d37-7597-40fb-9571-1bdd2f5dfc51@u6g2000prc.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > capitalist. Its message is about the hypocrisy of the left. > -- Well, DUH! Mr. English language Maven. Conspicuous consumption is so very American Capitalistic. No one consumes stuff like the US. You could house half a village in some of the mcmansions. Most families in the world can live very nicely in a minivan. The hypocracy is woven deeply in the fabric of our consumer culture and for each and every one of us. I thought you studied Zen or Buddhism - where's that critical thinking that study usually imparts? In article <864c21c0-453d-4bc0-8662-fd4fa5db05d5@a2g2000prm.googlegroups.com>, > > In article > > <a8411d37-7597-40fb-9571-1bdd2f5dfc51@u6g2000prc.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > and for each and every one of us. I thought you studied Zen or > Buddhism - where's that critical thinking that study usually imparts? The left shows their true colors yet again. Attack when stood up in a corner with pointy hat on. Why aren't you listening to Rush Limbaugh now, he's on the radio and it's open line Friday. You could call in and whine a little to him. -- >Hi there, I'se yo new president. It is..... I'ze..... SignatureScott in Florida "Scott in Florida" Fat Moe > wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I'ze..... Gawd, Scott. I can't believe you encourage this behavior. Natalie >"Scott in Florida" > Fat Moe [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Natalie Holy sh.t.... Don't we take ourselves seriously? Can't anybody laff anymore? gawd.... SignatureScott in Florida "Scott in Florida" "Wickeddoll®" >> Fat Moe >>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > gawd.... Oh, come on - that line is not just an insult to Obama. It insults every single black person on the planet. A line is crossed. I didn't mind all the slams you've been aiming at Obama as a candidate - he's fair game, but now you're insulting all of us. Natalie > "Scott in Florida" > "Wickeddoll®" [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Natalie OK OK, how about some Judy Garland & Micky Rooney? Surly I can't go with that? Actually some pretty good music here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwACyMmUL0Y&feature=related >"Scott in Florida" > "Wickeddoll®" [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >Natalie Jeez..... No f.cking sense of humour? gawd.... Yall come bak....U hare? SignatureScott in Florida "Scott in Florida" >> "Wickeddoll®" >>>> Fat Moe [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Yall come bak....U hare? I've been here for many years - I have a *great* sense of humor. I think I'm also very tolerant of race/sex jokes - that one was just insulting for all blacks; it inferred that a well-educated black person talks like a slave. It's hideous. Natalie > "Scott in Florida" >>> "Wickeddoll®" [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Natalie I think you are wasting your time, Nat. His true colors are out and not at all surprising to me. "Truckdude" ... > "Wickeddoll®"... >> [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > I think you are wasting your time, Nat. His true colors are out and not > at all surprising to me. :-( Natalie > "Truckdude" ... >> [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > Natalie I see that Scott has a call out to "mike hunt" for a stamp of approval. If "mike" gives it, then I guess that is supposed to make it all better? >>> I think you are wasting your time, Nat. His true colors are out and not >>> at all surprising to me. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >I see that Scott has a call out to "mike hunt" for a stamp of approval. If >"mike" gives it, then I guess that is supposed to make it all better? Of course it will.... ROFLMAO Nat made a STUPID statement. SignatureScott in Florida >>>> I think you are wasting your time, Nat. His true colors are out and >>>> not [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Nat made a STUPID statement. I don't see any response from "Mike" in your Hey Mike thread. And I see him posting in other threads around it. Left you hanging huh? "Truckdude" ... > "Scott in Florida" >>>>> I think you are wasting your time, Nat. His true colors are out and [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > I don't see any response from "Mike" in your Hey Mike thread. And I see > him posting in other threads around it. Left you hanging huh? *sigh* Here I thought he'd care more about my feelings than how harmless he thinks that insult was. Natalie >"Truckdude" ... >> [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > >Natalie Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww The Nat has no sense of humour.... So solly.... ROFLMAO SignatureScott in Florida >>"Truckdude" ... >>> [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > > ROFLMAO Keep on digging....... >>>"Truckdude" ... >>>> [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > >Keep on digging....... I shall..... SignatureScott in Florida >>"Truckdude" ... >>> [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > > ROFLMAO Any sense & regard for Natalie's objections/feelings, you'd have backed off & apologized. Instead of which you keep posting stuff which just digs a yet deeper hole, making it worse for yourself, & to a degree - her. Cathy >>>"Truckdude" ... >>>> [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > >Cathy BULLSHIT....... I can't be responsible for people that can't take a joke.... FEELINGS SignatureScott in Florida I think you are wasting your time, Nat. His true colors are out and not at all surprising to me. ------------------- Scott's losing it over Obama getting in. It's obvious what he is. You would have thought she'd have 'gotten' it before this thread. I knew about Scott before all of this as well. But the scary part is there are worse than Scott out there. That is why I fear for Obama's life..I may not vote for him (that whole abortion thing) but if he wins he should get what's his.. Guess she's doing the denial thang... I may be sexist but I rag on all women equally. Actually, if you talked to my dark skinned female friends they'd tell you it was an act. >> "Scott in Florida" >>>> "Wickeddoll®" [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >I think you are wasting your time, Nat. His true colors are out and not at >all surprising to me. What are my 'TRUE COLORS' truk? ROFLMAO SignatureScott in Florida >>> "Scott in Florida" >>>>> "Wickeddoll®" [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > ROFLMAO OK, I'll take a stab at it based on your posts here: racist old fart who when faced with his offensive behavior declares EVERYONE ELSE to be too sensitive and lacking a sense of humor you are not the one feeling belittled, so it simply doesn't matter you are usually able to keep it concealed, until a slip-up like this And of course should someone hit on something that does belittle you, then THAT will be hitting below the belt and WAAAYY different from what you do. Any of this hitting close to home? Not that you'd admit it...... I was raised down in Florida and half my family is from West Virginia. I am white guy who has seen your type most of my life. Don't try to play the innocent act with me. "Truckdude" ... > "Scott in Florida" >> >>> [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] > am white guy who has seen your type most of my life. Don't try to play > the innocent act with me. Whether the stupid line is funny isn't really the issue for me anymore, it's the lack of regard for the feelings of others. Natalie >"Truckdude" ... >> [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > >Natalie FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELINGS...... Oh My...... No sense of humour..... gawd. SignatureScott in Florida >>"Truckdude" ... >>> [quoted text clipped - 96 lines] > > gawd. and digging deeper still >racist ROFLMAO What was I when I helped John The Traitor Kerry lose the last election? racist? ROFLMAO SignatureScott in Florida On Jul 24, 10:24 pm, "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1...@yahoo.com> wrote: > "Scott in Florida" > [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I was talking with my lunch partners one day. They are from India. I was recounting race relations I encountered while growing up. One memory was my brother and I going to an integrated day camp during the summer. The day camp was for poor kids. We had that in common, at first. There were many places they couldn't take us because of this fact. ("Integrated" also meant Jewish kids.) We could only go to one pool in the whole city. When we went to Atantic City we could only go to the beach in the Inlet section. Blacks weren't "allowed" on the beaches from Atlantic City to Cape May. Philadelphia was strickly segregated - movies, bars, restaurants, pools, you name it. The guys from India thought I was making it all up. They kept asking incredulously, "In America?" It wasn't that long ago. >"Scott in Florida" >>> "Wickeddoll®" [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > >Natalie Oh BULLSHIT. Get over yourself..... SignatureScott in Florida > On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:24:42 -0400, "Wickeddoll®" > [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > > - Show quoted text - When presented with reality, it affects you, but you refuse to let anything change your point of view. I bet military service was your first experience with racial integrated living. On Jul 25, 6:05 am, Scott in Florida <Mov...@outa.here> wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:24:42 -0400, "Wickeddoll®" > [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > > - Show quoted text - When presented with reality, it affects you, but you refuse to let anything change your point of view. I bet military service was your first experience with racial integrated living. And I can well imagine that Snott hated every minute of it. and having to salute a black naval officer must have made him gnash his teeth each and every time. I reiterate my remark of some time ago, that Snott is a Florida 'cracker'...no more, no less. > On Jul 25, 6:05 am, Scott in Florida <Mov...@outa.here> wrote: >> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:24:42 -0400, "Wickeddoll®" [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] > I reiterate my remark of some time ago, that Snott is a Florida > 'cracker'...no more, no less. I don't understand why you can use a patently racist term like cracker in reference to a white man when the patently racist term of nigger in reference to black men is known to incite riots. For a person with such a low tolerance for racist terms, it strikes me as odd that you would consistantly (almost constantly) use a racist term. You are Imus in reverse. Well, no. that's not accurate. White people don't go around calling each other by a known racist term so that we can get mad when somebody else uses the term on us. You're not like Imus at all. You're more like Jesse Jackson, you can bitch and complain about racism, then use racist descriptions when you think the mic is off. >> On Jul 25, 6:05 am, Scott in Florida <Mov...@outa.here> wrote: >>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:24:42 -0400, "Wickeddoll®" [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] > reference to a white man when the patently racist term of nigger in > reference to black men is known to incite riots. Agreed, you don't understand. You ever consider that your lack of understanding may be the root of your problem? >> I don't understand why you can use a patently racist term like cracker in >> reference to a white man when the patently racist term of nigger in >> reference to black men is known to incite riots. > > Agreed, you don't understand. You ever consider that your lack of > understanding may be the root of your problem? I suppose you know what my "problem" is. Explain to me how it's MY problem that he can offend but be protected from offense. > > On Jul 25, 6:05 am, Scott in Florida <Mov...@outa.here> wrote: > >> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:24:42 -0400, "Wickeddoll®" [quoted text clipped - 95 lines] > like Jesse Jackson, you can bitch and complain about racism, then use racist > descriptions when you think the mic is off. Mack is in the early stages of.....old timers, timers forgets etc ailment. -- "Jeff Strickland"... > "mack" >> <edspyhill01@yahoo.com> Scott in Florida "Wickeddoll®" >>> <wickeddollnofeckingspam1...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 93 lines] > You're more like Jesse Jackson, you can bitch and complain about racism, > then use racist descriptions when you think the mic is off. I agree with Jeff on this one - two wrongs don't make a right. Natalie > "Jeff Strickland"... >> [quoted text clipped - 104 lines] > > Natalie Nat, I urge you to look at the definition of "Florida Cracker" in Wikipedia. It's not a pejorative at all, but you'll be interested in finding out that ..... well, just look it up. >> "Jeff Strickland"... >>> [quoted text clipped - 110 lines] > Wikipedia. It's not a pejorative at all, but you'll be interested in > finding out that ..... well, just look it up. I've looked it up. You are not calling Scott a Florida Cracker, you are just calling him a cracker, which is nigger-speak for honky, which is a wholly racist term You are actively using a racist term, and you _know_ it. And I know it. And everybody else knows it. > You are not calling Scott a Florida Cracker, you are just calling him > a cracker, which is nigger-speak for honky, which is a wholly racist > term You are actively using a racist term, and you know it. And I > know it. And everybody else knows it. I don't think Scott is offended. He and his mother have been called much worse things. Think back to bootcamp. >> You are not calling Scott a Florida Cracker, you are just calling him >> a cracker, which is nigger-speak for honky, which is a wholly racist [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I don't think Scott is offended. He and his mother have been called > much worse things. Think back to bootcamp. It's not about Scott's feelings. It's not about me either. It's about starting a riot when one is called a racist term, then turning around and using an equally racist term and hiding behind a subtlety of an entirely different term. Scott is a big boy, he can express his own righteous indignation if he wants to. Mack is the baby here, hoping his mother will wrap her skirts around him and protect him from his own racism. "mack" ... > "Wickeddoll®" ... >> [quoted text clipped - 106 lines] > Wikipedia. It's not a pejorative at all, but you'll be interested in > finding out that ..... well, just look it up. Wiki only reinforces what I've said all along; it's not supposed to be, but - it has been turned into a slur: may refer to: Cracker (food), a thin crisp biscuit or wafer, usually salted or savoury Christmas cracker, traditional British Christmas toy or decoration which gives a loud 'crack' when opened Atlanta Crackers, an American baseball team from Atlanta Georgia Florida cracker, an American pioneer settler of the 19th century in the state of Florida Georgia cracker, an American pioneer settler of the 19th century in the state of Georgia Cracker butterflies, a genus of butterfly from the Neotropics Cracker (pejorative), an abusive or slang term for a white person Software cracker, someone who circumvents copy protection in computer software a catalytic cracker used in oil refineries, see Fluid catalytic cracking a short length of twisted twine or string attached to the end of a whip to produce a cracking sound another name for a firecracker a device used to open small compressed gas cartridges such as whipped-cream chargers a person who carries out illegal safe cracking in computing, cracker may refer to a black hat computer hacker password cracking, the process of recovering passwords from data that has been stored in or transmitted by a computer system. When I was growing up, "cracker" was equal to "honky" and was only used when referring to whites. It was a very inflammatory term then, and to an extent, still is. Had you have called Scott a redneck, it actually is pretty much the same thing - a derogatory term for whites. Natalie > When I was growing up, "cracker" was equal to "honky" and was only used > when referring to whites. It was a very inflammatory term then, and to an > extent, still is. Had you have called Scott a redneck, it actually is > pretty much the same thing - a derogatory term for whites. > > Natalie However, there's no shame in being a good redneck -- if there is such a thing. Being called "cracker" is a slur. "Jeff Strickland" ... > "Wickeddoll®"... >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > However, there's no shame in being a good redneck -- if there is such a > thing. Being called "cracker" is a slur. True - some of my best friends are rednecks. ;-) Natalie > Had you have called Scott a redneck, it actually is pretty much the > same thing - a derogatory term for whites. Rednecks don't find the term offensive. Some of my best friends are rednecks... > > Had you have called Scott a redneck, it actually is pretty much the > > same thing - a derogatory term for whites. > > Rednecks don't find the term offensive. Some of my best friends are > rednecks... Don't bother me either. Nor does the slang "polock", nor does a few other slangs aimed at me or my heritage. -- "dbu" >> > Had you have called Scott a redneck, it actually is pretty much the >> > same thing - a derogatory term for whites. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Don't bother me either. Nor does the slang "polock", nor does a few > other slangs aimed at me or my heritage. See my other response on redneck, but my (100%) Polish hubby doesn't allow anyone to call him polack - unless it's a fellow Pole. That's the same double standard some blacks use for the n-word. I say both phrases are wrong, no matter *who* says it. Natalie >"dbu" >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Natalie You might want to remind your hubby that the proper phrase is "Taking offense". In other words, I can't offend him if he won't let me. He is the one who controls whether or not he is offended, not me. I could call him every name in the book and if he decided that I was a fool, he wouldn't be offended by my stupidity. Jack "Retired VIP" "Wickeddoll®" >>"dbu" >>>> > Had you have called Scott a redneck, it actually is pretty much the [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Jack He would if he *thought* you were a friend. Natalie > "dbu" > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Natalie Did you and hubby see the movie "The Pianist"? If not I highly recommend it. -- "dbu" > "Wickeddoll®" >> >> > Had you have called Scott a redneck, it actually is pretty much the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Did you and hubby see the movie "The Pianist"? If not I highly > recommend it. It's probably a good film, but the director, though talented, is a statutory rapist, who didn't have the guts to face up to his actions. (yeah, I know she forgave him, but that's not the point at all) No thanks. Natalie > "dbu" > > "Wickeddoll®" [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Natalie Bah, forget that. Amazing how people remember and at the same time forget. It's a very good movie, I suggest you watch it, it's on DVD. -- "dbu" < > "Wickeddoll®" >> >> >> > Had you have called Scott a redneck, it actually is pretty much [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > Bah, forget that. Amazing how people remember and at the same time > forget. It's a very good movie, I suggest you watch it, it's on DVD. Not going to happen, but thanks for the recommendation. Natalie > When I was growing up, "cracker" was equal to "honky" and was only used > when referring to whites. It was a very inflammatory term then, and to an > extent, still is. Had you have called Scott a redneck, it actually is > pretty much the same thing - a derogatory term for whites. > > Natalie Nat, of all the definitions you gave, the one I called Snott was "Florida Cracker", which, as you note, is simply a term for an original Florida settler....and I did so because I believe that Snott has been trapped in the backwaters of Florida since he helped lay out the street grid of St. Augustine, the oldest city in the US. As for being a redneck, I don't think Snott could be called a redneck, because no self-respecting redneck would ever lower himself to be on the same plane as our pal, Snott. Snott's much too stupid to be a redneck. >> When I was growing up, "cracker" was equal to "honky" and was only used >> when referring to whites. It was a very inflammatory term then, and to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Nat, of all the definitions you gave, the one I called Snott was "Florida > Cracker", You did not call him Florida Cracker. He lives in Florida, but you just called him cracker, and let his state of residence fill in the blank. The trouble is, florida cracker and cracker are two distinctly different terms. > When I was growing up, "cracker" was equal to "honky" and was only used > when referring to whites. It was a very inflammatory term then, and to an > extent, still is. Had you have called Scott a redneck, it actually is > pretty much the same thing - a derogatory term for whites. > > Natalie I think your term "cracker" pertains to being a "whip-cracker", implying that the individual so named was a slavemaster or boss, cracking the whip. In Snott's case, it takes two hands to hold up his adult Depends, so he'd not have a free hand to hold onto a whip. The scary part is he's not the only one who lost their minds while Obama was standing in front of 200k Germans/Europeans. I am amazed a how racist and bitter many republicans came across yesterday.. I think it hit them that the white house is lost and lost for 8 years. Instead of being happy that the U.S. appears to have found someone who can unite the world and change the opinion of the U.S in the world's eyes, you got the sense they were rummaging around in their attics for their rifle scopes in between negative blogs.. I now see how the republicans got their reputation in the black community..I thought hillary's bunch were sore losers. But it looks like the republicans are going to make (even) her look like a good sport.. > The scary part is he's not the only one who lost their minds while > Obama was standing in front of 200k Germans/Europeans. I am amazed a [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > like the republicans are going to make (even) her look like a good > sport.. The facts do not support you. 1.) All of the polling data today puts the race at too-close-to-call. Obama leads by a number that is less than the margin of error on these kinds of things. The best he has been is at 5 points, with a margin of 3 points. That was two weeks ago. The problem for Obama is that he's not winning against a guy that by all appearances is boring us to death. Obam should be ahead by double digits. 2.) Obama does not need votes from around the world, he needs them from voters right here at home. It does not matter what France thinks. 3.) It is a common liberal tactic to engage in calling the other side race baiting when liberals start to believe they are loosing the discussion/battle/race/argument. You brought race to the table, nobody is playing the race card except you. 4.) Those 200k people in Germany were there for a concert anyhow. Obama was a side show. And, for a large crowd, they did not make very much noise. 5.) I've seen e-mail messages from the front lines, and Obama was _not_ very friendly towards the troops. 6.) Obama passed on a chance to visit wounded troops. For a guy with no military experience, he should be far more public in embracing the very troops he is campaigning to lead into battle. Obama made several mis-steps in the past two weeks. He has an uphill battle to win the election. The facts do not support you. 1.) All of the polling data today puts the race at too-close-to-call. Obama leads by a number that is less than the margin of error on these kinds of things. The best he has been is at 5 points, with a margin of 3 points. That was two weeks ago. The problem for Obama is that he's not winning against a guy that by all appearances is boring us to death. Obam should be ahead by double digits. 2.) Obama does not need votes from around the world, he needs them from voters right here at home. It does not matter what France thinks. 3.) It is a common liberal tactic to engage in calling the other side race baiting when liberals start to believe they are loosing the discussion/battle/race/argument. You brought race to the table, nobody is playing the race card except you. 4.) Those 200k people in Germany were there for a concert anyhow. Obama was a side show. And, for a large crowd, they did not make very much noise. 5.) I've seen e-mail messages from the front lines, and Obama was _not_ very friendly towards the troops. 6.) Obama passed on a chance to visit wounded troops. For a guy with no military experience, he should be far more public in embracing the very troops he is campaigning to lead into battle. Obama made several mis-steps in the past two weeks. He has an uphill battle to win the election. ========================== Contrast Obama's visit to Germany to when Bush goes there.. Don't they flip cars and burn sh.t when he's in the neighborhood...? I know Europeans to be respectful when they care to hear what you have to say.... For a just being a candidate, there sure was a lot of people. And judging by the squirming I (and a lot of others ) see among the racist, redneck fringe they know it's over polls or not.... I guess we'll see. But I'd be willing to bet a lot of people wont admit (in meaningless polls) they're for Obama because of racism.. I've got nothing against Mccain, except as you said he's boring as heck. But if it's going to piss off the racists, It'd be fun to watch them take their medicine.. Time for 'Dr. Who' <<-----love that show.. > The facts do not support you. > 1.) All of the polling data today puts the race at too-close-to-call. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Contrast Obama's visit to Germany to when Bush goes there.. Don't they > flip cars and burn sh.t when he's in the neighborhood...? So what? The issue is what they do in America. Right now, Obama is not the hottest thing going. The sad thing is, neither is McCain, but Obama is putting in far more energy to be a dud. > > The facts do not support you. > > 1.) All of the polling data today puts the race at too-close-to-call. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > thing going. The sad thing is, neither is McCain, but Obama is putting in > far more energy to be a dud. All this rubbish will be distant memory come October. -- nospam@nospam.moc (dbu) So what? The issue is what they do in America. Right now, Obama is not the hottest thing going. The sad thing is, neither is McCain, but Obama is putting in far more energy to be a dud. All this rubbish will be distant memory come October. ------------------------------------ Yes it will.... Are you saying mccain is going to win...!?! Is the real estate very expensive in your waterfront neighborhood along the nile..? NBC said it's 49-40 ...in the latest poll. But I bet you already know that.. > nospam@nospam.moc (dbu) > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > NBC said it's 49-40 ...in the latest poll. But I bet you already know > that.. Are you saying he's going to lose? -- > For a guy with no military experience, Like the military experience of: Ronald Reagan (played solders in the movies)? Richard Nixon? George W, Bush? Dick Cheney? Or their supporters: Everybody on the right, on Fox news, Neo-cons, Senators and Congresman. I guess we've become Sparta. If military experience is the single most defining experience for Americans why isn't there a draft, especially one that that drafts rich people and doesn't give out deferments? In article <f8cacf2a-83f4-4faf-821c-1539109f79e7@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>, > > For a guy with no military experience, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > especially one that that drafts rich people and doesn't give out > deferments? RR no military Nixon, Navy GWB, USAF DC no military So you are 50% right and 50% wrong. -- > RR no military > Nixon, Navy [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > - Show quoted text - . > GWB, USAF Reserves, and he never completed his flight training. But let's not start up this endless discussion about Dubya the rich bitch slacker who has failed at everything. But we can't ignore all the supporting warmongering people out there, like Billow, Sean, Gibson, everyone at PNAC, Kristal - father and son, Rumsfeld, etc, etc. Still drinking the Cool-Aid, AH? On Jul 26, 8:28 am, dbu <nos...@nospam.moc> wrote: > RR no military > Nixon, Navy [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > - Show quoted text - . > GWB, USAF Reserves, and he never completed his flight training. But let's not start up this endless discussion about Dubya the rich bitch slacker who has failed at everything. But we can't ignore all the supporting warmongering people out there, like Billow, Sean, Gibson, everyone at PNAC, Kristal - father and son, Rumsfeld, etc, etc. In article <4745ac95-19a0-4a53-b11f-5b5cba538dca@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, > > RR no military > > Nixon, Navy [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > like Billow, Sean, Gibson, everyone at PNAC, Kristal - father and son, > Rumsfeld, etc, etc. "never completed flight training"?????? Better re-check your information bud. He was in the Air Guard NOT reserves. Anyway, I don't feel you know what you are talking about. -- >> For a guy with no military experience, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >George W, Bush? >Dick Cheney? Yes like George W. Bush. He served in the military.... SignatureScott in Florida >4.) Those 200k people in Germany were there for a concert anyhow. Obama was >a side show. And, for a large crowd, they did not make very much noise. ....cause the beer was flowing. If they had run out of beer...that would have been another story. Every been to Germany? SignatureScott in Florida > The scary part is he's not the only one who lost their minds while > Obama was standing in front of 200k Germans/Europeans. I am amazed a [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > like the republicans are going to make (even) her look like a good > sport.. I saved this posting for future use, LOL. -- nospam@nospam.moc (dbu) I saved this posting for future use, LOL. -- ---------------- How icelandic of you.. This is one black man who believes the Dims cry of racism every time Obama is challenged on some of the lefty goofy stuff he says and does, is part of the Obama campaigns plan to thwart any criticism. Listen to some of the things he wants to do. He is a socialist who will ruin this county by trying to make us like Europe. Listen to his plans to cut the military and to eliminate future weapon systems, as did Carter and Clinton. I certainly will not vote for another black man simply because he is black as so many other blacks apparently want to do. If you doubt that look at the average of over 95% of the blacks who voted for him in the various primaries. Voting against someone because he is not "like you" is wrong, but voting for someone simply because he IS like you is far worse > The scary part is he's not the only one who lost their minds while > Obama was standing in front of 200k Germans/Europeans. I am amazed a [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > like the republicans are going to make (even) her look like a good > sport.. mikehunt22@lycos.com (Mike hunt) This is one black man who believes the Dims cry of racism every time Obama is challenged on some of the lefty goofy stuff he says and does, is part of the Obama campaigns plan to thwart any criticism. Listen to some of the things he wants to do. He is a socialist who will ruin this county by trying to make us like Europe. Listen to his plans to cut the military and to eliminate future weapon systems, as did Carter and Clinton. I certainly will not vote for another black man simply because he is black as so many other blacks apparently want to do. If you doubt that look at the average of over 95% of the blacks who voted for him in the various primaries. Voting against someone because he is not "like you" is wrong, but voting for someone simply because he IS like you is far worse ----------------------------- If you're talkin' about me ( and I'm still not sure), according to the U.S. gov. I'm white. My ex girlfriends and customers call me a 'wigger'. I will say this , for a black man Barry is not very black. When it comes to behavior, I make Barry look like John Kerry. But I think the consenses in the black community is they'll take him even though he's really not very black. > mikehunt22@lycos.com (Mike hunt) > This is one black man who believes the Dims cry of racism every time [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > consenses in the black community is they'll take him even though he's > really not very black. Barrack is half white. How can we make him 33.3 percent of each, white, black and olive colored, .1 percent everything else. Skin color is everything, I guess. -- Another thing about racism. There are black people who are racist. It's important to say this because sometimes it gets lost in the discussion. And then we have the 'non' racist people who are hypocrites. For example, I have friends and customers who are black and have a Bahamian heritage. One particular child of one of my customers is funny as hell. If I were to imply she was interested in a Haitian dude she'd call me a whole bunch of names. Apparently, according to her, Haitians are way below her and 'they smell'. Now if a white person were to 'dis' this same girl in a racist way she'd be screaming racism at the top of her 'substantial' lungs. LOL And this, of course, also goes on with whites .. I get Irish people hating me just because I look very Italian. I've never met them or spoken to them, yet they hate me at sight.. These same people might tell you they like black people.. But they're 'non' racist racists just the same.. Some people are very specific in their hatred. Personally,. .. I hate everyone equally..8>) > Another thing about racism. There are black people who are racist. It's > important to say this because sometimes it gets lost in the discussion. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Some people are very specific in their hatred. Personally,. .. I hate > everyone equally..8>) And for those with a sense of humor, I guess that leaves out you know who, http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=32109 I my circle of friends the blacks seem to be more racist than the white when it comes to black and white racism. I say to other blacks, if you believe the white man today is holding down us blacks why do so many support black artists, actors, sport figures etc. and why are they not holding down other minorities like Koreans, Asians and Mexican who are doing so well in this country, if whites are indeed racists? I have yet to hear one black give me a cognizant answer. >> Another thing about racism. There are black people who are racist. It's >> important to say this because sometimes it gets lost in the discussion. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > who, > http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=32109 mikehunt22@lycos.com (Mike hunt) I my circle of friends the blacks seem to be more racist than the white when it comes to black and white racism. I say to other blacks, if you believe the white man today is holding down us blacks why do so many support black artists, actors, sport figures etc. and why are they not holding down other minorities like Koreans, Asians and Mexican who are doing so well in this country, if whites are indeed racists? I have yet to hear one black give me a cognizant answer. ====================== Us blacks...? Now you're black...Dude ..you talk more like a senile of' white guy than anything else...I think you're drunk again...You've got a home in the south and one in the north and all these cars and businesses and now you got the whole interracial thing goin on. I hope we don't start talking about sex change operations...Who knows what you'll come up with ... Duh! I was taking about myself and stating my opinion >> mikehunt22@lycos.com (Mike hunt) >> This is one black man who believes the Dims cry of racism every time [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > black and olive colored, .1 percent everything else. Skin color is > everything, I guess. > Duh! I was taking about myself and stating my opinion > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > black and olive colored, .1 percent everything else. Skin color is > > everything, I guess. I was referring to the other guy/gal or whatever, intodark I guess, NOT Mike Hunt. -- When does one stop being black today? I list myself as a Native American because I, my parents and grandparents were all born in the US Two of my four grand parents were black. My mother was white and my father black. My wife is white. Since they are more white than black, I told my children to list themselves as white and never as black. mikehunt22@lycos.com (Mike hunt) This is one black man who believes the Dims cry of racism every time Obama is challenged on some of the lefty goofy stuff he says and does, is part of the Obama campaigns plan to thwart any criticism. Listen to some of the things he wants to do. He is a socialist who will ruin this county by trying to make us like Europe. Listen to his plans to cut the military and to eliminate future weapon systems, as did Carter and Clinton. I certainly will not vote for another black man simply because he is black as so many other blacks apparently want to do. If you doubt that look at the average of over 95% of the blacks who voted for him in the various primaries. Voting against someone because he is not "like you" is wrong, but voting for someone simply because he IS like you is far worse ----------------------------- If you're talkin' about me ( and I'm still not sure), according to the U.S. gov. I'm white. My ex girlfriends and customers call me a 'wigger'. I will say this , for a black man Barry is not very black. When it comes to behavior, I make Barry look like John Kerry. But I think the consenses in the black community is they'll take him even though he's really not very black. > When does one stop being black today? I list myself as a Native > American because I, my parents and grandparents were all born in the US I'm Native American because I can trace my ancestory back to the Jamestown colony. My peeps were movers and shakers with Capt. Smith and Pocohantas. > I agree with Jeff on this one - two wrongs don't make a right. No, but three rights do make a left... "badgolferman" ... >> I agree with Jeff on this one - two wrongs don't make a right. > > No, but three rights do make a left... :-P Natalie > Wickeddoll�, 7/25/2008,6:34:05 PM, wrote: > > > I agree with Jeff on this one - two wrongs don't make a right. > > No, but three rights do make a left... That's deep. > On Jul 25, 6:05 am, Scott in Florida <Mov...@outa.here> wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:24:42 -0400, "Wickeddoll®" [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] > I reiterate my remark of some time ago, that Snott is a Florida > 'cracker'...no more, no less. I hated to salute old fat bastards, because I knew they sat on their a.ses more than they got out where the work was performed. -- >On Jul 25, 6:05 am, Scott in Florida <Mov...@outa.here> wrote: >> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:24:42 -0400, "Wickeddoll®" [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] >I reiterate my remark of some time ago, that Snott is a Florida >'cracker'...no more, no less. ROFLMAO You are a piece of work.... SignatureScott in Florida >> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:24:42 -0400, "Wickeddoll®" >> [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] >anything change your point of view. I bet military service was your >first experience with racial integrated living. You would be wrong...... SignatureScott in Florida "Scott in Florida" "Wickeddoll®" >> "Wickeddoll®" >>>>>> Fat Moe [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > Get over yourself..... If that's the way you want it, fine. Natalie |
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