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mack - 29 Aug 2008 18:34 GMT
I'm elated that McLame has picked Palin as his vice-presidential candidate.
If I ever got drunk enough to vote for McShame, I'd think twice about
picking a guy who's had a bad cancer (and other?) health problems, who's 72
years of age, who seems to be losing it mentally with many errors which
could mean early senility, and whose backup is a woman whose only real claim
to fame is that she was mayor of a town in Alaska which seems to be the
model for the town in "Northern Exposure".
Oh yeah, I forgot, she's also nailed a full year and a half as the state's
governor, and was runner up to Miss Alaska in a beauty contest two decades
ago....and we all know that beauty contest winners have really high IQs.
"My wish is for the world to have peace and love, and that Santa visits all
the starving children."

This nomination for v p is the last nail in the old man's coffin.   It's
Obama and Biden for certain!   I'm elated.
Scott  in  Florida - 29 Aug 2008 18:47 GMT
>I'm elated that McLame has picked Palin as his vice-presidential candidate.
>If I ever got drunk enough to vote for McShame, I'd think twice about
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>This nomination for v p is the last nail in the old man's coffin.   It's
>Obama and Biden for certain!   I'm elated.

ROFLMAO

Right.....

btw this is OT...

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mack - 29 Aug 2008 20:26 GMT
>>I'm elated that McLame has picked Palin as his vice-presidential
>>candidate.
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> btw this is OT...

Scotty,  you and your replicant friends have spent so much time spewing
politics on this TOYOTA ng, that I suspect OT should mean ON topic for it.
Wickeddoll® - 29 Aug 2008 18:49 GMT
"mack" ...
> I'm elated that McLame has picked Palin as his vice-presidential
> candidate.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> This nomination for v p is the last nail in the old man's coffin.   It's
> Obama and Biden for certain!   I'm elated.

Dunno about that, but it's pretty clear he's trying to woo Hillary's
leftover voters, by choosing a woman who is nearly HRC's (on the surface,
anyway) clone.

Natalie
mack - 29 Aug 2008 20:27 GMT
> "mack" ...
>> I'm elated that McLame has picked Palin as his vice-presidential
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Natalie
Of course, anything in a skirt (or a pants suit) is McCain's last hope.    A
pity that he picked a clear apprentice.
Jeff - 30 Aug 2008 05:00 GMT
> > "mack" ...
> >> I'm elated that McLame has picked Palin as his vice-presidential
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> Of course, anything in a skirt (or a pants suit) is McCain's last hope.    A
> pity that he picked a clear apprentice.

Gov. Pilan has the same amount of experience Pres. Bush did and is
only 2 years younger than Sen. Obama. While, like Sen. Obama, she does
not a have a lot of foreign relations experience, she has also run a
state; few, if any, of the Senators running for VP or Pres. have a lot
of executive experience.

Jeff
Hachiroku ハチロク - 30 Aug 2008 05:06 GMT
>> Of course, anything in a skirt (or a pants suit) is McCain's last hope.    A
>> pity that he picked a clear apprentice.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Jeff

Jeeze, Jeff, is this a defense?
Jeff - 30 Aug 2008 05:39 GMT
> >> Of course, anything in a skirt (or a pants suit) is McCain's last hope.    A
> >> pity that he picked a clear apprentice.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Jeeze, Jeff, is this a defense?

No. It is a comparison between candidates. Even though I like Obama,
because, IMHO, is the smartest person running and will be the best
President, facts are facts.

Jeff
Hachiroku ハチロク - 30 Aug 2008 15:23 GMT
>> >> Of course, anything in a skirt (or a pants suit) is McCain's last hope.    A
>> >> pity that he picked a clear apprentice.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Jeff

But, you're comparing Palin to Obama.

You should be comparing Palin to Biden. But then, there's no comparison,
is there? A party hack opposed to a woman with a brain.

But, seriously a comparison between Palin and Biden is more fitting, since
McCain will probably suffer a stroke (sorry...stolen from "Commander In
Chief", if you remember that short lived series with my Amazon Goddess)
and Barack is probably going to be lynched somewhere below the Mason-Dixon...
tak - 30 Aug 2008 17:13 GMT
>> On Aug 30, 12:06 am, Hachiroku ???? <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote:
>>> >> Of course, anything in a skirt (or a pants suit) is McCain's last
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> You should be comparing Palin to Biden. But then, there's no comparison,
> is there? A party hack opposed to a woman with a brain.

**Come on, Hachi, that isn't what you would be comparing, now, would it?

> But, seriously a comparison between Palin and Biden is more fitting, since
> McCain will probably suffer a stroke (sorry...stolen from "Commander In
> Chief", if you remember that short lived series with my Amazon Goddess)
> and Barack is probably going to be lynched somewhere below the
> Mason-Dixon...
mack - 30 Aug 2008 07:56 GMT
On Aug 29, 3:27 pm, "mack" <macke...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> Of course, anything in a skirt (or a pants suit) is McCain's last hope. A
> pity that he picked a clear apprentice.

Gov. Pilan has the same amount of experience Pres. Bush did and is
only 2 years younger than Sen. Obama. While, like Sen. Obama, she does
not a have a lot of foreign relations experience, she has also run a
state; few, if any, of the Senators running for VP or Pres. have a lot
of executive experience.

Jeff

No kidding, Jeff?   She doesn't have a lot of
foreign relations experience?  Why I thought she'd be
at least aware that Europe is East and Japan is West of us.
The only thing I know about her is that she has five children, the youngest
being four months....and her eldest, a son, goes to Iraq next month.   And
the fact that she wants to get polar bears taken OFF the endangered species
list.   and guess what?  she's a hunter of moose (and polar bears when the
time arrives?) and is a life member of the NRA.
And that's quite enough for me to know about the lady.
She's pro gun and pro life.   and it 's bye bye from me.
Scott  in  Florida - 30 Aug 2008 11:15 GMT
>She's pro gun and pro life.   and it 's bye bye from me.

So  you hate kids in the womb and guns....

....and you are interested in my shorts.

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Jeff - 30 Aug 2008 18:28 GMT
> On Aug 29, 3:27 pm, "mack" <macke...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 50 lines]
> And that's quite enough for me to know about the lady.
> She's pro gun and pro life.   and it 's bye bye from me.

I am not going to let someone's opinion on something that is not going
to affect many of us (in this case pro-gun and anti-choice - pro life
really means against abortion and the death penalty) sway my opinion
one way or the other. Considering that we all depend on the
environment for life and man has had major impacts on the environment
by destroying rain forests, degrading water quality, depleting fresh
water supplies, changing many ecosystems and wiping thousands of
species off the plant, I would include the environment with other
major qualifications, including foreign policy, the military,
education and the economy. Her views on guns and abortion pale in
comparison.

Jeff
mack - 31 Aug 2008 00:40 GMT
"Jeff" <jeff.utz@gmail.com> wrote in message I am not going to let someone's
opinion on something that is not going
to affect many of us (in this case pro-gun and anti-choice - pro life
really means against abortion and the death penalty)

I understand that she's quite satisfied with the death penalty.   You can't
kill 'em at the front end of life, but the back end of life is fine and
dandy.   A true "Christian", huh?

And I really don't want to see (as she evidently does)
polar bears being shot, especially from airplanes.
To me, she's on the wrong side of almost every issue....and that's
disturbing.   She's of course an evangelical Christian, (big surprise!) and
doesn't apparently mind getting in people's faces about it.
We can ezpect a whole lot more prayer breakfasts
in DC if she gets in.   (shudder)
Jeff - 30 Aug 2008 04:57 GMT
On Aug 29, 1:49 pm, "Wickeddoll®"
<wickeddollnofeckingspam1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "mack" ...
>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Natalie

A clone? Gov. Pilan doesn't know what the VP does, doesn't understand
that global warming is real, and does not support abortion rights.

You might want to look up the definition of clone on the internet.

Jeff
Hachiroku ハチロク - 30 Aug 2008 05:05 GMT
>> Dunno about that, but it's pretty clear he's trying to woo Hillary's
>> leftover voters, by choosing a woman who is nearly HRC's (on the surface,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> A clone? Gov. Pilan doesn't know what the VP does, doesn't understand
> that global warming is real, and does not support abortion rights.

1. I'm sure she'll figure it out.

2. Al Gore thinks global warming is real.

3. Who cares?

On MSNBC tonight some talking head says she wants to melt the arctic.

Right.
Jeff - 30 Aug 2008 05:36 GMT
> >> Dunno about that, but it's pretty clear he's trying to woo Hillary's
> >> leftover voters, by choosing a woman who is nearly HRC's (on the surface,
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> 1. I'm sure she'll figure it out.

What makes you so sure? What do you know about her?

> 2. Al Gore thinks global warming is real.

So does Pres. Bush.

> 3. Who cares?

Intelligent voters, so they can make an informed decision.

> On MSNBC tonight some talking head says she wants to melt the arctic.
>
> Right.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 30 Aug 2008 15:19 GMT
>> >> Dunno about that, but it's pretty clear he's trying to woo Hillary's
>> >> leftover voters, by choosing a woman who is nearly HRC's (on the surface,
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> What makes you so sure? What do you know about her?

Quite a bit. You know how a lot of TV shows pick women spokespeople? While
the Democrats are usually wasting time, she often speaks for the
Republicans. You should hear her; she has a brain of her own, instead of a
shared one.

>> 2. Al Gore thinks global warming is real.
>
> So does Pres. Bush.

But a lot of scientists dissent.

>> 3. Who cares?
>
> Intelligent voters, so they can make an informed decision.

I don't give one whit about abortion. With all the other issues with which
to contend, abortion should be at the bottom of the list, but
Democrats have this tendency to put it as a priority issue. Like I said,
who cares? By the time they get done cleaning up the mess, it'll be
election time again, and then abortion can become a non-issue again.

Abortion is a non-issue, except to Democrats. Roe v Wade was passed 37
years ago. It hasn't been overturned yet, and most likely never will.
Find another issue to whine about.

>> On MSNBC tonight some talking head says she wants to melt the arctic.
>>
>> Right.
Jeff - 30 Aug 2008 18:35 GMT
> >> >> Dunno about that, but it's pretty clear he's trying to woo Hillary's
> >> >> leftover voters, by choosing a woman who is nearly HRC's (on the surface,
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> years ago. It hasn't been overturned yet, and most likely never will.
> Find another issue to whine about.

Really? A lot of right-wing people make abortion the central issue,
particularly Christians.
Cathy F. - 30 Aug 2008 18:43 GMT
>> On Aug 30, 12:05 am, Hachiroku ???? <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote:
>>> >> Dunno about that, but it's pretty clear he's trying to woo Hillary's
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> Abortion is a non-issue, except to Democrats.

And Democrats comprise what percentage of the voting population?

  Roe v Wade was passed 37
> years ago. It hasn't been overturned yet, and most likely never will.

The Supreme Court's make up is getting kinda scary...

Cathy

> Find another issue to whine about.
>
>>> On MSNBC tonight some talking head says she wants to melt the arctic.
>>>
>>> Right.
Jeff - 30 Aug 2008 19:42 GMT
On Aug 30, 1:43 pm, "Cathy F." <clfrc...@adelphiadotdashdot.net>
wrote:
> "Hachiroku ????" <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 53 lines]
>
> >>> Right.

Or, to the antiabortionists, better.

Jeff
Scott  in  Florida - 30 Aug 2008 11:17 GMT
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:05:00 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@e86.GTS>
wrote:

>On MSNBC tonight some talking head says she wants to melt the arctic.

LOL....MSNBC

Always good for a laff

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Wickeddoll® - 30 Aug 2008 05:46 GMT
"Jeff"
"Wickeddoll®"
wrote:
> "mack" ...
>
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> Natalie

A clone? Gov. Pilan doesn't know what the VP does, doesn't understand
that global warming is real, and does not support abortion rights.

You might want to look up the definition of clone on the internet.

Jeff

Maybe a better word would be consolation prize for the die-hard Hillarites.

Natalie
tak - 30 Aug 2008 17:31 GMT
> "Jeff"
> "Wickeddoll®"
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
>
> Natalie
And for the fanatical right. Think she cooks the Moose meat?
Mark - 29 Aug 2008 18:54 GMT
How incredibly shallow (but expected) of you to show your ignorance in
declaring that beautiful women can't have any brains...

> I'm elated that McLame has picked Palin as his vice-presidential candidate.
> If I ever got drunk enough to vote for McShame, I'd think twice about
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> This nomination for v p is the last nail in the old man's coffin.   It's
> Obama and Biden for certain!   I'm elated.
mack - 29 Aug 2008 20:29 GMT
How incredibly shallow (but expected) of you to show your ignorance in
declaring that beautiful women can't have any brains...

have you ever watched a beauty contest?

The entrants' talents lie somewhat south of their craniums usually....not
always, but usually.
Shallow.....moi?
Mark - 29 Aug 2008 20:44 GMT
So you are saying... let me get this right...  that EVERY woman who
does well in a beauty contest is an empty-headed bimbo, is that
correct???

> How incredibly shallow (but expected) of you to show your ignorance in
> declaring that beautiful women can't have any brains...
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> always, but usually.
> Shallow.....moi?
mack - 29 Aug 2008 21:26 GMT
So you are saying... let me get this right...  that EVERY woman who
does well in a beauty contest is an empty-headed bimbo, is that
correct???

No, and if you'd reread my posts, you'd be aware of that.   But on average,
beauty contest winners are not the sharpest knives in the drawer.   While
the smart cookies are studying, they're picking out clothes and plucking
their eyebrows and reading Elle (or looking at the pictures.).
I think even Bert Parks would agree with me that pageant winners are, by and
large, not intellectual types..
Jeff Strickland - 29 Aug 2008 21:28 GMT
So you are saying... let me get this right...  that EVERY woman who
does well in a beauty contest is an empty-headed bimbo, is that
correct???

He is saying that every woman is an empty headed bimbo. Winning a beauty
contest just cements the deal.
mack - 30 Aug 2008 08:01 GMT
> So you are saying... let me get this right...  that EVERY woman who
> does well in a beauty contest is an empty-headed bimbo, is that
> correct???
>
> He is saying that every woman is an empty headed bimbo. Winning a beauty
> contest just cements the deal.

No, I most certainly did not. If you got the idea from my posts, you're very
much in error.  I'm sorry that you seem to have such a low opinion of women,
though.
I thought the residents of San Diego were smarter than that.
Jeff Strickland - 30 Aug 2008 21:23 GMT
>> He is saying that every woman is an empty headed bimbo. Winning a beauty
>> contest just cements the deal.
>
> No, I most certainly did not. If you got the idea from my posts, you're
> very much in error.  I'm sorry that you seem to have such a low opinion of
> women, though.

That's not my opinion of women, it's my impression of your opinion of women.
I hold women in much higher regard than you, even if your opinion is higher
than I think it is.
mack - 31 Aug 2008 00:43 GMT
>>> He is saying that every woman is an empty headed bimbo. Winning a beauty
>>> contest just cements the deal.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> women. I hold women in much higher regard than you, even if your opinion
> is higher than I think it is.

and your impression of my impression is entirely and unequivocally
incorrect.   Is your only exercise jumping to conclusions?
Jeff Strickland - 31 Aug 2008 01:19 GMT
>>>> He is saying that every woman is an empty headed bimbo. Winning a
>>>> beauty contest just cements the deal.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> and your impression of my impression is entirely and unequivocally
> incorrect.   Is your only exercise jumping to conclusions?

No.

Anybody that reads your words comes away thinking you are both racist and
sexist. If you want people to think differently, maybe you should consider
your remarks. Empty headed bimbo is a bad description if you value the
position of women.
larry moe 'n curly - 30 Aug 2008 11:36 GMT
> How incredibly shallow (but expected) of you to show your ignorance in
> declaring that beautiful women can't have any brains...
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> > always, but usually.
> > Shallow.....moi?

> So you are saying... let me get this right...  that EVERY woman who
> does well in a beauty contest is an empty-headed bimbo, is that
> correct???

Maybe he's referring only to the Miss America contest and its
contestants who performed dramatic readings or baton twirling.
Wickeddoll® - 30 Aug 2008 18:11 GMT
"mack...

> "Mark" ...
> How incredibly shallow (but expected) of you to show your ignorance in
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> always, but usually.
> Shallow.....moi?

http://cagle.com/working/080829/fitzsimmons.jpg

Natalie
badgolferman - 29 Aug 2008 18:55 GMT
>I'm elated that McLame has picked Palin as his vice-presidential
>candidate.  If I ever got drunk enough to vote for McShame, I'd think
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>This nomination for v p is the last nail in the old man's coffin.
>It's Obama and Biden for certain!   I'm elated.

Obama's credentials?  After all it's the president who's running, not
the vice-president.

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"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public
office." ~ Aesop

mack - 29 Aug 2008 20:34 GMT
>."

> Obama's credentials?  After all it's the president who's running, not
> the vice-president.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>whose main experience in life has been a mayor of a village...in Alaska.
>That and hitting the runway of a beauty pageant.
Mark A - 29 Aug 2008 19:02 GMT
> I'm elated that McLame has picked Palin as his vice-presidential
> candidate.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> This nomination for v p is the last nail in the old man's coffin.   It's
> Obama and Biden for certain!   I'm elated.

Obama only has less than 4 years experience as a US Senator. No executive
experience. No experience weeding out corruption like Palin.
Mr.E@totally.invalid - 29 Aug 2008 20:05 GMT
>> I'm elated that McLame has picked Palin as his vice-presidential
>> candidate.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>Obama only has less than 4 years experience as a US Senator. No executive
>experience. No experience weeding out corruption like Palin.

Maybe she's been studying under Stevens..
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Mike Dobony - 29 Aug 2008 20:29 GMT
> I'm elated that McLame has picked Palin as his vice-presidential candidate.
> If I ever got drunk enough to vote for McShame, I'd think twice about
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> This nomination for v p is the last nail in the old man's coffin.   It's
> Obama and Biden for certain!   I'm elated.

You would vote for a living bobble-head?  You are as empty headed as he is.
I'm not voting fore either trash candidate.
mack - 29 Aug 2008 21:31 GMT
>> You would vote for a living bobble-head?  You are as empty headed as he
>> is.
> I'm not voting fore either trash candidate.

Are you playing golf ?   "Fore"?   To me the bobble head is McCain, from his
miserable performance at Annapolis, his penchant for wrecking airplanes, his
lack of knowledge about his houses (wait, his w-i-f-e-'s houses) .....He has
ten fingers, can't he count that high?
and his lack of knowledge about the make of car he owns, plus his inability
to tell the difference between shiites and sunnis, and a dozen other
failings.
I'm happy that you've decided to vote for either candidate.   Now you can go
hibernate until Spring.
dbu - 29 Aug 2008 22:56 GMT
> >> You would vote for a living bobble-head?  You are as empty headed as he
> >> is.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I'm happy that you've decided to vote for either candidate.   Now you can go
> hibernate until Spring.

Mack is being very defensive now.  Something causing you to act this way
old timer mack?
--
mack - 30 Aug 2008 08:03 GMT
>> >> You would vote for a living bobble-head?  You are as empty headed as
>> >> he
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Mack is being very defensive now.  Something causing you to act this way
> old timer mack?

Defensive?   How 's that?
Just because you're usually offensive, you think others are defensive?  Old
timer?
Hachiroku ハチロク - 29 Aug 2008 20:44 GMT
> I'm elated that McLame has picked Palin as his vice-presidential candidate.
> If I ever got drunk enough to vote for McShame, I'd think twice about
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> This nomination for v p is the last nail in the old man's coffin.   It's
> Obama and Biden for certain!   I'm elated.

Gee, what exactly are Obama's credentials for being in the Top Spot? A
year and a half of being a Senator?

You guys really are funny.
Jeff - 30 Aug 2008 05:04 GMT
> > I'm elated that McLame has picked Palin as his vice-presidential candidate.
> > If I ever got drunk enough to vote for McShame, I'd think twice about
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> You guys really are funny.

Sen. Obama taught constitutional law for several years (he understands
the Constitution, something Bush doesn't), and he was a Ill. State
Senator for 8 years. He was also president of the Harvard Law Review,
which demonstrates that other lawyers understood that he had a great
understanding of the law.
Scott  in  Florida - 30 Aug 2008 11:19 GMT
>On Aug 29, 3:44 pm, Hachiroku ???? <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote:
>> > I'm elated that McLame has picked Palin as his vice-presidential candidate.
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>which demonstrates that other lawyers understood that he had a great
>understanding of the law.

No, it proves that affirmative action is alive and well.....

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larry moe 'n curly - 30 Aug 2008 11:45 GMT
Scott in Florida wrote:

> >Sen. Obama taught constitutional law for several years (he understands
> >the Constitution, something Bush doesn't), and he was a Ill. State
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> No, it proves that affirmative action is alive and well.....

Barack Obama never took advantage of affirmative action and didn't
even say he was black on his application to Harvard law school.  And
how do you explain him graduating magna cum laude when affirmative
action makes exceptions for applicants but doesn't boost grades?

From what college did you graduate?  If I guess that it wasn't from an
Ivy League school or Cal Tech and that you weren't magna cum laude,
would I be right?
Hachiroku ハチロク - 30 Aug 2008 15:12 GMT
> Scott in Florida wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Ivy League school or Cal Tech and that you weren't magna cum laude,
> would I be right?

Bill Clinton went to Yale and was a Rhodes Scholar, and turned out to be
no more than an Educated Fool.
tak - 30 Aug 2008 17:41 GMT
>> Scott in Florida wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Bill Clinton went to Yale and was a Rhodes Scholar, and turned out to be
> no more than an Educated Fool.

Sort of like "W":
"Bush attended the all-boys school Phillips Academy in Andover,
Massachusetts, where he played baseball and during his senior year was the
head cheerleader.[17][18] Following in his father's footsteps, Bush attended
Yale University, where he received a Bachelor's degree in history in
1968.[19] As a college senior, Bush became a member of the secretive Skull
and Bones society. By his own characterization, he was an average student"
Wikapedia

Although "W" has been a fool, I go so far as  to say educated, in fact,
maybe he is entitled to at least a partial refund from the schools he
attended.
Wickeddoll® - 30 Aug 2008 18:08 GMT
"tak" ...

> "Hachiroku ????"
larry moe 'n curly wrote:

>>> Scott in Florida wrote:
Jeff :

>>>> >Sen. Obama taught constitutional law for several years (he understands
>>>> >the Constitution, something Bush doesn't), and he was a Ill. State
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> maybe he is entitled to at least a partial refund from the schools he
> attended.

LOL - actually Shrub reminds me of a saying from my grandma: "He has some
book sense, but no common sense."

Right on, Grandma.

Natalie
Hachiroku ハチロク - 30 Aug 2008 18:22 GMT
> "tak" ...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
>
> Natalie

Id' say you guys summed it up in a nutshell.
Jeff - 30 Aug 2008 18:35 GMT
On Aug 30, 1:08 pm, "Wickeddoll®"
<wickeddollnofeckingspam1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "tak" ...
>
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
>
> Natalie

Based on his grades, he doesn't have much book sense, either. ;-)
Wickeddoll® - 30 Aug 2008 18:43 GMT
"Jeff"
"Wickeddoll®"
wrote:
> "tak" ...
>
[quoted text clipped - 49 lines]
>
> Natalie

Based on his grades, he doesn't have much book sense, either. ;-)

Jeff

LOL I was trying to be nice, for once.

:-)

Natalie
mack - 31 Aug 2008 00:47 GMT
"Wickeddoll®"  >
> LOL I was trying to be nice, for once.
>
> :-)
>
> Natalie

I can't speak for the veracity of the quote, but it's said that at a dinner
party, Bush, Sr. once told his dinner companion "Jeb's the smart one."
Wickeddoll® - 31 Aug 2008 01:06 GMT
"mack" ...

> "Wickeddoll®"  >
>> LOL I was trying to be nice, for once.
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> dinner party, Bush, Sr. once told his dinner companion "Jeb's the smart
> one."

OK, as a Floridian, I find that very disturbing.

Natalie
SMS - 31 Aug 2008 03:52 GMT
> "mack" ...
>> "Wickeddoll®"  >
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Natalie

I heard the same story. As a native Floridian, still with many friends
and relatives from there, and a graduate of the state's once great
university system, what's disturbing is that the voters elected
Jeb--twice. He did a tremendous amount of damage to Florida during his
two terms as governor. Now Charlie Crist, he actually does seem to be
pretty smart. Occasionally a good Republican somehow makes it through,
like my current governor in California.

Voting Republican is something I rarely can stomach, the vast majority
of them are pathological liars, intent on rewarding their oil company
and big business comrades while destroying the environment as much as
possible. They remind me of the communists in the former Soviet Union,
and the present communist party in China. Yet Arnie is okay. He was
better than the Democratic candidate, something that rarely happens in
the U.S., let alone in California. Then again, Arnie sleeps with a Democrat.
Scott  in  Florida - 31 Aug 2008 04:26 GMT
>Voting Republican is something I rarely can stomach, the vast majority
>of them are pathological liars,

ROFLMAO

I know a LOT of Republicans and not a single one is a pathological
liar.....

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Gary L. Burnore - 31 Aug 2008 06:28 GMT
>>Voting Republican is something I rarely can stomach, the vast majority
>>of them are pathological liars,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>I know a LOT of Republicans and not a single one is a pathological
>liar.....

Bush is a liar.  McSame is a liar. Cheney is a liar. Rove is a liar.
Polin has lied too.  Its on the record.  That's why she's under
investigation.   Of course, since you don't _KNOW_ them, your
statement is safe.
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Scott  in  Florida - 31 Aug 2008 11:52 GMT
>Bush is a liar.

Name one lie.....

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CharlesTheCurmudgeon - 31 Aug 2008 11:49 GMT
>>Voting Republican is something I rarely can stomach, the vast majority
>>of them are pathological liars,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I know a LOT of Republicans and not a single one is a pathological
> liar.....

OTOH, I've known a lot of DemonCraps over the years and a lot of them are
pathological liars.

Jesus probably is still using Bill Clinton's clock for a fan.

Charles the Curmudgeon
Wickeddoll® - 31 Aug 2008 04:52 GMT
"SMS" ...
>> "mack" ...
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> a good Republican somehow makes it through, like my current governor in
> California.

I'm a native too, but have no plans to live there, despite the presence of
my entire family.  We claim Florida as our Air Force home of record (no
state tax!), but when hubby retires, we're going back up to New Hampshire.
My aunt and cousin went to FSU, and seemed to really prosper after
graduating (in the 70s)  As for Crist, he seems to be getting some pretty
nasty skewering in the local media, but I guess that's to be expected.

> Voting Republican is something I rarely can stomach, the vast majority of
> them are pathological liars, intent on rewarding their oil company and big
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> the Democratic candidate, something that rarely happens in the U.S., let
> alone in California. Then again, Arnie sleeps with a Democrat.

I'm so dismayed at the state of politics in this country - all around.

Natalie
SMS - 31 Aug 2008 05:35 GMT
> My aunt and cousin went to FSU,

Boo, hiss.
Wickeddoll® - 31 Aug 2008 05:48 GMT
"SMS" ...

>> My aunt and cousin went to FSU,
>
> Boo, hiss.

*tomahawk chop*

Natalie
Gary L. Burnore - 31 Aug 2008 06:29 GMT
>"SMS" ...
>>> "mack" ...
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>my entire family.  We claim Florida as our Air Force home of record (no
>state tax!)

Typical f.cking republican, avoid taxes.  Let someone else do it.
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SMS - 31 Aug 2008 07:21 GMT
>> "SMS" ...
>>>> "mack" ...
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>
> Typical f.cking republican, avoid taxes.  Let someone else do it.

There is nothing wrong with legally arranging your affairs to pay the
least amount of tax. In most states, if you live there more than a
certain number of months per year then you are considered a resident. I
guess it's different in the military.
Wickeddoll® - 31 Aug 2008 17:40 GMT
"SMS" ...
"Wickeddoll®"
>>>>> "mack" ...
>>>>>>> LOL I was trying to be nice, for once.
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> number of months per year then you are considered a resident. I guess it's
> different in the military.

Just for the record, I'm not a Republican - never have been, probably never
will be. Independent, and plan to stay that way.

In the military, you can claim your home state, a state you've lived in
sometime in your life, or your spouse's home state as your home-of-record.

Obviously, hubby and I claim Florida because I was born and raised there.
You *do* have to have an address in that state, though. We use my mother's.

Hubby is from Massachusetts, and as Hachi can tell you, it's not called
"tax-a-chusetts" for nothing (we're not retiring there, either - we're going
back to New Hampshire, another state tax-free state).  North Carolina (where
we're currently stationed) isn't much better; if we claimed North Carolina,
we'd have to pay over $3,000 a year in state taxes to a place we'll never
live again.

I dare anyone to say they would fork that over, when they could avoid it.
If they say they would, I say they're a damned liar.

Natalie
dbu - 31 Aug 2008 19:51 GMT
> "SMS" ...
>  "Wickeddoll®"
[quoted text clipped - 50 lines]
>
> Natalie

Well why wouldn't you like to pay taxes?
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Hachiroku ハチロク - 30 Aug 2008 18:21 GMT
> Although "W" has been a fool, I go so far as  to say educated, in fact,
> maybe he is entitled to at least a partial refund from the schools he
> attended.

LOL!
Hachiroku ハチロク - 30 Aug 2008 15:10 GMT
>> > I'm elated that McLame has picked Palin as his vice-presidential candidate.
>> > If I ever got drunk enough to vote for McShame, I'd think twice about
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> which demonstrates that other lawyers understood that he had a great
> understanding of the law.

So, we need another lawyer?

The last two didn't work out so well.

Besides, you should be comparing Palin with Biden, which no one is doing.
Why is that, I wonder. Biden pales in comparison?
Jeff - 30 Aug 2008 04:54 GMT
> I'm elated that McLame has picked Palin as his vice-presidential candidate.
> If I ever got drunk enough to vote for McShame, I'd think twice about
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> This nomination for v p is the last nail in the old man's coffin.   It's
> Obama and Biden for certain!   I'm elated.

Gov. Palin doesn't even know what the VP does: “I still can’t answer
that question until somebody answers for me, what is it exactly that
the V.P. does every day?” Ms. Palin told Mr. Kudlow. “I’m used to
being very productive and working real hard.”

What a brilliant pick by Sec. McCain.
mack - 30 Aug 2008 08:10 GMT
On Aug 29, 1:34 pm, "mack" <macke...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> I'm elated that McLame has picked Palin as his vice-presidential
> candidate.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> This nomination for v p is the last nail in the old man's coffin. It's
> Obama and Biden for certain! I'm elated.

Gov. Palin doesn't even know what the VP does: “I still can’t answer
that question until somebody answers for me, what is it exactly that
the V.P. does every day?” Ms. Palin told Mr. Kudlow. “I’m used to
being very productive and working real hard.”

What a brilliant pick by Sec. McCain.

Well, Golllleee, as Gomer used to say.   I hope she works Real Hard and is
Very Productive, and that come November 5, she'll get on the plane back to
the
governor's office in Alaska.
The main thing (other than twenty others) about her that I cannot take is
that voice.  Henry Higgins might say it would shatter glass.   If I were
(ugh) her husband and had to come home to that voice, I'd rather quickly
start thinking about the brake lines in her car, and my tin snips.
Scott  in  Florida - 30 Aug 2008 11:22 GMT
>On Aug 29, 1:34 pm, "mack" <macke...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> I'm elated that McLame has picked Palin as his vice-presidential
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>(ugh) her husband and had to come home to that voice, I'd rather quickly
>start thinking about the brake lines in her car, and my tin snips.

Let's see...they have 5 kids.

It ain't cuttin brake lines that her hubby is thinkin of....

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Scott  in  Florida - 30 Aug 2008 11:21 GMT
>What a brilliant pick by Sec. McCain.

The brilliant pick is....empty suit STUPID Barry.

You guys are on a roll...

Billy Blow Job Klintoon

Al Bore

John 'the traitor' Kerry

Barry

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Jeff Strickland - 31 Aug 2008 00:32 GMT
> I'm elated that McLame has picked Palin as his vice-presidential
> candidate.
> If I ever got drunk enough to vote for McShame, I'd think twice about
> picking a guy who's had a bad cancer (and other?)

Bad cancer? I suppose there is no such thing as good cancer, but on a scale
of 1 to 10, 10 being the worst, McCain's bout with skin cancer is a 1,
twice.

health problems, who's 72
> years of age, who seems to be losing it mentally with many errors which
> could mean early senility, and whose backup is a woman whose only real
> claim to fame is that she was mayor of a town in Alaska which seems to be
> the model for the town in "Northern Exposure".

Mayor of a small town AND the Governor of a state larger (population and
budget) than Delaware. Wait, isn't Biden from Delaware? I guess that doesn't
really matter, as US Senator, he does not concern himself with trivial
matters such as budget and management.

> Oh yeah, I forgot, she's also nailed a full year and a half as the state's
> governor, and was runner up to Miss Alaska in a beauty contest two decades
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> This nomination for v p is the last nail in the old man's coffin.   It's
> Obama and Biden for certain!   I'm elated.

I think you are wrong here. She brings to the ticket precisely the qualities
that McCain needs, and precisely the qualities that Obama lacks.

I'm not convinced she is the best man for the job, so to speak, but she is
clearly not the wrong man for the job. I tend to applaud her qualities as I
know them today, but I know very little about her.
dbu - 31 Aug 2008 00:50 GMT
> > I'm elated that McLame has picked Palin as his vice-presidential
> > candidate.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> of 1 to 10, 10 being the worst, McCain's bout with skin cancer is a 1,
> twice.

Thinking the same, bad cancer, what in hell is wrong with mack?  I
assume he has drank too much again.  Jezzzus mack, old timer, stay away
from the damn bottle will ya.  Get coherent.  

> health problems, who's 72
> > years of age, who seems to be losing it mentally with many errors which
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> clearly not the wrong man for the job. I tend to applaud her qualities as I
> know them today, but I know very little about her.
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