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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / August 2008{OT:} Sarah Palin, Yikes!
Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law fired after he filed for divorce from her sister; Palin is anti-choice, anti- environment; known as "The Wolf Killer" for allowing wolves to be shot from the air; allowed a group to kill 2 adult wolves and 14 pups in their den; wants to allow killing bears from the air. "Just a few moments ago the McCain crowd picked 44-year old Alaskan Governor Sarah Palin as his VP choice. This is the same governor who not only supports but encourages the extermination of Alaska's wolves. She also believes in the slaughter of bears, resists listing polar bears as endangered and does not support the science behind global warming. If that weren't enough she is an outspoken supporter of indicted criminal Ted Stevens and a lifelong member of the NRA. How very Republican she is!" My sympathies, even if it is with a large dose of shadenfreuden. > Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law fired > after he filed for divorce from her sister; Palin is anti-choice, anti- [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > indicted criminal Ted Stevens and a lifelong member of the NRA. How > very Republican she is!" McCain has now reassured the evangelical Christians and right-to-lifers that he's not going to go centrist on them. He needs them if he's going to have any chance at all. Those voters are crucial to McCain, just as they were crucial to W., and they're single-issue voters that don't care about anything else. The environment, the economy, Iraq, Iran, etc are non-issues to these voters. Scary, but true. I often hear people at work, at the store, at my kid’s school, saying things like, “who the hell would actually vote for McCain, no one could be that stupid?” These people are generally people that aren’t totally self-absorbed or self-centered, almost all college educated, middle-class professionals, mostly working in the high technology and the medical fields, mostly Christian, but a few Buddhists, Jews, Hindus and Moslems. These people are totally out of touch with what goes on in the minds of uneducated people that never learned any critical thinking skills; people that listen (and believe) public figures like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, etc, or that get all their “news” from Fox, the Washington Times, or the New York Post. Living in a place like Silicon Valley, they don’t realize just how many of these people there actually are in the U.S.. I explain to them that there are many people that will benefit from a McCain presidency, and many that have specific motives for voting for the Republican ticket. I put together a list of likely McCain voters: -Defense contractor executives, and their employees and stockholders. -Oil company executives, and their employees and stockholders. -Anti-abortion single-issue voters that believe that McCain will appoint enough Supreme Court justices to overturn Roe V. Wade. -Gun-rights single-issue voters that believe that Obama will take away their machine guns. -Racist single-issue voters that just don't like blacks. -High income single-issue voters concerned that incomes over $250K will be taxed more heavily. -Hillary supporters that believe that Hillary can win in 2012 but don't want to wait until 2016. -Individuals that will benefit financially if the country plunged into another depression, by continuing the current economic policies. -Individuals that like foreign military expeditions that involve eliminating people that don't share the same religious beliefs as they do. McCain's challenge is to find enough self-centered, single-issue voters in the toss-up states to win. His problem is that most voters that agree with him on one or more of those issues, are not single issue voters and look at the big picture. No one that is concerned about the overall economic health of the country, about the environment, about health care, about education, about veterans, about foreign policy, could possibly vote for McCain. > > Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law fired > > after he filed for divorce from her sister; Palin is anti-choice, anti- [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > care, about education, about veterans, about foreign policy, could > possibly vote for McCain. Jezus you post some silly sh.t. -- > > > Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law fired > > > after he filed for divorce from her sister; Palin is anti-choice, anti- [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > Jezus you post some silly sh.t. > -- Deeb, Print out the posts and follow along with your finger under the words. >> > Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law fired >> > after he filed for divorce from her sister; Palin is anti-choice, anti- [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > > Jezus you post some silly sh.t. Deeb, does the truth hurt that much? and what category of voters do you fall into? > >> > Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law fired > >> > after he filed for divorce from her sister; Palin is anti-choice, anti- [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] > Deeb, does the truth hurt that much? and what category of voters do you > fall into? I might ask you the same. You seem to be foaming at the mouth now that a woman is on McCains ticket. Look at what you got with obama, an inside the beltway old grey haired career politican who has lost at least two runs for the president. Obama who has years less experience than McCains VP pick. You should take a closer look at the McCain ticket. You and your wife might find something you like. -- >> >> > Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law >> >> > fired [quoted text clipped - 100 lines] > than McCains VP pick. You should take a closer look at the McCain > ticket. You and your wife might find something you like. Deeb, McCain is not Obama's running mate. > >> >> > Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law > >> >> > fired [quoted text clipped - 102 lines] > > Deeb, McCain is not Obama's running mate. VERRRRRY funny truk. I still think you should take up a stage act somewhere, maybe the local bar? -- >>> >> > Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law >>> >> > fired [quoted text clipped - 109 lines] > > Deeb, McCain is not Obama's running mate. He never said Obama was McCain's VP pick. He said that Obama has years less experience than McCain's VP pick. I would suggest that Sarah Palin with her 13+ years in public service, and 3-ish years as governor of Alaska, has more experience in just about everything when compared to Obama. >>>> >> > Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law >>>> >> > fired [quoted text clipped - 116 lines] >3-ish years as governor of Alaska, has more experience in just about >everything when compared to Obama. 2 is not 3-ish, dipshit.  Signaturegburnore at DataBasix dot Com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- How you look depends on where you go. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary L. Burnore | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ . | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ Official .sig, Accept no substitutes. | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ . | ÝÛ 0 1 7 2 3 / Ý³Þ 3 7 4 9 3 0 Û³ Black Helicopter Repair Services, Ltd.| Official Proof of Purchase =========================================================================== > 2 is not 3-ish, dipshit. Yeah, right. Whatever. Still more experience than Obama has. >> 2 is not 3-ish, dipshit. > >Yeah, right. Whatever. Still more experience than Obama has. Hardly, mayor of a small town where she squandered the town funds doesn't count. Or maybe you're counting here time as runner up in a beauty contest? She was FOR the bridge to nowhere until just recently. She admits she knows little about foriegn affairs. ... and then there's troopergate ... Oh, and she took her endoresement of Obama's energy plan off her website but it's still cached at google. OOPS. Signaturegburnore at DataBasix dot Com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- How you look depends on where you go. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary L. Burnore | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ . | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ Official .sig, Accept no substitutes. | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ . | ÝÛ 0 1 7 2 3 / Ý³Þ 3 7 4 9 3 0 Û³ Black Helicopter Repair Services, Ltd.| Official Proof of Purchase =========================================================================== >> 2 is not 3-ish, dipshit. > > Yeah, right. Whatever. Still more experience than Obama has. Somehow I think a long stint in the Illinois legislature trumps mayor of hooterville. And the US Senate is a little more prestigious than a few months as the Gov. of a state with less people than 46 others. But that's just me. >Somehow I think a long stint in the Illinois legislature trumps mayor of >hooterville. ROFLMAO Yes it teaches you to be a crook.... SignatureScott in Florida >>> 2 is not 3-ish, dipshit. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > months as the Gov. of a state with less people than 46 others. But > that's just me. 143 days in the US Senate, divided by 30, makes just over 41/2 months. We do not count the Senate Days he spent campaigning instead of working. Sarah Palin has over 20 months on the job as Governor, where she actually has a budget to balance and departments to manage, unlike the Senate where nothing has to be managed or a budget has to balance.Indeed, Obama seldom even bothered to vote during his 143 days. "Jeff Strickland"... *snip* >>>> 2 is not 3-ish, dipshit. >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > nothing has to be managed or a budget has to balance.Indeed, Obama seldom > even bothered to vote during his 143 days. http://cagle.com/working/080830/cagle00.gif :-D Natalie >>>> >> > Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law >>>> >> > fired [quoted text clipped - 126 lines] > 3-ish years as governor of Alaska, has more experience in just about > everything when compared to Obama. Thanks for again pointing out the obvious. Deeb said Obama's running mate is "an inside the beltway old grey haired career politican who has lost at least two runs for the president." Sounds like McCain to me. You didn't get it, but deeb did. >>>> >> > Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law >>>> >> > fired [quoted text clipped - 126 lines] > 3-ish years as governor of Alaska, has more experience in just about > everything when compared to Obama. Umm, not to nitpick, but her "three-ish" years are in actuality .....20 months. and during that tme she was pregnant and then gave birth to the youngest of her five children. But you got me on one point - she has more experience making babies than Barack has. And I doubt that Barack has ever shot a moose. >And I doubt that Barack has ever >shot a moose. Barry has never done anything useful.... SignatureScott in Florida "dbu" <nospam@nospam.moc> wrote in message news:nospam->> Deeb, does the truth hurt that much? and what category of voters do you >> fall into? > > I might ask you the same. You seem to be foaming at the mouth now that > a woman is on McCains ticket. On the contrary, I've never foamed at the mouth over anything having to do with politics, or anything else for that matter. It is of no concern to me if McCain wants to put the last few nails into his presidential coffin. Look at what you got with obama, an > inside the beltway old grey haired career politican who has lost at > least two runs for the president. Obama who has years less experience > than McCains VP pick. excuse me? Obama has "years less experience than Palin"??? Do you count being the mayor of a town of 6000 folks "experience"? If that's your criterion, then the kid who pumps gas at the corner station and checks your oil could be considered an automotive engineer! and the guy who makes your sandwich at Subway would be called a master chef. You should take a closer look at the McCain > ticket. You and your wife might find something you like. Yeah, just like I might have fun throwing up on a roller coaster, or even better - have another rider throw up on me! As Obama says "thanks...but no thanks" >> > Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law fired >> > after he filed for divorce from her sister; Palin is anti-choice, anti- [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > > Jezus you post some silly sh.t. The silly points being... which ones? The 3rd, 4th, 6th & 7th are pretty self-evident. The 1st & 2nd points are based on what's happened so far in GWB's admin - if this is a more of the same deal. The 5th is all too likely to be true, the 8th is a possibility, & the last - well, look at the last 5 years... Cathy >>> > Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law fired >>> > after he filed for divorce from her sister; Palin is anti-choice, anti- [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] > > Cathy He's projecting Bush's 'qualities' onto McCain, like he was told to do by moveon.org. Fact is, McCain is much different from Bush, as different as Barack is from Hilla...er, let's try that again... >>>> > Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law >>>> > fired [quoted text clipped - 94 lines] > > Fact is, McCain is much different from Bush, Correction: he *used* to be different from Bush. as different as Barack is > from Hilla...er, let's try that again... Exactly. Obama & Hillary have/had basically the same platforms - the only differences are/were in the details. Cathy >>>>> > Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law >>>>> > fired [quoted text clipped - 96 lines] > > Correction: he *used* to be different from Bush. He will always be different from Bush. > as different as Barack is >> from Hilla...er, let's try that again... > > Exactly. Obama & Hillary have/had basically the same platforms - the only > differences are/were in the details. Too bad Barack didn't pick Hillary as VP, instead of Boden. >>>>>> > Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law >>>>>> > fired [quoted text clipped - 129 lines] > > Too bad Barack didn't pick Hillary as VP, instead of Boden. I think I may've liked an Obama/Hillary combo - a very strong ticket which would appeal to many, but... given their apparent personalities, & then add Bill into the mix... it may not have worked as a cohesive unit, no matter how similar their policies would be. Cathy >>>>>>> > Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law >>>>>>> > fired [quoted text clipped - 136 lines] > > Cathy BINGO!!! Bill was the biggest liability Hillary had in her run. His stupidity really shined through, didn't it? ;) (He *DID* say some really dumb things while stumping for his wife.) And Barack would have to deal with the BOTH of them telling him what to do. I'm sure he has his own ideas on how he wants to run the government. On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:45:41 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote: >>>>>>>> > Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law >>>>>>>> > fired [quoted text clipped - 146 lines] >And Barack would have to deal with the BOTH of them telling him what to >do. I'm sure he has his own ideas on how he wants to run the government. I don't think Barry has any idea how to run a government. His owners do and that would be the way it would go. Pretty scary..... SignatureScott in Florida > On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:45:41 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@e86.GTS> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 164 lines] > > Pretty scary..... I seen him on TV attempting to make a comment on McCain's VP pick, he was searching for words, no cue cards, but daddy joe was standing behind him whispering, LOL. -- "Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote in message . > I think I may've liked an Obama/Hillary combo - a very strong ticket which > would appeal to many, but... given their apparent personalities, & then > add Bill into the mix... it may not have worked as a cohesive unit, no > matter how similar their policies would be. > > Cathy I could see the hopelessness of an Obama-Clinton matchup. By next March, Barack would be yelling "Goddamnit, Bill, will you get outta my chair and quit reading my mail?" And with Hillary, after the tenth time in a day that she said "Well, in this case I THINK we gotta...." He'd forget his gentle nature and give her a couple of bitch-slaps. >"Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote in message . >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >this case I THINK we gotta...." He'd forget his gentle nature and give her >a couple of bitch-slaps. Barry's owners would tell him what to do..... SignatureScott in Florida > "Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote in message . >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > this case I THINK we gotta...." He'd forget his gentle nature and give her > a couple of bitch-slaps. LOL! Mack, I think this is the truest thing you have ever said! And probably *EXACTLY* the reason why Hillary was passed up! It's just, I've never seen it put som humourously before. SNL should do a sketch on this... "Hachiroku ???? , mack wrote: >> "Cathy F." wrote in message . >>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > It's just, I've never seen it put som humourously before. SNL should do a > sketch on this... http://www.cagle.com/news/HillaryVP/images/bok.gif http://www.cagle.com/news/DNC08/images/luckovich.gif http://www.cagle.com/news/HillaryVP/images/matson.jpg http://www.cagle.com/news/HillaryVP/images/crowson.jpg http://www.cagle.com/news/HillaryVP/images/powell.gif :-D Natalie > "Hachiroku ???? > , mack wrote: [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Natalie LOL! That pretty much sums it up, doesn't it? >> "Hachiroku ???? >> , mack wrote: [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > LOL! That pretty much sums it up, doesn't it? And I'm sure some of Bill's old Black Ops friends could engineer a 'Ron Brown' type accident and make his wife President again. Charles the Curmudgeon > And I'm sure some of Bill's old Black Ops friends could engineer a 'Ron > Brown' type accident and make his wife President again. > > Charles the Curmudgeon No, he could not. Such a capability never existed, but if it had, it would have been neutralized under my personal orders. > On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:59:37 -0400, Wickeddoll(R) wrote: > > http://www.cagle.com/news/HillaryVP/images/bok.gif > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > LOL! That pretty much sums it up, doesn't it? Unlike President Bush, Senator Obama lacks the sufficient neural atrophy or extra chromosone needed for a successful outcome to such a scenario. Trust me. On Aug 30, 12:59 pm, "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1...@yahoo.com> wrote: > "Hachiroku ???? > [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Exactly how we all thought it would be. > >> > Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law fired > >> > after he filed for divorce from her sister; Palin is anti-choice, anti- [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] > > Cathy The above is silly sh.t. Is GWB running again? News to me. -- >> > Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law fired >> > after he filed for divorce from her sister; Palin is anti-choice, anti- [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > > Jezus you post some silly sh.t. They're scared. On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:33:03 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote: >>> > Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law fired >>> > after he filed for divorce from her sister; Palin is anti-choice, anti- [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > >They're scared. For very good reason..... SignatureScott in Florida >> > Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law fired >> > after he filed for divorce from her sister; Palin is anti-choice, anti- [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > >Jezus you post some silly sh.t. Poor deeb. Run, neocon dupe, run!. Rove picked you a winner! No experience, under investigation, totally f.cking useless. But hey, she's a woman and that's what count's right? So much for McSames claim that ombama isn't ready to lead, eh? Hahahahahahahahahah! This is great! Signaturegburnore at DataBasix dot Com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- How you look depends on where you go. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary L. Burnore | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ . | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ Official .sig, Accept no substitutes. | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ . | ÝÛ 0 1 7 2 3 / Ý³Þ 3 7 4 9 3 0 Û³ Black Helicopter Repair Services, Ltd.| Official Proof of Purchase =========================================================================== >>> > Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law fired >>> > after he filed for divorce from her sister; Palin is anti-choice, anti- [quoted text clipped - 79 lines] > > Hahahahahahahahahah! This is great! She was picked for VP, not President. Small difference there. > > Rove picked you a winner! No experience, under investigation, totally > > f.cking useless. But hey, she's a woman and that's what count's [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > She was picked for VP, not President. Small difference there. Theodore Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson, and Gerald Ford were all Vice-Presidents who had to become Presidents. A vice-presidential nominee must be qualified to be President, and Palin isn't qualified -- yet, especially in national security matters. I doubt she's studied them in any depth, and while she may turn out to be naturally brilliant at them, remember that the last time we had a President who didn't know much about foreign policy, the results were disasterous and caused his administration to be the worst in US history. >Palin isn't qualified That is simply not true. but you knew that..... SignatureScott in Florida >>Palin isn't qualified > > That is simply not true. > > but you knew that..... All Joe Besser is qualified to do is whine. Charles the Curmudgeon >>>Palin isn't qualified >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Charles the Curmudgeon ...and he does it all the time.... SignatureScott in Florida >>>>Palin isn't qualified >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > ...and he does it all the time.... And all Empty Suit Barry is qualified to do is to be the Step'n Fetch It for the Chicago Machine. and people like Jesse, Todd and Emil. Jesse you know, Todd is Stroger, the Presdient of C(r)ook County, Emil is president of the State Senate and like Todd's dad, trying to pass his post along to his son. Face it, in Illinois we don't have politics, we have primogeneture (sic) Charles the Curmudgeon >>Palin isn't qualified > > That is simply not true. > > but you knew that..... She's qualified IF nothing happens to John. If his melanoma gets him, or stroke, heart, etc., then She doesn't seem qualified. >>>Palin isn't qualified >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >She's qualified IF nothing happens to John. If his melanoma gets him, or >stroke, heart, etc., then She doesn't seem qualified. She has run a state.... What has Barry or Biden done? SignatureScott in Florida > >>>Palin isn't qualified > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > - Show quoted text - In one ear and out the other. I bet you have serious reading comprehension problems and really don't understand sentences above 3rd grade construction. You never reply to a post, you just spew. > >>Palin isn't qualified > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > She's qualified IF nothing happens to John. If his melanoma gets him, or > stroke, heart, etc., then She doesn't seem qualified. She's more qualified than your prima donna. -- >> >>Palin isn't qualified >> > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > She's more qualified than your prima donna. Are you able to type that with a straight face? I mean really....... This VP pick is really stretching the repug's ability to throw stuff on the wall and hope it sticks. JM has really stuck it to you guys this time. >>> >>Palin isn't qualified >>> > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >This VP pick is really stretching the repug's ability to throw stuff on the >wall and hope it sticks. JM has really stuck it to you guys this time. Well let's see.... She has run a state....Biden has not She has run a town....Biden has not She has been in charge of the National Guard....Biden has not She has vetoed pork barrel spending....Biden has not She is pretty....Biden is not She is smart.....Biden thinks he is She is not a DC insider....Biden is. Her popularity is over 60%....Biden's is less than 10% SignatureScott in Florida >>>> >>Palin isn't qualified >>>> > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > She has run a state....Biden has not Yeah, his Senate time does not really count for much.... > She has run a town....Biden has not So? > She has been in charge of the National Guard....Biden has not Which disaster did she guide Alaska through since 2006? Give us some more details on her command experience. > She has vetoed pork barrel spending....Biden has not Have to check on that one > She is pretty....Biden is not Silly > She is smart.....Biden thinks he is Silly > She is not a DC insider....Biden is. You think that is going to help her? > Her popularity is over 60%....Biden's is less than 10% And that makes her qualified in what way? > This VP pick is really stretching the repug's ability to throw stuff on the > wall and hope it sticks. JM has really stuck it to you guys this time. It was really amusing to see the talking heads from the Republican party try to explain why Palin would be able to take over if something happened to McCain. Everyone was startled by this choice, and they are trying to put a brave face on it for the public, while shaking their heads in disbelief in private. >> This VP pick is really stretching the repug's ability to throw stuff on the >> wall and hope it sticks. JM has really stuck it to you guys this time. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >trying to put a brave face on it for the public, while shaking their >heads in disbelief in private. Oh? You Dims seem to be pretty upset about it. We are not. It is a good call. Mission Accomplished! SignatureScott in Florida >>> This VP pick is really stretching the repug's ability to throw stuff on >>> the [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Mission Accomplished! That is laughing that you hear. Keep up the brave face. Scott in Florida wrote: > >> This VP pick is really stretching the repug's ability to throw stuff on the > >> wall and hope it sticks. JM has really stuck it to you guys this time. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Mission Accomplished! I told you and George not to use that slogan any more. I'm not leaving in January. Yesterday was John McCain's 72nd birthday. If elected, he'd be the oldest president ever inaugurated. And after months of slamming Barack Obama for "inexperience," here's who John McCain has chosen to be one heartbeat away from the presidency: a right-wing religious conservative with no foreign policy experience, who until recently was mayor of a town of 9,000 people. Huh? Who is Sarah Palin? Here's some basic background: She was elected Alaska 's governor a little over a year and a half ago. Her previous office was mayor of Wasilla, a small town outside Anchorage. She has no foreign policy experience.1 Palin is strongly anti-choice, opposing abortion even in the case of rape or incest.2 She supported right-wing extremist Pat Buchanan for president in 2000. 3 Palin thinks creationism should be taught in public schools.4 She's doesn't think humans are the cause of climate change.5 She's solidly in line with John McCain's "Big Oil first" energy policy. She's pushed hard for more oil drilling and says renewables won't be ready for years. She also sued the Bush administration for listing polar bears as an endangered species—she was worried it would interfere with more oil drilling in Alaska.6 How closely did John McCain vet this choice? He met Sarah Palin once at a meeting. They spoke a second time, last Sunday, when he called her about being vice-president. Then he offered her the position.7 This is information the American people need to see. Please take a moment to forward this email to your friends and family. We also asked Alaska MoveOn members what the rest of us should know about their governor. The response was striking. Here's a sample: She is really just a mayor from a small town outside Anchorage who has been a governor for only 1.5 years, and has ZERO national and international experience. I shudder to think that she could be the person taking that 3AM call on the White House hotline, and the one who could potentially be charged with leading the US in the volatile international scene that exists today. —Rose M., Fairbanks, AK She is VERY, VERY conservative, and far from perfect. She's a hunter and fisherwoman, but votes against the environment again and again. She ran on ethics reform, but is currently under investigation for several charges involving hiring and firing of state officials. She has NO experience beyond Alaska. —Christine B., Denali Park, AK As an Alaskan and a feminist, I am beyond words at this announcement. Palin is not a feminist, and she is not the reformer she claims to be. —Karen L., Anchorage, AK Alaskans, collectively, are just as stunned as the rest of the nation. She is doing well running our State, but is totally inexperienced on the national level, and very much unequipped to run the nation, if it came to that. She is as far right as one can get, which has already been communicated on the news. In our office of thirty employees (dems, republicans, and nonpartisans), not one person feels she is ready for the V.P. position.—Sherry C., Anchorage, AK She's vehemently anti-choice and doesn't care about protecting our natural resources, even though she has worked as a fisherman. McCain chose her to pick up the Hillary voters, but Palin is no Hillary. — Marina L., Juneau, AK I think she's far too inexperienced to be in this position. I'm all for a woman in the White House, but not one who hasn't done anything to deserve it. There are far many other women who have worked their way up and have much more experience that would have been better choices. This is a patronizing decision on John McCain's part- and insulting to females everywhere that he would assume he'll get our vote by putting "A Woman" in that position.—Jennifer M., Anchorage, AK So Governor Palin is a staunch anti-choice religious conservative. She's a global warming denier who shares John McCain's commitment to Big Oil. And she's dramatically inexperienced. In picking Sarah Palin, John McCain has made the religious right very happy. And he's made a very dangerous decision for our country. In the next few days, many Americans will be wondering what McCain's vice-presidential choice means. Please pass this information along to your friends and family. Thanks for all you do. –Ilyse, Noah, Justin, Karin and the rest of the team Sources: 1. "Sarah Palin," Wikipedia, Accessed August 29, 2008 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin 2. "McCain Selects Anti-Choice Sarah Palin as Running Mate," NARAL Pro- Choice America, August 29, 2008 http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17515&id=13661-6443456-olSjSpx&t=1 3. "Sarah Palin, Buchananite," The Nation, August 29, 2008 http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17736&id=13661-6443456-olSjSpx&t=2 4. "'Creation science' enters the race," Anchorage Daily News, October 27, 2006 http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17737&id=13661-6443456-olSjSpx&t=3 5. "Palin buys climate denial PR spin—ignores science," Huffington Post, August 29, 2008 http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17517&id=13661-6443456-olSjSpx&t=4 6. "McCain VP Pick Completes Shift to Bush Energy Policy," Sierra Club, August 29, 2008 http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17518&id=13661-6443456-olSjSpx&t=5 "Choice of Palin Promises Failed Energy Policies of the Past," League of Conservation Voters, August 29, 2008 http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17519&id=13661-6443456-olSjSpx&t=6 "Protecting polar bears gets in way of drilling for oil, says governor," The Times of London, May 23, 2008 http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17520&id=13661-6443456-olSjSpx&t=7 7 "McCain met Palin once before yesterday," MSNBC, August 29, 2008 http://www.moveon.org/r?r=21119&id=13661-6443456-olSjSpx&t=8 > In picking Sarah Palin, John McCain has made the religious right very > happy. And he's made a very dangerous decision for our country. That's it in a nutshell. Palin was actually a very logical choice. The Hillary voters were not going to vote for McCain under any circumstances, while the religious right would turn against McCain if he selected a vp that was pro-choice, believed in evolution, etc.. It's disgusting how the religious right has hijacked the Republican party, but the Republican party has allowed itself to be hijacked. I saw Ben Stein on Larry King the other night, pimping for McCain. Stein's latest schtick is pimping for the horribly misnamed "Intelligent Design" people. People choose their candidate based on who's at the top of the ticket. The vice-presidential candidate only comes into consideration as a reason _not_ to vote for someone, i.e. if he or she is exceptionally unqualified to be president, or if their positions are exceptionally abhorrent. Even then it's only a big concern if the presidential candidate might not finish their term due to poor health or old age, In today's newspaper (San Jose Mercury) they had interviews with a lot of female voters. Nearly all of them said that the choice of Palin would not get them to vote for McCain, while one woman that was planning to vote for McCain said that the choice of Palin had made her change her mind and now she was voting for Obama. But who knows. Maybe McCain can turn this thing around. Voters elected Bush twice, so anything is possible. > > In picking Sarah Palin, John McCain has made the religious right very > > happy. And he's made a very dangerous decision for our country. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > But who knows. Maybe McCain can turn this thing around. Voters elected > Bush twice, so anything is possible. Turn it around? The race has been basically within margin of error and we're not even into Sept yet. Frankly I'm quite surprised that biden and his VP running mate have not taken on a 10 or more point lead by this time. -- >In today's newspaper (San Jose Mercury) they had interviews with a lot >of female voters. Nearly all of them said that the choice of Palin would >not get them to vote for McCain, LOL In the middle of Moon Bat country, women are asked.... Okkkkkk SignatureScott in Florida Scott in Florida wrote: > >In today's newspaper (San Jose Mercury) they had interviews with a lot > >of female voters. Nearly all of them said that the choice of Palin would [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Scott in Florida Women don't count. They don't cook, clean, or put out, either. Did you write all that bullshit yourself? Wow. In article <4f0f983f-92b8-4a10-8660-381cd3038c2e@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, > Yesterday was John McCain's 72nd birthday. If elected, he'd be the > oldest president ever inaugurated. And after months of slamming Barack [quoted text clipped - 122 lines] > 7 "McCain met Palin once before yesterday," MSNBC, August 29, 2008 > http://www.moveon.org/r?r=21119&id=13661-6443456-olSjSpx&t=8 -- Fear is in the air, fear is in the air, (sung to the song: Love is in The Air), fear is in the air..........whooow-wowwooww ,,,oh, oh, oh, oh.......f-e-a-r i-s i-n t-h-e a-i-r.........mmmmmmm, mmmmmm.......!! In article <4f0f983f-92b8-4a10-8660-381cd3038c2e@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, > Yesterday was John McCain's 72nd birthday. If elected, he'd be the > oldest president ever inaugurated. And after months of slamming Barack [quoted text clipped - 122 lines] > 7 "McCain met Palin once before yesterday," MSNBC, August 29, 2008 > http://www.moveon.org/r?r=21119&id=13661-6443456-olSjSpx&t=8 -- > Fear is in the air, fear is in the air, (sung to the song: Love is in > The Air), fear is in the air..........whooow-wowwooww ,,,oh, oh, oh, > oh.......f-e-a-r i-s i-n t-h-e a-i-r.........mmmmmmm, mmmmmm.......!! True, but try to keep up your brave face, deeb. > > Fear is in the air, fear is in the air, (sung to the song: Love is in > > The Air), fear is in the air..........whooow-wowwooww ,,,oh, oh, oh, > > oh.......f-e-a-r i-s i-n t-h-e a-i-r.........mmmmmmm, mmmmmm.......!! > > True, but try to keep up your brave face, deeb. You guys and gals are in fear country. -- >> > Fear is in the air, fear is in the air, (sung to the song: Love is in >> > The Air), fear is in the air..........whooow-wowwooww ,,,oh, oh, oh, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > You guys and gals are in fear country. Oh, it is Democrats you think are in fear? You must not have heard about McCain's VP pick: http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/13001 > >> > Fear is in the air, fear is in the air, (sung to the song: Love is in > >> > The Air), fear is in the air..........whooow-wowwooww ,,,oh, oh, oh, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/13001 Man you need get your sources cleaned up. They are like trash. -- >> >> > Fear is in the air, fear is in the air, (sung to the song: Love is >> >> > in [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Man you need get your sources cleaned up. They are like trash. Yeah, those presidential scholars probably don't know what they are talking about. I think I will rely on you and Scott for my info.......ROFL! >> > Rove picked you a winner! No experience, under investigation, totally >> > f.cking useless. But hey, she's a woman and that's what count's [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > didn't know much about foreign policy, the results were disasterous > and caused his administration to be the worst in US history. You mean Bill Clinton? Yeah, that was pretty bad. I think she'll do just fine. >> Hachiroku ???? wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > I think she'll do just fine. He was pretty specific, Hachi, "THE WORST". That takes us right to GWB. "46th best president so far" Bill Maher >>> Hachiroku ???? wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > He was pretty specific, Hachi, "THE WORST". That takes us right to GWB. > "46th best president so far" Bill Maher Dude, I think it's a tie... >>>> Hachiroku ???? wrote: >>>> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Dude, I think it's a tie... People don't realize that Bill sold us out to his friends in foreign countries, the Chinese Communists (think when we started importing all those Chinese goods?) and the radical Islamics (think when Political Correctness took hold of this country.) and of course, all her queer friends like the now-President of the U of Florida Donna Shitlayer. Although things were relatively quiet on the surface, there was a lot of stuff going on we weren't privy to. Charles the Curmudgeon. >>>>> Hachiroku ???? wrote: >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > relatively quiet on the surface, there was a lot of stuff going on we > weren't privy to. Yes, we do realize that. Or at least, some do. > Charles the Curmudgeon. >>>>> Hachiroku ???? wrote: >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Charles the Curmudgeon. Shitlayer? Please tell me that is poetic license ... >>>>>> Hachiroku ???? wrote: >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Shitlayer? Please tell me that is poetic license ... I can never remember how to spell Donna Shitlayer's right name anyway. But I dishonor her by not calling her by her right name, also. It's an old family tradition. Like calling Dougie Joe No Bedroom or LarryMoe&Curly Joe Besser. Charles the Curmudgeon > People don't realize that Bill sold us out to his friends in foreign > countries, the Chinese Communists (think when we started importing all those [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Charles the Curmudgeon. Not that we don't appreciate your efforts, but you'd be of far more use to us if you'd start rooting for the other side. > Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Theodore Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson, and Gerald Ford were > all Vice-Presidents who had to become Presidents. A vice-presidential ***Lets give Calvin Cooledge his due ;-) > nominee must be qualified to be President, and Palin isn't qualified > -- yet, especially in national security matters. I doubt she's > studied them in any depth, and while she may turn out to be naturally > brilliant at them, remember that the last time we had a President who > didn't know much about foreign policy, the results were disasterous > and caused his administration to be the worst in US history. >> Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law fired >> after he filed for divorce from her sister; Palin is anti-choice, anti- [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > education, about veterans, about foreign policy, could possibly vote for > McCain. Thank you SMS, for the wide-ranging and accurate assessment of these misguided and benighted voters. Every word of what you've said is true, though the cretins on the newsgroup will call you several kinds of a 'dim' fool. But you've nailed it, my friend! The thing about the Republican voters and their handlers that I've never understood is their constant cry of "But the Dems will raise your taxes!!" Well, perhaps, and perhaps not. And if they DO, what amount of money will be added to the tax bill? $100, $300? More? With this shortsighted view, one wonders how the federal government is supposed to fund the restoration and improvements to our infrastructure? If any of the pinch-penny voters who voted against tax increases ever found themselves on a bridge that was in the process of collapsing, or on a train whose rails parted and they found themselves scraping along the roadbed on their side, or in an airliner which had lost contact with flight controllers, they'd sing another tune, and quickly. And if we don't have some tax increases, how will the American treasury ever pay off the Chinese for funding Bush's war(s)? If you want to repaint and repair your house because it's getting shabby and may fall into the ground, do you crab about the cost of lumber, paint and nails? No, you suck it up and pay it. <edspyhill01@yahoo.com> ... > Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law fired > after he filed for divorce from her sister; Palin is anti-choice, anti- [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > My sympathies, even if it is with a large dose of shadenfreuden. http://cagle.com/working/080829/cagle00.gif Natalie > <edspyhill01@yahoo.com> ... >> Sarah Palin is under investigation for having her brother-in-law fired [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Natalie Must be thanking her... |
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